Sports Thread

[Ale]

since Real is putting this down and favorable safely, maybe few words about situation before last 3 rounds - all over in 2 weeks from now ; but not for us ;;... about eventual socalled "circles" i have no idea how it works and might be unfavorable if more than 3 involved, but in any way not the time nor need... this result reminded me that Fener is also far, far from sure as it has really tough (on paper) last 3 - Baskonia, Efes, Stella away, don't see much room for "letting them" by those 3 teams, except maybe Efes if they calculate to let Turks patriotically, becuse they are finished ...other interesting thing in such calculation is that indeed Žalgiris has a lot to play for and potentially jump over 3 teams (but us hardly), so yes, yes there is chance and do play for it, dear "hot ones", even when sitting ...far from over, have no idea why i think this is best finish in decade for that spots. already seen Fener as "safe" after they beat us, far from... Baskonia-Fener real derby now in two days... leaning towards risking with them and us on friday and enjoy. Prefer to make things safe before the last round, because shocks are usual in last rounds and it goes wrong way sometimes, just remember fight for titles in football leagues... word on Maccabi, strong run I see Milano falling, but after that 2 toughs also... i count on old frinedship with Real (and deal I mentioned)) but it can be we to play against Monaco for F4 after all, suddenly our opponents look more relaxed than some other have ; ...Monaco is not nobody but we had shown that we can do them... not really important but of course why not reminding that all 4 are not "safe", luckily only 1-2 threaten. nice finish, satisfaction in sport sense and we did our job with both taking part and winning...

as i said haven't even followed that much for almost decade, noticed that EL is there only in 2018 and last year, but this one is best, don't know why again... maybe some game now and then, without even noticing referees - in that sense even Ana Panther (better then Tiger) is also new thing for me and love to see hear shine and do arenas, GOAT. She's cute another picture, really haven't seen her before, so out of fun, and finish this intermezzo. Judging last night was indeed "smelly" only during few minutes, maybe we deserved some extra points etc. but not crucial for outcome as Vesely was merciless, but Ana was far in every situation.... do put house on us and Basks but do join with your story before...

[Ale]

if my sources are true - maybe not and it is just some flash news - PSV was fined around 30000 euros for pitch invasion and attack on our goalkeeper (for Seville) "serious one", Eintracht some 70000 euros, "French side Nantes were fined a total of €66 125 for fans lighting fireworks, throwing objects, offensive messages and a pitch invasion" etc. while Partizan is fined over 120000 euros (if flash true) for some offences while 22000 only for "blocking passages" (usual UEFA term and punishment) which is also in Frankfurt etc. "bill" .... all fair ...must say did not even watch the game against Sheriff in preparation for basketball game against Fener that was right after it - so really has not idea if there was any pyro, how much, throwing and (quasi) racist chants (used by musician Bregović in Europe)) so maybe guilty as devils from hell, can't comment but personally funny as always, considering that only few thousands watched game against Sheriff, was ghostly empty and funny considering that nothing close to attack on player was done by fans... but gop on UEFA just punish the giants ...not to mention that players get minor disciplinary "punches" for aggression, while fans are banned for life ; not to mention who own the clubs etc ...world we live in, why not mentioning even if unimportant and we are out of football competition for this year.... even Stella wants money from us for some local derby i agree we to support academic fans and professors that usually watch their game ...as i said maybe my "flash news" not even true - UEFA never fined us before, so maybe fake ))

anyway, this was funny only in volumes (if true) and of course i haven't even watched and it is nothing for our giant, while in (tonight) 32 games in EL most populated Arena on continent had no troubles... really some excitment for tonight for 3-4 games and hope for fun evening. But i wanted to say that - while i'll do with some symbolic amounts - that of course, for any idiots, both our game with Real (goes naturally as this is first run in decade) and also Baskonia-Fener game is very tough call, tough games in advance... only for fun if some thinks about them... Fener is maybe without few importants so bookies put thigs like that, but important game for them and with eventual win they also help Efes etc. I "believe" in us and sis Baskonia (one of few arenas where our flag is there whole season) and only for fun, but again 2 very tough games... if they turn out easy, doesn't matter and we both happy of course ...see you probably later with some humorous comment of great basket friday...

[Ale]

...on the other hand, you can put house on us & Basks two records in season against Real - most points, 40, in quarter and "personal best" of 104 points in any game, regular time, EL of course... 104:90 finish and playoffs now secured. Real players faked very good how they care esp. Edi/Willy/Walter Tavares ; for Oscars - as it was fixed game )

really beautiful results everywhere from that standpoint, nice evening... our not so exciting, nor Baskonia, but both fights and some passion - never seen coach Penarroya of Basks having such reactions although probably passionate as always.. Baskonia game was "heroics" as it looked like "one of those games" i criticized them for ; but great turnaround and glad for them esp. since it was our player that scored incredible 35 for them so definitely some "star alignment" & bravo sister... of course, sorry for Fener (club that mimiced us while absent) but pocket is pocket so i chose their game to talk more, our wasn't so interesting but had some moments and actually something fresh in arena till now - referee signor Paternico from Italy gave "red card"/technical foul and expulsion from the arena to one fan in first row (and he left not asking for money)) don't know why, probably with reason and some "verbal delict", signor Paternico judged us many and we mostly won every time and we don't care in such nice night - but hey, something new and really unusual for us, thumbs up for that entertaiment addition ; wanted to present Baskonia "heroic" reportage - as always videos only after midnight sadly - we are safe now but possible for number 5, but most likely i'm over till playoffs ;

[Dimitris GR]

I don't really like, but i respect him:

Jose Mourinho Stops Racist Chants Targeting Sampdoria manager Dejan Stankovic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFJaTbF0pvQ

[Ale]

honestly, don't see "racism" in there... due to non existing "race" difference, but anyway interesting story....

well let's comment even though i said i won't, but i already commented so much so why not last rounds ...finally one interesting, (quasi) "dramatic" game since Fener in arena, 84:88 win in Monaco it turned out interesting finish and last minute decider with one incredible 3 by Punter and free throws finale, but it shouldn't have been as in one moment we had +15 in front of "shocked" Monte Carlo and Mike James (most "exotic player in Monaco and one of top scorers) who went into some heated argument with own coach, was fun ...mentioning James some reported how he had "message" for our fans, who laughed at him after scoring only 9 points in Arena and he said "you will see tonight"! Yep, he scored 10 tonight was fun and why basket is so interesting sometimes, already talked about our only "EL" title 30 years ago with last second 3 or game yesterday with Žalgiris-Maccabi decided by half-point and when some almost fell unconcios in Kaunas in last seconds when Baldwin jumped and shot in last second ...something rare in other sports mostly, but basket is too fast... fun evening, even Đolo of tenis watched being Stella fan himself AND playoffs now secured - yeah i said that few times but was obviously right... ;

wanted to laugh also at some domestic people who constantly waste money playing against Partizan, maybe out of envy ; while i could profit greately by investing in Party, so for them my posts were very usable and leading in right direction so i symbolically always had us or a lot of points, never against ; ... but unimportant even I did not trust much back in november/december but also said in december "season turnaround", was true Incredible scoring, form and how else with one of greatest coaches in history, thanks for accepting job mister Big ...great season and still far from finish - maybe even aginst Monaco but both Maccabi and Fener need to lose for that 5th place and honestly i maybe see Maccabi winning against Real... again too bad, we could have been among top 4, arena advantage etc. (

finally, that "magical number" 88, if you noticed - scored it many times recently esp. in away games, interesting... enetering last round as second most efficient team (after sis Baskonia) - who realistically expected that? ...mentioning Baskonia - tough game in last round they must win, Oly away, good luck but maybe Žalgiris make it...... finally 2 nice derby in Stambol yesterday, Fener (expected) win and Ataman lost his thin nerve leaving arena minute before the end and even alsmost fight after - but as i've said Efes did let other Turks to advance ....... ...great season so i covered it minimalistically ) bravo all.

[Ale]

...also to add - considering that Greece & Italy had some "uneasy" past since Roman times and mutual "racism" but also French & Italinas had it (about STDs and similar)) or yes, Italian fascists did have rough words against Serbs and attacked our schools in Trieste in 30s, but Ciano liked us and Italian royal army saved our med monuments on Kosovo etc. etc. And many others.... i always put it in humoristic way or better said "talking without hair on tongue" so for Dimitris or any reader - I could never be offended by Italians maybe some "blonder nation" (even Slavic) can be offensive but no, not Italians so dark ...pardon, but for some having problems with Italians not to misunderstand my comment - never could be offended by them ; not related to that but generally speaking, don't see them as "something" even in Milano ...well, about Gypsies (Romans) it is on them to decide what they consider racism ; that's btw.

anyway, here's video since i posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ePHYG_7kA&t=1s

...we can always laugh at Mike James, but unlike some in EL or NBA he can realistically stop when he sees that "it is not going" in shooting - he shot & missed only 2 times for 3 for example... there are some who can force it and "rape shot" constantly and have 1 of 10 and similar and do not stop.... but Mike is "exotica" and fun minute in which his coach "exploded" if you watched prove that.... btw.

[Ale]

...or to pre-formulate or reformulate (in English probably) better said it is not "on them to decide what is racism" to actually it is on society to decide what is racism i.e. on objective norms.... saying as not to start some thought about victim/target deciding what is racism. It should be discrimination based on skin color and other physicalities as main definition... not to add to controversies is dislike of some religion (islam or christianity, if you dislike, maybe buddhism) "racism", as it is not... not to get into situation to label any tension "racism" as it might be in Kurdistan, English-Scotish, Basque or whatever as "races are different there" ...about Gypsies i.e. Romas, they should speak freely about where are they discriminated, of course and where they don't have equal rights etc.

anyway, not the place in this thread but you know me and i could add a book or long TV show on every subject. But subject is great even by small mention in one word by him... already talked about even (false) theory that our emperor (i'm fan) played role in Gypsy/Roma migrations by one obsolete German historian, other theories are that they came only after Ottoman empire spread, but unimportant... Italy and Italians as well, already said great inspiration and subject. Maybe they aim that we created Rome and some not to think how they were not also threated bad, mostly in US - some say that greatest single "lynch" in US was on Italians and there were jokes about "Italians are not white" etc. so they were victims as well.... and so on.

to add - some line was about "World Gypsy/Roma day" today - so I wish all the best to Stella fans! ....of course just joking and they are known as "delajlas i.e. delilahs" which is Turkish word for "nice girls" ; (mentioned by Tom Jones) ...just we are dark as deepest graves ; ...really our nicks were more about colors than skins and as we were very dark, they were colorul, happy hence nick initially, some maybe misuse today.... anyway, also to any eventual readers of that group, my posts are usually informative if not scientific thanks for small but huge subject Dimitris and end of intermezzo... see you with basket finish - simply wanted to add and not to use other thread, while subject is again big and have many historical short notes etc. have fun

[Ale]

...we will all agree that sport fan subculture is/was very sport subject and something traditionally spoken about. so in that sense, more as socio-historical subject not popularization, this is that once famous wall-painting of Al in center of Belgrade... to eventual Italian readers to add that - I don't follow any more - supporter subgroup seemingly dissolved or "toned down" (Alcatraz) and his flags are not present... almost "sadly" as it was iconic and sounding name and iconography, even without any criminal element is "fun" and recognizable, should have survived just as iconography as it is not "racist, nor directly political" to anyone... interesting is that thing, sociologically again, of some "Robin Hood" quasi-reflection about Al in many esp. if we "knowledgeable" add histoical details about anti-Italian sentiment in times etc. Anyway, more to add as info, seems like "Alcatraz" is not so present anymore...

also to Italians, or any reader also, everyone should know that views are often created as followings of some (often changed) situation... Italian fascist are (in good part) very, very good example in short "fixation" on Serbs (although not important nor something through centuries)... more example of "broken hearth" ; Namely, D'Annunzio wrote arguably one of more informed or better "epics" about our history, showing incredible knowledge to details and even names of figures (although wrongly writen, looked original) but also names of Belgrade hills and such, incredible... he wasn't fascist in pure sense, but some connect him and nationalism. but maybe many younger natinalists then shared his views in Italy, something not the case in Vienna of time, for example... however later "hero becomes negative fixation" countless such examples probably only on continent etc. etc. not to mention that one of possible directions of "masonic penetration" was Italy, Garibaldi sent his men personally here & later. not to mention "black hand" (because we are black since middle ages or antic times) iconography they copied from us in America As i said many times great subject, but expected if we consider that Servius started it all many centuria BC ...important country (or region then) for us as well, as maybe most foreigners in our lands, during medieval "glory" (which created deeper identity) were Italians etc. just often unknown history ...not the place but simply do not want to post that I talked before in "historic notes" thread, again take it as post about info on "Alcatraz" ; have fun, join with some story you find interesting and of course house on us, relax in pub

[Ale]

...so we can calculate now and choose betwixt Barsa or Real, if we decide to lose to Pao as Maccabi "grabbed" Monaco, all as i predicted ; ...don't know, tough choice and most likely it creates circle of 3 teams and i still don't know how it works as for example we are better to Žalgiris but Fener to us and Žalg to them so it is complicated... most likely win then will be and we go to number 3... if Barca win then it is Real - good old pal, don't forget the deal, you let us to f4 this year ;

Baskonia, sis, you tried your best - 35 for 3 with 10 in ) of course there is still chance, Bayern is your chance... see you in playoffs if something interesting happens if not covering ends here... most likely Real if Barcelona also don't want to calculate and play with us

[Ale]

....first time in history - i think first time but unimportant - we were given 2 places in quals for CL and we have one of worst seasons and want be even 4th so no conference league even imagine. already third coach this season but it is not about coach, although important factor... sadly we do not have even coaches anymore, once club that gave some famous names in Spain, Mexico as far etc. Not to mention players p.... strongly recommend to look at only goal of the match it is on approx. 1:40 if yoy want to skip... funny goalkeeper positioning (and mistakes) are present everywhere but really think such cheap goals are now rarely seen even in English 5.-6. divisions ...and we want to play Barsa, Real, MU or Bayern... talking about that it is club that is currently on second spot leading to CL - which they'll hardly reach but good luck to them - it is famous Čukarički (Chooka-richkee)) very famous internationally and deserves to play some of mentioned clubs above ) ...talking about that what you all think if you look at video - is the stadium proper for hosting Bayern or Barsa?

but really not against them, more about us in situation when 2 CL spots were given... of course popular Čukarički i.e. Choo'kaa is older club that Party and Stella and is (quasi) private and deserves to be there, respect for being better but do look at video for some laugh... mentioning Stella, they are of course the best, sensational, invincible and first, Bayern in fear ; but Chooka now 8 points infront... we will be overrun by Vodovodina as well till the end of season and not even in Confederate league ; ...good luck to our smaller teams and admit that we are first big club that fairly threats smaller and give "our places" sportingly fairly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ash8x2YCKa8

doesn't matter, in basket we are elite and in thuesday start playoffs with Real... won't follow probably here, depends how i feel, but now you understand why basket elite was refreshment for us Party fans and how sport giants disappear ...as said, only if series with Real get interesting and other playoff matches... season more than success, even continental leaders... but Chookaa is worth to look at as video for fun, recommend for laugh... now where is that PSV fan-guy from Neverlands beating Serbian football goalmans - think we need him here!! ...but really unimportant as said as we are in crisis for long, before Sheriff even so deservedly ; of course tell us what you think about all that events... i'm buying new computer so looking at best deals these days, btw

[Parabellum]

...talking about that what you all think if you look at video - is the stadium proper for hosting Bayern or Barsa? ...

OK, I watched the video. I think that Barcelona or Munich will lose here - they are not used to play in front of so many spectators ... ... in our country this kind of thing is called "ghost games".

[Ale]

reason for so few spectators is punishment by domestic FA (everybody punish us for being awful) on our club and them, so only family members were allowed or maybe some of their good fans... but no, not our monsters. so nobody there to watch spectacular CL spot clash ...usually Chookaa's games are crowded of course by famous ultras, even Gabriele sang about their "Brdo" in his epics........

anyway, win in game one against Real in Madrid in magnificent way - 30 years after many things changed, players, arena, skin colors and nationalities ; but same coach and last second 3s remain our trade-mark in big wins Punter as true captain, bravo...of course I'll repeat exactly what he and coach said after game "...only first game." but we already see that as huge step towards F4 Real has a lot of chance to come back, of course and must be said that Edy/Willy/Walter Tavares picked up some injury (just like in script Edy)) in first half so Real weakened later, but we were in lead even before... nonetheless, true playoffs game and even better than usual atmosphere in Madrid (which is football city first after all)... for us starts to look like time when Denmark took our spot on EC 30 years ago ; but of course Real will come back for more and only first one... incredible considering start of season, but even 6 months ago I said we believe in them ...no idea why Punter was never called for our national team ) but - while NBA experts will disagree saying that they have tons of likes - but he deserves to play in NBA and back home ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8hJ96VnWE&t=173s

side note - no idea what is it with American officials in EL, commentators, reporters etc etc even UEFA wanting to play CL (for example Chooka)) games in America... I thought first choice is Brunei?! ...i missed a lot of history lately, past 70 years - are we annexing America? ...maybe it is some deal them to supply us with blondes, well in that case.... ...only first, of course it will not be 3:0 to anyone

[Ale]

but yes, for American blond (kiss)) readers (for exanple) Para is generally right, our smaller clubs do not gather enough interest in local communities unlike in many countries and is phenomenon i also like him always wondered why... Chookaa is not problem because it is from city with huge clubs but i wonder why not it in cities over 100000, for example. Maybe football is not loved after all ;

anyway, Edy will play, Edy-ready they say... we are still discussing his phenomenal blockade (seen in reportage i presented) all over the hand of our center but doesn't matter, referees did nice job generally. Edy's presence is welcome and iconic on field... as for the game in few hours, everybody expects Real win, logical to avoid eventual disaster in 3, it is matter of reputation. I expect it as well but played "a lot" of points in combo with some Eng and Spain football ...will not comment nor post video from this game - if we win it is only second game, hehe if Real as all expect win, nothing, see you next week with video ;

anyway 2 you know me and since me myself mentioned few times, not sport topic per se but why not reminding younger and older... for us totally lost importance as subject we are thinking only Uranus and future, mere historical subject and as I noticed in conversation that it is all mixed...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... lution_757

so UN Sec council resolution which ordered total sanctions on de facto Serbia then... when (not to mix dates anymore) how and how big. "all economic activity, communication, even cutural, flights" etc etc sport, so individual athletes were allowed into Barcelona... as said for history and where is actual now, i repeat i do not compare death of country with neighbour wars, invasions etc. but Serbia was penalized in harsh way and economy collapsed, sport also... for us not so important but hey, lets have it here not to mix dates if ever mentioned... de facto june 1992, de facto Serbia (and Montenegro as collateral).... all voted for except China and Zimbabwe - interesting is if unimportant list of non permanent memberers - do not see Germany, Italy, Turkey there but of course they would vote if were there... Austria, Belgium, Cape Verde, Ecuador, Hungary, India, Japan, Morocco, Venezuela, Zimbabwe ; nobody against, China & Zimbabwe "neutral"...and of course our sanctions did not rise prices in other countries ; ...as said not important for us again today nor "touchy" i like to post things some forget or where dates are mixed in conversation, so in that sense sorry for non-sport but luckily there are few people "hungry for knowledge and details" so why not posting how abd when... our current goals F4 and Uranus. (and we are doing it with American blondes and Australian ones...)

[Ale]

Edy did nt play, that's first...

there was fight few minutes before end of game, between players... massive, even (small) spiling of blood. Undesirable scenes, esp. not in moment like this for us, but also for Real, from other angle but unimportant, maybe only desire is greater in our players. While maybe alright for gladiators (Dante, our camadante, had worst luck in events, sadly) not for basket, which is fast game but relatively "soft" so bad taste, even in city we have in good memory (there were some Fuenlabrada fans on stands)) ...referees had long talks and abandoned game, giving expulsion to all players of both sides (except Rudy Fernandez)) and result of the time of forced end was recorded, so we won 80-95. 2-0. Incredible... videos due to events not ready, but do look at it tomorrow if liking basket

word about betting, gambling... do not really like "bet house" being our sponsor nor it is really productive kind of "industry" - would prefer some automobile or tank producer, avioproducers etc. that's what we are good at as nation ) But they are reality and i never lost nor won any money there, all for fun and afordable... but as said many times like to observe them sociologically - before game Real win odds were 1,4x in our metrics on halftime even around, although we having big advantage at the moment, interesting ;

finally - Real will be team in arena surely - but really like the moment when i joked in november how we are going to F4, remained recorded for history

[Parabellum]

Some players briefly mixed up the sport and acted out their wrestling ambitions. With all due respect to the emotions that the sport brings, but that shouldn't happen.
Basketball Euro League: Real Madrid – Partizan Belgrad

[Ale]

yes, agree... thanks Para for addition & for interest in league, if you looked even in short reports as you know basket was big here once, this run is already close to our best since 90s so huge interest, though we had final4 in 2010... our club chairman said that even 80,000 capacity arena would be almost "small" ; ...anyway, lets forget it but epilogue is not so good - while "the wrestler" got 5 matches suspension - i'm even for much harsher punishments for sportists, as you noticed many times we talk exactly about their acts but often fans draw more attention & I talked it much before this, but well we all know they are "the stars" - BUT bad news is that our captain Punter got 2 matches, center Lessort one, while one of stars Dante is injured ; so next game we are very weakened in situation when Real should be finished... they lost Yabusele for long and Deck for one game suspension etc. Good thing is that was "Spanish-Serb" fight but no actual Spaniard nor Serb was in main role and Llul surely did not want fight... really hope that weakened team is able to do it in arena, almost would be tragedy Real to come back from this one.

for unrelated subject one dream i had maybe that day or friday - everbody i told to laughed... dreamt Arena, many fans, spectacular atmosphere and Party is playing final of EL, some final anyaway... in first row from bird persepective or camera perspective in my dream in arena line of Arab male dresses i.e. famous caps on heads that was it and true dream, probably brain mixed it with football talks or Brunei joke of mine etc. but is funny how brain works ...even if we win it, don,t see what would it change in life, but obviously brain recorded it as "important" event ; ...other fun moment was from Madrid and comparing my older post here where I critcized Euroleague when we did not play - namely fans in Madrid chanted few times "Euroleague mafia!" and Real is team with most titles ...F4 is already huge success but somehow would be great our coach to round it at 10 titles with us. thanks Para again, think video is worth having here - i'm still waiting for new comp (now it is holiday again so i'm expecting it later this week) so probably would not post it.

[Parabellum]

Snooker - a typically British sport, but a magical one in my eyes. The last few days on Eurosport have been exciting and were crowned last night with a new wonderful world champion. Luca Brecel (BEL) is the first continental European to win the title. An extraordinary performance against an also brilliant playing Mark Selby, who set the highlight in the final with his 147 maximum break.
SELBY MAGIC! The First 147 Break In A World Championship Final!

[Ale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR4xsh-fYo&t=219s

Factor Edy ; a bit overused with almost whole game played, not nice for his "injury status" and age but shows why he is so important still - but it was our ex-player and to whome we gave first chance in Europe few years ago (in unimportant era and almost do not remember him) who finished us with one 3 and generally good play, Nigel. Is traitor right word to describe? ...82-80 to Real if you do not to watch video but it has some nice English-voiced accent commentator for change, so in line with basket for fun next time I'd like Scottish accent ;

word was before game that we had 2 reasons to lose this game - to clear Punter suspension in next so he be there for F4 and to crowd Arena one more time, but of course it is all jokes and Edy with performance cleared his name of any "hollywood scripts" on it it is also "nice" to see ex-players (and our coach friends even) doing good against us, often they wanna do good against ex big clubs so we are big ....mentioning coach he said and gesticulated nice last evening - it is going to be "interesting game 4", now in situation when win is a must for both ; ...but coming back to crime scene in Madrid is not tragedy with all those Fuenlabrada fans waiting us to ruin them with last second 3 ...but let's say it is not gonna happen.

talking about interestings, should be interesting tonight in Fener-Oly duel... not only for being Turk-Greek duel, still less likely for fight than when two Turk clubs play eachother but as results is lined and all... and since Itudis shows no sign of backing down, since he become Ottoman (of course, using some Greek fan joke, but Itudis is godfather of our club legend)... sadly we couldn,t animate any (hot) Lithuanian fan around (maybe if forum put their flag and anthem as symbols) as i'm interested is Žalgiris able for one win now... you know for some "ticket", ticket for F4 of course odds are not ignorable and maybe Šarunas give them ; ...last words, generally "greatest drama" in continental club events since penalty shootout with Newcastle on "St. Shearer" (former James) few decades ago... mentioning it, wonder how would rematch look like today, now when we are both elite, oily teams, living on Saudi money etc etc ; ...see you in Kaunas (can Newcastle do that thing, answer) but won't be there because I just invested my "Kaunas money" in new PC

[Ale]

...but of course now game is sidetracked or in doubt even as we had some mass shooting in school, pupil killed pupils 8+ of them, some adults etc. First instance and such case in our history, not even during wars with many arriving armed and with weapons - not even talking nearest wars, not officially recorded in XIX c XX c etc. so first case ever, and even in "circle of tram 2" what is our term for old center of capital

while topic of game is in doubt, even celebrations and right atmosphere - not really as it is "unexpected" but because as said first case and rare, I "love" those usual talks in situations and "whose values are that"... as i commented much anyway so only short in day when America and Serbia are "hand in hand" with such news ; it is really unimportant and yes of course it happens in other bloody places, east and west, and will... but in this case (as i talked before) America and Serbia (and Montenegro) are by hard-too-know-exactly and uncountable in world's top of weapon pieces among civilians ; ...and yes, both here and there values changed (while we were armed historically for long) and younger do not care much for balance older generations had while growing with some fairytale books, nicer cartoons and similar, simplified and shortly said and without generalizations, while this case3 was of killer from "higher society" so not really true generally... i don't see it as west-east thing or phenomenon as it happens in islamic societies, Europe east, Germany or so yes in Russia ; ...but hey, main point is "fun fact" that we are among more armed civilians and first case in schools arrived... would be "easy" if only problem in society/-ies and would be nice if politicians "in shock" were not part of society problems for long really have no idea what with game now, but those things are scheduled... and we must win ;

(maybe some "fun facts" once in other thread but it changed sport subject substantialy - if for dark humor i remember how i joked on subject in other thread long ago and said how America should consult us on those matters of prevention, but now some would say we should consult America other way around on consequences...)

[Ale]

so it is 2-2... (78-85 to Real) for even person mildly, even no at all, interested in sport is not so obvious who has every mental and morale advantage and looks like end of hope ; ...but nothing is over though looks like "goliath" will do it (though honestly not so goliathic in basket, and no star is superstar)... two crucial games and "unusally" ineficient games in worst times i.e. less than (say) 85 points scored for high scoring team.

nothing over but should have been ) good luck to team in Madrid, would be nice but nothing if not... Punter is our captain, he'll play and we need him at best but from this peresepctive he should have fallen down holding his nose (like one guy in NBA did 2 years ago after Jokić slapped him harsher) and it would may have been one game suspension for Llull ; (not so crucial for current Real anyway, except as support) and complete team to finish them here, this way emotional reaction and consequences... but without him maybe wouldn't be here so just easy to say now. nobody is guilty, surely not always important point scoring Punter and hero of first game as well and season huge success - hope for trully spectacular game in Madrid and win, of course

new desktop is true power, very satisifed, best news in one generally bad May )

[Ale]

ahhhh, what to say one of those "great" sport moments and both teams delivered at high level as expected ...mad, crazy game 5 in fact like whole series and in same manner with us having huge advantage on half time (+16) and Real winning after all... 98-94 to Real in last game, another "NBA score" sadly on losing side, despite Punter's "heroics"... marketing for EL basket (and continental generally, i remember days when we won gold in basket against Italy with score like 60+ versus their 40+)) so was mad series. Even great atmosphere in Madrid in last 15 minutes, spectators standing and emotionally and noisy following every action looked like big game, again untipical for Madrid when it comes to basket... even players of both teams reacted after the game like it was some final etc.... (and even 2 mass shootings in-between in two days with Real team here, untipical also for country, alas humans and guns)

well that's it, the end of season and coverage - F4 is Real, Barca, Oly and Monaco... we'll play next season in EL again but i'm finished, was refreshing but next season only F4 if we make it ... after all not historic season for no small club but from small and from hard-to-grab-elite-trophies country, but of course thumbs up for whole team, captain and legendary coach who decided to lead us after having such name and fame (and he led us even in that final i mentioned with Italy, i think). Željko half-god we stay on 3-4 final fours since 1992... do look at video if nicelly collaged later or tomorrow... see you with some gaming subject. minor note - do not want to see Batistuta ever again, seen him million times in few months liked him as player and like him speaking our language, "znam!" )) but this was too much (was on some domestic commercial on our sport TV)

[Ale]

finally few words on EL, future etc... they say since our Roman times (Servius said?) that "deeds speak more than thousand words" (just don't say it was Greeks, Aristotle?) and that is exactly what we've done here... wasn't really "veni, vidi, vici" (but was close)) but as place was undeserved as we fell out of Eurocup in 1/8 finals although being among main favs - in elite holders of spectators record, top watched this season and even "spectacular" fight with Real, top titled club... can't to more really except winning. So deeds on our side... being in top 8 secured place for next, as should be... even historically we are not great talkers as our famous second uprising started (and finished) with famous words by Miloš "Here I am, here you are - war to the Turks!" (again)... of course not against Turks today, they are our pals and Istanbul out fav "well of girls" (but few blondes)) just to picture that we are not of words but deeds

when it comes to reform - of course it would be most interesting and most fair EL to have relegation zone with 3-4 clubs every season filled up by promoted clubs, say top 4 from Eurocup. But also of course it is sadly impossible with season having permanent members and licensed clubs which would not support it without having place... second reform is expansion, as proposed... well, just shortly our interest is only to gain one permanent place (at least) for Serbia, country that had 2 WCs and many EC medals, 2-3 golds alone (with Montenegro de jure), obviously capable to fill biggest arenas, interested spectators and even club that historically won it... all that if current ABA (regional) league fails, Serbia must have one place. Of course it is hard for EL with clubs structure and non-private shareholding with our giants, but i'm saying just from our perspective and interest, as short...

histoically and philosophically (since mentioned) it is question for us not others how we came to place with so many tradition and medals, crowd-ability etc. in situation that tiny Kaunas have permanent member before Belgrade... but as many things historically, it is fact and that Slovenia and Lithuania could decide on us, we being oldest independent country in whole EEurope etc for fun... with all respect to Lithuania, i spoke only nice about their passion... so in short and as said, glad that this season trully launched club as "basket power", what will be future not so much on us - but again even American/Australian players had notion of such importance in their mind, flatters as roundup... final joke again - if we are gonna "copy US" hope conference/division system will be well thought - i'd glasly do London lions every year in arena

[Ale]

must crown it, was evening of EL basket final.... Real Madrid is EL champion - again I said it was "one of that great/historic moments" after they victory against us and it really turned out that way as they won it after historical comeback as they taken the title... congrats but you know ; however when you have 20+ titles in 2 "most popular team sports" (depends, maybe not in London but yes where i sit) then surelly you are deservedly considered as one of best and most famous clubs on planet... it is number 11 for Real and in most incredible way, 3 seconds before the end by Llull above all ...he and Real "ruined" our club me again as i had Oly win as last "tip" for solid money so i feel their pain but really Real almost "deserved" after all...

we are history and forgotten but somehow final feeling is that it could have been us, just maybe in any way, positive thing that at least your "small" club was part of history, not their own ; .... i joked about it before series and said they should let us to take title number 2, but they took number 11 after all... it is like in geopolitics - some attack 100 countries in 100 years, you attack one every 100 years and everyone thinks you are aggressive, imperialistic, genocidal etc.... wasn't "written in the stars" for us was for Real as they say... congrats again, glad for their coach Mateo (looks and behaved as nice guy, and looks like average Madrid bus conductor)) and Edy who wasn't part of any excess ; and partly glad title went to city which was part of our only EL title 30 years ago (Fuenlabrada forever)... look at video tomorrow, really Lllull and Slukas for heartattack...

really great chance was (again maybe) next time even Pao, Bayern, Italians, French clubs and all will be much stronger... btw, Monaco was third, Barca after all was weakest play of F4. I'm gonna have some fun with basket further as Denver looks like going it to NBA finals (team with Jokić) so watching not over yet, but final comment... glad we played big, almost important part of this season after many years

[Ale]

final video for season and Real and us, have fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g15WPjlzKU


not my iconography (i'm medieval kind of impero-monarchialists)) but great song and greatest club east of Rome - as bonus for all readers and good vibes... Oh, Esmeralda my love is Fuenlabrada ....was great statement and season

[Ale]

if you however look at video and black-white photos as cover, small explain... since we have many fans in Scotland, Wales, Ireland ... Considering "Union Jacks" look alikes and British icon... well, while historically "creators of club" had some contacts with British army so could be interpretated + English fan history, not that at all nor political statements... if do not follow, it is black-white-gray version of symbols, something many fans around continent do for fun, transforming flags in their colors so fun...

generally, while iconic, we lacked some PR for club, but can confirm that club has some followers (or semi-fans) on British isles, in a way like Stella in Italy or similar... but this was case of usual fan colors put on symbols...

[Parabellum]

A look back at the last two weekends.

Le Mans (FRA) hosted the 1,000th MotoGP round. After the restrictions of the Corona pandemic, a record crowd of about 280,000 spectators was eagerly awaiting the event.
A Grand Prix weekend we'll never forget! | 2023 #FrenchGP

Another fantastic motorsport event was the 24-hour race at the lengendary Nürburgring (GER).
Record breaking 51st edition! Full Race Highlights | ADAC TotalEnergies 24h Nürburgring 2023

The Volleyball Champions League finals were held in Turin (ITA).
In the men's competition, two Polish teams met.
Highlights I Grupa Azoty Kędzierzyn-Koźle vs. Jastrzebski Wegiel I SuperFinals Turin 2023
There was a similar constellation in the women's final. Here two top teams from Istanbul (Turkey) met.
Highlights | VakifBank ISTANBUL vs. Eczacibasi Dynavit ISTANBUL | Super Finals Turin 2023

[Ale]

...what to say for Dortmund yesterday, mama-drama.... think now Bayern won't lose title next 150 years, when they won it yesterday... not happy as Dortmund result "cost me" btw ; ...unless someone like Schalke make a super team and de-throne them... wait, it's not gonna be Schalke, yo-yo team (meaning to second and first league every year)

however today was very succuessful (i mostly bet only weekends and this was the end of season) so symbolic put multiplied incredible 20 times, like those days, well done to all Spanish and English clubs for expected results... but AND AGAIN Germans were there for some last day drama, my gain mostly due to this effort and heroics by Heidenheim players, many bravos from me too ...had no idea that in Hamburg they alredy started celebrating, but then this happened, many thanks to referee as well, superb timing and added time ...they won in 100th minute for a goal that promoted them to bundesleague 1... what a schock for Hamburg and must admit I jumped as well, like Heidi supporter again bravo, why sport is sometimes liked much and Heidi was most efficient team in 2.BL so deserved... Hamburg-Stuttgart is true derby of ex-champs for survival now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQ-G8SDgdA

anyway, leave dramatic Germs to their dramas ; and again very emotional even for me ; but to finish with this... we managed to win confederate league (quals i guess) in Europe... team that won second CL spot is not Chooka after all, it is team i mentioned before as joke in context of Asano... as said many times, i'm pro small teams having their chance for glory, but somehow was "our place". It is called Bačka Topola, oddity is that even this team of ours was able to beat them 2-3 weeks ago on their mini-stadium 1:3... but doesn't matter, our football is far from able for great results and looking forward for Sheriff rematch next year... which i will not watch ...perfect end of season and my posts with trully incredible scenes and money gain today in 100th as they say ; ... have fun, good luck to Topola against Bayern and Barca ) amd well done to Heidi again - Heidi is my favourite from Germany, generally ... don't be shy and tell us what you watch and what was superb personally.