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cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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hello
i'm new to the forums but not open general.
I like a challenge so will be trying to see how far i get with CC56 at 0% prestige.
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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:howdy hello cmc, welcome to our forum.
At this point again my apologies for accidentally deleting your first post.

Well, referring to this deleted post I would like to say that it will be a long way until you will be hostile to the Soviets for the first time. I don't think you'll get that far either, because I think it's very unlikely that the campaign will be playable with 0% prestige. Especially the first scenarios, which are important for building your army, live on map prestige and not on victory bonuses. And you always have to play on BV, because V and TV bring too little prestige.

I look forward to your attempt with great interest and would be happy if you can convince me (us) of the playability of the campaign with 0%.
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S1 Nationalists BV-2 CC56 @ 0% - so far so good

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well there is one bonus for running at 0%, i don't have to collect all the flags just the strategic objectives

Ok so i had no problems with the Nationalists managing a BV in 10 turns
my level bomber got clobbered with AD and Fighters but survived with 1 point remaining. bought the ITA S207 fighter to deal with soviet fighters.
gained a DF leader on my ju87A.

awaded a 21cm M18 prototype.

AT the HQ i sold the level bomber, ties up a lot of prestige for an unit that does not deliver.
did a free upgrade of the S207 fighter to Me110C
upgraded the pak 4.7 to 88 + half track.

my bridging infantry only gained 1 point of exp. so i sold and then rebought them as foot infantry, basically to get the prestige back for the truck they were
supplied with.

OpenGen 0.92.0.5 * 9 Dec 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OGN2\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18

..
Current scenario: Fall Weiss, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 660 , Current prestige is 848
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +300, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +200, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_136 , 1 bars , 136 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_101 , 1 bars , 101 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_31 , 0 bars , 31 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:013

Tank
* Pz IIIC , IIIC_71 , 0 bars , 71 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* Pz IIA , IIA_44 , 0 bars , 44 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:005

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_132 , 1 bars , 132 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:006

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , P4.7T10_83 , 0 bars , 83 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:015

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_78 , 0 bars , 78 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:012
* 10.5 leFH 18 , Truck , 10.5T10_89 , 0 bars , 89 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:014
+ 21cm M18 , Steyr , 21HT5_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:017

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_110 , 1 bars , 110 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_181 , 1 bars , 181 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , S207_97 , 0 bars , 97 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:016

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_169 , 1 bars , 169 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF110 , 1 bars , 110 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:21 TNK:6 RCN:1 AT:4 FORT:5 ATY:10 FTR:4 TB:1 Total: 52
Lost : Total: 0

BV 1
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 268 exp, 8 kill, 228 pp Average: 67 exp, 2 kill, 57 pp
Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 115 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp Average: 58 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 132 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp Average: 132 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 83 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp Average: 83 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 167 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 56 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 388 exp, 6 kill, 432 pp Average: 129 exp, 2 kill, 144 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 279 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp Average: 140 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 16 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1432 exp, 24 kill, 660 pp Average: 90 exp, 2 kill, 41 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 54 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 6
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 2
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 6
Tactical Bomber : 4
Destroyer : 1
Battle Cruiser : 1
Light Cruiser : 1


Player 2 Poland - estimated force: 74 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 33%
Recon / Tank : 9%
Air Defense / FlaK : 15%
Air : 6%
Naval : 0%

* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points
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S2 Fall Weiss BV-1 CC56 @ 0% no real problems

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used naval support to take out the AD at danzig then landed the fallschirmjager's these again with naval support capture the port.
Naval support then used to take out AD at the airfield at 2/24 which was used to reembark(turn 5) fallschirmjager so they could take the final objective at the
bottom left of the map.

M18 arty deployed west of weichel to assist aux stormtroopers in taking the bridge.
remainder of core deployed to the east, where they remained out of range of the enemy arty for first 3 turns, while the fortifications and AD were reduced
by arty.

IIIC, foot infantry and the 10.5 arty were used on the coast out of enemy arty range to make progress west towards Elbing.

dropped fallschirmjager at turn 7 6 hexes short of final victory hex, but out of range of AD, police unit was also used to assist.
AI then purchased additional cavalary which made the end tricky, Luftwaffe used in the face of the AD to assist.

Other Ju87A gained a combat support leader. No prototype.

Here is the AAR just before taking the final victory hex. 263 Recon unit got battered taking out enemy arty.

Now wondering how to spend the 1148 prestige points now i have access to soviet tanks and arty.
with hindsight i should have kept level bomber one more turn before selling it .

OpenGen 0.92.0.5 * 9 Dec 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OGN2\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18

..
Current scenario: Fall Weiss, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 660 , Current prestige is 848
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 9
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +300, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +200, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, To Warsaw , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_0 , 1 bars , 106 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , 3 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_136 , 2 bars , 210 exp , Waffen SS , 5/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_101 , 1 bars , 177 exp , Waffen SS , 4/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_31 , 1 bars , 183 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:013

Tank
* Pz IIIC , IIIC_71 , 2 bars , 217 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* Pz IIA , IIA_44 , 1 bars , 122 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_132 , 1 bars , 157 exp , Waffen SS , 4/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:006

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , P4.7T10_83 , 2 bars , 213 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:015

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_78 , 1 bars , 122 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:012
* 10.5 leFH 18 , Truck , 10.5T10_89 , 2 bars , 217 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:014
+ 21cm M18 , Steyr , 21HT5_0 , 0 bars , 35 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:017

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_110 , 2 bars , 205 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_181 , 2 bars , 265 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , S207_97 , 1 bars , 171 exp , Italy , 7/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:016

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_169 , 2 bars , 237 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF110 , 2 bars , 266 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:44 TNK:13 RCN:3 AT:10 FORT:11 ATY:22 AD:12 FTR:8 TB:3 Total: 126
Lost : Total: 0

BV 1
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 676 exp, 17 kill, 228 pp Average: 169 exp, 4 kill, 57 pp
Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 339 exp, 11 kill, 0 pp Average: 170 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 157 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 157 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 213 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp Average: 213 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 374 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp Average: 125 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 641 exp, 10 kill, 432 pp Average: 214 exp, 3 kill, 144 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 503 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 252 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 16 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2903 exp, 52 kill, 660 pp Average: 181 exp, 3 kill, 41 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 54 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 6
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 2
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 6
Tactical Bomber : 4
Destroyer : 1
Battle Cruiser : 1
Light Cruiser : 1


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+ <- BV prototype
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Re: S1 Nationalists BV-2 CC56 @ 0% - so far so good

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cmc wrote: 2022-01-17 16:05, Monday well there is one bonus for running at 0%, i don't have to collect all the flags just the strategic objectives
...
:huh You have knowledge that I lack and am very interested in. Please write more about it, especially about the amount of the bonus.
I am very surprised that you can have so much prestige. I did not expect that :o .
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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I think CMC just used an unfortunate word and he was actually saying that not having to collect the flags is an advantage as it saves time. He doesn't get any money from the flags anyway. And he probably has that much prestige because he sold the level bomber. They're usually quite expensive.
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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i think you misunderstand regarding the bonus, there is no additional prestige for running at 0%
but i dont have to allocate units to collect the prestige from non victory flags, as there isnt any when running at 0%.
So the "bonus" is in terms of time and units.

So i'm in the HQ deciding how to spend the 1148 prestige points, your surprised at how much i have when running at 0%
dont forget i sold the ineffective level bomber which yielded 696
The 2 BV for scenario 1 and 2 gave me another 600

Looking at the available soviet Arty the A19 gains experience twice as fast as the BR17or the 152mm.
And the BT5A and KV1 tanks loo like good buys.
ideally i want 2 range 5 ARTY's a KV1 and 2 BT5A's
I will have to do some selling to make this possible.
The M18 prototype from S1 has only gained 36 points of experience and will have to be sold and replaced by a A19.
My 10.5 ARTY which now has 2 bars of experiance will be upgraded to a BR17
PzIIIC will be upgraded to KV1
PzIIA will be upgraded to BT5A
And i will purchase 1 addiational BT5A

which leaves me with 44 prestige points
here is the AAR from S3 HQ after the upgrades:-

OpenGen 0.92.0.5 * 9 Dec 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OGN2\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: To Warsaw, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 1368 , Current prestige is 44
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +600, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if V : +550, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_106 , 1 bars , 106 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_210 , 2 bars , 210 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_177 , 1 bars , 177 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_183 , 1 bars , 183 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:012

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_217 , 2 bars , 217 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_122 , 1 bars , 122 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:168

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_157 , 1 bars , 157 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:006

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_213 , 2 bars , 213 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:014

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_122 , 1 bars , 122 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_217 , 2 bars , 217 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 0 kill , 480 pp - U:016

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_205 , 2 bars , 205 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_265 , 2 bars , 265 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , S207_171 , 1 bars , 171 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:015

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_CS237 , 2 bars , 237 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF266 , 2 bars , 266 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Russia
Killed: INF:44 TNK:13 RCN:3 AT:10 FORT:11 ATY:22 AD:12 FTR:8 TB:3 Total: 126
Lost : Total: 0

BV 2
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 676 exp, 17 kill, 228 pp Average: 169 exp, 4 kill, 57 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 339 exp, 11 kill, 228 pp Average: 113 exp, 4 kill, 76 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 157 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 157 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 213 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp Average: 213 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 339 exp, 1 kill, 480 pp Average: 113 exp, 0 kill, 160 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 641 exp, 10 kill, 432 pp Average: 214 exp, 3 kill, 144 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 503 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 252 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 17 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2868 exp, 50 kill, 1368 pp Average: 169 exp, 3 kill, 80 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Russia has 48 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 14
Tank : 8
Recon : 2
Anti-tank : 3
Artillery : 7
Air Defense : 2
Fighter : 7
Tactical Bomber : 5


Player 2 Poland - estimated force: 113 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 36%
Recon / Tank : 6%
Air Defense / FlaK : 10%
Air : 5%
Naval : 0%

* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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cmc wrote: 2022-01-18 12:45, Tuesday i think you misunderstand regarding the bonus, there is no additional prestige for running at 0% ...
Yes, I misunderstood that.

I see you are a good general. The kill-loss ratio is optimal so far. This gives hope that you will do well in the campaign. As a BV bonus, you have 45,700 pp available until the 46th scenario. Choosing which units to buy and upgrading them later (multiple times) will be key to your success in this campaign.

My prediction is that you will be able to play the campaign with about 50 units. I am not sure if the number and quality will be enough.
It will be an exciting experiment.
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at turn 5 in S3 Warsaw CC56 @ 0%

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still to gain air superiority - surprised by AI's agressiveness with its air fleet.
sandomierz,krakow and lodz have been taken.
Posnan and Twierdza Modlin are under siege.

A19 not gaining experience as fast as i thought it would but the BR17 which inherited 200+ is a game changer.
need engineers.
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Warsaw BV-4 T10 CC56 @ 0%

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No prototype.
644 to spend in the HQ before Trondheim, what to sped it on ?
gained Aggressive Attack Leader for one on my ME109C's
DF leader on Ju87A combined with CS Leader o its Ju87A partner has resulted in it gaining 5 bars!
A19 Arty only managed to gain 41 experience points which is disappointing.

AAR just before taking the last objective

OpenGen 0.92.0.5 * 9 Dec 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OGN2\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: To Warsaw, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 1368 , Current prestige is 44
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +600, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if V : +550, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Seizing Trondheim , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_106 , 1 bars , 176 exp , Waffen SS , 5/10 , 5 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_210 , 2 bars , 269 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , BT10_177 , 2 bars , 272 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_183 , 2 bars , 281 exp , Waffen SS , 5/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_217 , 3 bars , 323 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_122 , 2 bars , 222 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_0 , 1 bars , 101 exp , Russia , 5/10 , 12 kill , 228 pp - U:168

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_157 , 2 bars , 295 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:006

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_213 , 3 bars , 318 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:014

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_122 , 1 bars , 167 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_217 , 2 bars , 281 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_0 , 0 bars , 41 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 1 kill , 480 pp - U:016

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_205 , 3 bars , 307 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , Aggressive Attack , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_265 , 3 bars , 348 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , S207_171 , 2 bars , 285 exp , Italy , 7/10 , 4 kill , 432 pp - U:015

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_CS237 , 3 bars , 330 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , Combat Support , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF266 , 5 bars , 549 exp , Waffen SS , 6/10 , Devastating Fire , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Russia
Killed: INF:75 TNK:18 RCN:5 AT:16 FORT:25 ATY:40 AD:24 FTR:12 TB:5 Total: 220
Lost : Total: 0

BV 2
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 998 exp, 28 kill, 228 pp Average: 250 exp, 7 kill, 57 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 646 exp, 37 kill, 228 pp Average: 215 exp, 12 kill, 76 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 295 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 295 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 318 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp Average: 318 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 489 exp, 4 kill, 480 pp Average: 163 exp, 1 kill, 160 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 940 exp, 16 kill, 432 pp Average: 313 exp, 5 kill, 144 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 879 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp Average: 440 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 17 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4565 exp, 103 kill, 1368 pp Average: 269 exp, 6 kill, 80 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Russia has 69 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 22
Tank : 14
Recon : 4
Anti-tank : 3
Artillery : 12
Air Defense : 2
Fighter : 7
Tactical Bomber : 5


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after a lot of consideration i bought 37mm flak with half track at 276
and 1 120mm mortar again with half track at 312
leaving me with 56 prestige points remaining.

I need AD for the expensive Arty I've bought and it will take a lot of time to develop this unit, the HT will aide as it can fight in its transport.
the 120mm mortar, it will gain experience fast, its ideal support for my foot bound infantry having 2 movement points, and the HT will also allow it to engage in its transport at range, When experienced it will be ungraded to a NbWf41 the first artillery with Engineer capability.
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managed to bring the 120mm mortar team upto 82 point of experience fighting alongside foot infantry and the 37mm AD which also gained 113 points fighting from its HT transport.

Lots of leaders gained
BT5A Resiliance
88 Combat Support
15cm Arty Infiltration Tactics
BR17 Arty Street Fighter
Inf Attack
109C Battlefield Intelligence

I now have 556 to spend

AAR in HQ :-
OpenGen 0.92.0.5 * 9 Dec 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OGN2\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40

..
Current scenario: Crisis At Narvik, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 1956 , Current prestige is 556
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +800, The Ardennes Offensive , cap disabled, 9 turns prestige: 0
if V : +300, The Ardennes Offensive , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, The Ardennes Offensive , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +400, Holland In Sight , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_176 , 2 bars , 237 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_269 , 3 bars , 301 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Infanterie , Truck , BT10_272 , 3 bars , 347 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_281 , 3 bars , 344 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:012

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_323 , 4 bars , 400 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 20 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_222 , 2 bars , 276 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_101 , 2 bars , 204 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 20 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:020

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_295 , 3 bars , 377 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:006

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_318 , 4 bars , 425 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:014

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_167 , 2 bars , 207 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_281 , 3 bars , 315 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_41 , 0 bars , 90 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 2 kill , 480 pp - U:016
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 20HT7_0 , 0 bars , 82 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:019

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_0 , 1 bars , 113 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 276 pp - U:018

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_AA307 , 3 bars , 365 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_348 , 4 bars , 412 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , S207_285 , 3 bars , 357 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 432 pp - U:015

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_CS330 , 3 bars , 382 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF* , 5 bars , 669 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:94 TNK:18 RCN:5 AT:16 FORT:34 ATY:46 AD:30 FTR:18 TB:7 CRs:3 Total: 271
Lost : Total: 0

BV 4
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1229 exp, 38 kill, 228 pp Average: 307 exp, 10 kill, 57 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 880 exp, 52 kill, 228 pp Average: 220 exp, 13 kill, 57 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 377 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp Average: 377 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 425 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp Average: 425 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 694 exp, 9 kill, 792 pp Average: 174 exp, 2 kill, 198 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 113 exp, 0 kill, 276 pp Average: 113 exp, 0 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1134 exp, 23 kill, 432 pp Average: 378 exp, 8 kill, 144 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1051 exp, 10 kill, 0 pp Average: 526 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 20 Units * 9 Leaders Total : 5903 exp, 145 kill, 1956 pp Average: 295 exp, 7 kill, 98 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 48 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 14
Tank : 5
Recon : 1
Anti-tank : 1
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 3
Fighter : 6
Tactical Bomber : 4
Submarine : 1
Destroyer : 2
Battle Cruiser : 1
Cruiser : 1
Light Cruiser : 1


Player 2 United Kingdom, Norway - estimated force: 54 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 27%
Recon / Tank : 2%
Air Defense / FlaK : 5%
Air : 18%
Naval : 7%

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upgraded Infantry to stormtroopers Engineer capability required to deal with the ever increasing entrenchment levels
bought a infantry foot unit to train up
40 prestige points remaining
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the Luftwaffe were severely pressed and did not attain air superiority.
Naval superiority was gained by turn 4.
bad weather on turns 3 and 4.
If the royal navy were more aggressive i would have bee in trouble. AI's air force were very aggressive from turn 1, its beaufighter I6 TB even attacked my 37mm flack!, and with some success.

37mm flack and 120 mortar both gained 1 bar, The trainee inf managed 97point just short of a bar. The Strumtruppen 40 gains experience slowly only managing 57 points despite engineering several good overrun turns for it.

I have 840 to spend in the HQ, it might be time to upgrade the I3 109C fighters!
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840 to spend
No real air or armour threat
Jagdkommando no transport 348 - time to train up some airborne capability
120mm mortar no transport 204 - train up more arty to fight with the foot sloggers
37mm flk with halftrack 276 - train up more air defence

12 prestige points remain.
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Easy, all turns used so that new units could gain experience, unfortunately the two Foot infanty units and the 120mm mortar without transport only managed a few rounds of combat, enemy units were too dispersed to keep them fed with new targets. The two Flk 37mm in half tracks managed to fight nearly every turn i their transport, both gained good experience points.

I now have 812 to spend
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812 to spend so what should the priorities be.
Air Superiority will be key in the future but as yet no real air threat as been encountered, but air units need time to gain experience.
Eventually my army will have to split into battle groups so another recon unit is required.
My 120mm mortar without trasnport only managed to gain 30 exp points in the last scenario mainly because it got left behind even though i bypassed units and left them for it to destroy.

new 110C fighter 432
new 231 recon 192
Half Track for 120mm mortar 108

that leaves 80 prestige points remaining
AAR after purchases and ugpgrades :-
Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Holland In Sight, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 3744 , Current prestige is 80
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, Breakout Of France , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if V : +100, Breakout Of France , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, Breakout Of France , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_335 , 3 bars , 335 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_371 , 3 bars , 371 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA413 , 4 bars , 413 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_414 , 4 bars , 414 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_100 , 1 bars , 100 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_103 , 1 bars , 103 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 348 pp - U:022

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 513 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_424 , 4 bars , 424 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 24 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R339 , 3 bars , 339 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 22 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_168 , 1 bars , 168 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 0 pp - U:020

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 537 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 192 pp - U:141

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 513 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:014

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT284 , 2 bars , 284 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF382 , 3 bars , 382 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_170 , 1 bars , 170 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 2 kill , 480 pp - U:016
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_216 , 2 bars , 216 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:019
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_30 , 0 bars , 30 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 312 pp - U:023

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_259 , 2 bars , 259 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_112 , 1 bars , 112 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 276 pp - U:024

Fighter
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_AA489 , 4 bars , 489 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-109C-1 , 109C_BI* , 5 bars , 541 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_472 , 4 bars , 472 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 8 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:140

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_CS502 , 5 bars , 502 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_DF* , 5 bars , 793 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:007

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:131 TNK:24 RCN:6 AT:21 FORT:53 ATY:61 AD:38 FTR:27 TB:10 DD:2 CRs:6 Total: 379
Lost : Total: 0

BV 6
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 6 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1736 exp, 57 kill, 804 pp Average: 289 exp, 10 kill, 134 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1444 exp, 94 kill, 228 pp Average: 361 exp, 24 kill, 57 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 537 exp, 8 kill, 192 pp Average: 269 exp, 4 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 513 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 513 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1082 exp, 13 kill, 1104 pp Average: 216 exp, 3 kill, 221 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 371 exp, 3 kill, 552 pp Average: 186 exp, 2 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1502 exp, 33 kill, 864 pp Average: 376 exp, 8 kill, 216 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1295 exp, 13 kill, 0 pp Average: 648 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 26 Units * 9 Leaders Total : 8480 exp, 227 kill, 3744 pp Average: 326 exp, 9 kill, 144 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 43 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 9
Tank : 8
Recon : 4
Anti-tank : 2
Artillery : 9
Air Defense : 5
Fighter : 4
Tactical Bomber : 2


Player 2 Netherlands, United Kingdom, Belgium - estimated force: 104 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 39%
Recon / Tank : 8%
Air Defense / FlaK : 4%
Air : 5%
Naval : 0%

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managed bv just in time last BV objective was taken with inadequate forces due to poor disposition of forces. Jagdcommando used to take out British radar si, but i did it too early, they had to fight it out with just air support. I wasn't aggressive enough in the first 4 turns, spent too much time baby sitting units under training.

I Only have 280 prestige to spend!
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with only 280 available i can only make one purchase its either another 88 or PzIVD, i'll try the IVD
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840 to spend in the HQ

arty got battered, i to replay some turns to prevent its loss
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832 to spend on Gibraltar
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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I miss a few AAR's from the last Szenarios - how big is your army by now? I would like to compare with my run.
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
Completed CCCs: #8
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cmc CC56 @ 0% problems loading Gibraltar map BV no proto

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i could not get the Gibraltar+ map to load correctly. Eventually i updated OG to the latest version and reloaded the latest CC pack which cured the problem.

with the 832 prestige i upgraded both my 109C fighters to 110C and my DEV FIRE leader Ju87A to SM79 leaving just 28 points remaining.

first 3 turns i concentrated on gaining air superiority, breaking down the British AD network and taking out the northern most battleship which was causing damage to my ARTY.

The ground fighting front is very small and it is difficult to bring many ground units into action, so not much scope for training inexperienced ground units.

Once Air superiority was gained and the threat from naval gunfire removed i systematically worked my way down the western side of the isthmus. JagKommando were landed to take out the water catchment VH on the eastern side. They the joined the paras who were dropped onto the tip of the isthmus in the face of AD and Artillery, high casualties but the British were overwhelmed.

So i'm now in sealion part 1 with 628 to spend, here is the AAR before purchases:- looks like i'll be fighting 18 enemy air units!

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Sealion Part I, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 4692 , Current prestige is 628
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 60
if BV: +500, Sealion Part II , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if V : +300, Sealion Part II , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +300, Sealion Part II , cap disabled, 16 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, Seizing Balkans Part I , cap disabled, 16 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Infanterie , IF3_412 , 4 bars , 458 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 20 kill , 228 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_498 , 5 bars , 540 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 571 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 31 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 524 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_284 , 3 bars , 319 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA275 , 3 bars , 359 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 11 kill , 348 pp - U:022

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 759 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 41 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 640 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 38 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 710 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 46 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD418 , 4 bars , 489 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 56 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_131 , 1 bars , 182 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 240 pp - U:027

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 823 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_337 , 4 bars , 412 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 691 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:014

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT415 , 4 bars , 450 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF467 , 5 bars , 513 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_293 , 3 bars , 361 exp , Russia , 10/10 , 6 kill , 480 pp - U:016
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_DF527 , 5 bars , 656 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 7 kill , 312 pp - U:019
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_234 , 3 bars , 354 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 312 pp - U:023

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 528 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 6 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_389 , 4 bars , 403 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_59 , 0 bars , 89 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 897 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 876 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 20 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 892 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 11 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_365 , 4 bars , 423 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_110 , 2 bars , 200 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:030

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87A-1 , 87A_CS* , 5 bars , 737 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* SM.79 , SM79_DF* , 5 bars , 1202 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 23 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_0 , 1 bars , 170 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Italy
Killed: INF:219 TNK:44 RCN:18 AT:27 FORT:137 ATY:105 AD:74 FTR:53 TB:27 LB:1 DD:6 BS:2 CV:1 CRs:11 Total: 725
Lost : INF:1 TNK:1 RCN:1 ATY:1 FTR:2 TB:2 SUB:1 DD:2 Total: 11

BV 10
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 6 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2771 exp, 117 kill, 804 pp Average: 462 exp, 20 kill, 134 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2780 exp, 196 kill, 468 pp Average: 556 exp, 39 kill, 94 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1235 exp, 19 kill, 192 pp Average: 618 exp, 10 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 691 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp Average: 691 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2334 exp, 29 kill, 1104 pp Average: 467 exp, 6 kill, 221 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1020 exp, 11 kill, 828 pp Average: 340 exp, 4 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3288 exp, 53 kill, 1296 pp Average: 658 exp, 11 kill, 259 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2109 exp, 34 kill, 0 pp Average: 703 exp, 11 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 30 Units * 14 Leaders Total : 16228 exp, 467 kill, 4692 pp Average: 541 exp, 16 kill, 156 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Italy has 81 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 15
Tank : 7
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 4
Fortification : 2
Artillery : 7
Air Defense : 6
Fighter : 12
Tactical Bomber : 5
Level Bomber : 1
Submarine : 4
Destroyer : 6
Battleship : 1
Battle Cruiser : 2
Cruiser : 2
Light Cruiser : 4


Player 2 United Kingdom - estimated force: 84 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 10%
Recon / Tank : 2%
Air Defense / FlaK : 10%
Air : 21%
Naval : 15%

* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points
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cmc sealion Part 1 HQ CC56 @ 0%

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what to spend the 628 on?
lack of armour and Antitank is concerning but the next two scenarios will give little scope for training it, it would be languishing in its naval transport for most of the time.

The next two scenarios are predominantly air/naval battles. I have no intention of developing a Naval core force what good would it be in the later scenarios.

So that leaves that leaves the Luftwaffe. The one unit that cries out for upgrade is my remaining JU87A, but this unit has acquired a combat support leader which means it spends much of its time supporting other units and not fighting. In time i think it will become a 189UHU but for now the compromise is a 110C
TB, it will support the fighters during the fight for air superiority and its air attack capability will compliment this.

The remaining prestige will be used to upgraded one of my foot infantry units to jagdkommandos.
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cmc sealion part 1 CC56 @ 0% BV no prototype

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first attempt at this scenario i lost too many navel units to air attacks during the first turn.

second attempt i gained air and naval superiority by turn 4 and then had my land forces decimated by the powerful coastal defences.

On the third attempt i played more cautiously.

deployed my AD at my embarkation ports and used it to cover my invasion troops who waited under its protection for first 4 turns.
Luftwaffe took 4 turns to take down the british fighters and tacticle bombers, i used my tactical bombers to take out the 3 british battleships before their long range guns did too much damage to my navel forces.

On turn 5 my two teams of jagdkommando went airborne and joined the aux paras.

the two fleets of invasion craft then set sail. Naval units then reduced the costal and air defences along with TB's before they were in range.
many Aux units were decimated during the landing phase.

a tough battle.

i now have 564 to spend
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cmc CC56 @ 0% sealion part1 continuation BV no prototype

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Having reviewed the experience gained by my non 5 bar units it was disappointing except for the air units, basically the ground units did not have enough round of combat before i took all the VH. I had 5 turns in hand to still gain a BV. So i went back to my final turn a delayed taking the final VH and gave my inexperienced ground units time to fight in the north. This paid dividends all units benefited the notable ones being my PzIVD it gained 105 extra points taking on the 2 matildas in the north, i managed to engineer some good overuns with it wit about 9 other units supporting it.

From now on i think this will have to be my style of play, using all the turns to train inexperienced units once the final VH is secured but not taken.

I had to reload the end turn to remove a prototype that i did not acquire last time.

so i'm now back in sealion part 2 HQ wondering what to buy with my 564, but with a much better core army. Summary

5 tanks 4 fully trained.
1 AT fully trained
3 heavy Arty 1 fully trained
2 light Arty 1fully trained
2 recon 1 fully trained
3 AD 1 fully trained
6 INF 3 fully trained
5 FTR 4 fully trained
3 TB 2 fully trained
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Sealion part 1 failed to bv going again

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so in the HQ i purchased PzIVD and another 88 with half track.

I abandoned the game when the BV turn limit expired, after making a number of mistakes mainly on how I divided my ground forces up.
I sent too many forces west and not enough north east.

The Luftwaffe were hard pressed and did not gain air superiority until turn 9, I never gained naval superiority which cost me dearly.

I will be licking my wounds and trying again from the start.

By far the toughest(and most enjoyable) battle so far. I turn 10 i took the penultimate VH with an Aux PzIII which had no ammo and only 2 strength points left, i had nothing left for the top right VH.

The map did cause me to make an error deploying my JagdKommando's they were dispatched west to capture what looked like a VH airport, which they did but they could not reembark as it was not actually a airport!. They could have made all the difference in the final turn.
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cmc attempts CC56 @ 0% sealion part 2(again) BV sturmtruppen 40 proto

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All turns used with no spare. Hindsight allowed my to divide my forces better this time.
air superiority gained during turn 6 and naval by turn 8.

AAR just before BV

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Sealion Part II, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 5352 , Current prestige is 24
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 184
if BV: +700, Battle For London , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +500, Battle For London , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, Battle For London , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, Seizing Balkans Part I , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 615 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , Street Fighter , 25 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 621 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 29 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 647 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 37 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 565 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_340 , 4 bars , 406 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 15 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA475 , 5 bars , 546 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 15 kill , 348 pp - U:022

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 869 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 44 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 686 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 46 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 772 exp , Russia , 3/10 , Resilience , 49 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 611 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , Fire Discipline , 65 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_287 , 4 bars , 425 exp , Waffen SS , 5/10 , 22 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_0 , 1 bars , 140 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 240 pp - U:133

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 901 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_488 , 5 bars , 592 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , 10 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 805 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_0 , 0 bars , 92 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 300 pp - U:134

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT475 , 5 bars , 504 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 575 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_377 , 4 bars , 414 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 7 kill , 480 pp - U:016
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 784 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 7 kill , 312 pp - U:019
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_403 , 4 bars , 471 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 312 pp - U:023

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 692 exp , Waffen SS , 7/10 , Devastating Fire , 11 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_456 , 5 bars , 509 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_89 , 1 bars , 147 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1067 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , Aggressive Attack , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1046 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1060 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 21 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 554 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_299 , 3 bars , 364 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 5 kill , 432 pp - U:030

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 912 exp , Waffen SS , 8/10 , Combat Support , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* SM.79 , SM79_DF* , 5 bars , 1443 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 30 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_264 , 3 bars , 379 exp , Waffen SS , 9/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:251 TNK:54 RCN:21 AT:30 FORT:174 ATY:124 AD:93 FTR:80 TB:40 LB:4 SUB:1 DD:13 BS:5 CV:3 CRs:23 Total: 916
Lost : INF:4 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:3 SUB:1 DD:6 CRs:2 Total: 27

BV 11
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 6 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3400 exp, 139 kill, 924 pp Average: 567 exp, 23 kill, 154 pp
Tank * 6 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3503 exp, 235 kill, 708 pp Average: 584 exp, 39 kill, 118 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1493 exp, 23 kill, 192 pp Average: 747 exp, 12 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 897 exp, 9 kill, 300 pp Average: 449 exp, 5 kill, 150 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 2748 exp, 35 kill, 1104 pp Average: 550 exp, 7 kill, 221 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1348 exp, 20 kill, 828 pp Average: 449 exp, 7 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4091 exp, 78 kill, 1296 pp Average: 818 exp, 16 kill, 259 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2734 exp, 49 kill, 0 pp Average: 911 exp, 16 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 32 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 20214 exp, 588 kill, 5352 pp Average: 632 exp, 18 kill, 167 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 44 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 8
Tank : 7
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 2
Artillery : 7
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 5
Tactical Bomber : 3
Submarine : 1
Destroyer : 1
Battle Cruiser : 1
Cruiser : 1
Light Cruiser : 1
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cmc CC56 @ 0% london BV no proto

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no upgrades or purchases were made in the HQ, i saved my prestige for the following HQ when new equipment would be available

no problems with london.

now in Balkans part 1 HQ wondering how to spend 1724.
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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SM79 -> Ju88A cost 336
2 of 120mm Mortars -> NbWf41 cost 240 both these fully trained units give me Engineer capability
Inf -> Stormtroopers' cost 228

Then more new units to train up
88 + Halftrack cost 300
Inf on foot cost 228
120mm mortar + Half track cost 312

leaving me with just 20 prestige points.
I have 10 units to train and 25 units fully trained(i.e. 5 bars)


AAR after changes in HQ
OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Seizing Balkans Part I, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 6216 , Current prestige is 20
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 208
if BV: +600, Seizing Balkans Part II , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, Seizing Balkans Part II , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, Seizing Balkans Part II , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 709 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 27 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 666 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 31 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 737 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 40 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 676 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_463 , 4 bars , 463 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 19 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 590 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 16 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:131

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 907 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 47 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 750 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 48 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 819 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 55 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 748 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 76 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_477 , 4 bars , 477 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 25 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_227 , 2 bars , 227 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_103 , 1 bars , 103 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:033

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 931 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 632 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 899 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_258 , 2 bars , 258 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 300 pp - U:133

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 568 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 623 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 521 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 9 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 860 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 8 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 547 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 312 pp - U:132

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 720 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 13 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 542 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_245 , 2 bars , 245 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1137 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1097 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1100 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 24 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 626 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_442 , 4 bars , 442 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 432 pp - U:030

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 955 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 1598 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 33 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_449 , 4 bars , 449 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:279 TNK:54 RCN:21 AT:30 FORT:200 ATY:141 AD:108 FTR:88 TB:42 LB:4 SUB:1 DD:13 BS:5 CV:3 CRs:23 Total: 1012
Lost : INF:5 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:3 SUB:1 DD:6 CRs:2 Total: 28

BV 13
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3841 exp, 154 kill, 1152 pp Average: 549 exp, 22 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4031 exp, 263 kill, 708 pp Average: 576 exp, 38 kill, 101 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1563 exp, 25 kill, 192 pp Average: 782 exp, 13 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1157 exp, 10 kill, 600 pp Average: 386 exp, 3 kill, 200 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 3119 exp, 44 kill, 1440 pp Average: 520 exp, 7 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1507 exp, 22 kill, 828 pp Average: 502 exp, 7 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4402 exp, 81 kill, 1296 pp Average: 880 exp, 16 kill, 259 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3002 exp, 55 kill, 0 pp Average: 1001 exp, 18 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 36 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 22622 exp, 654 kill, 6216 pp Average: 628 exp, 18 kill, 173 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Romania has 47 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 11
Tank : 8
Recon : 2
Anti-tank : 4
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 6
Tactical Bomber : 4


Player 2 Yugoslavia - estimated force: 95 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 43%
Recon / Tank : 2%
Air Defense / FlaK : 10%
Air : 5%
Naval : 0%
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cmc CC56 @ 0% balkans part 1 BV no prototype

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No problems
A good scenario to train up my inexperienced troops here is a summary of experience they gained
PzIVD 477 -> 554 Now fully trained
PzIVD 277 -> 314
S40 103 -> 187 this unit type gains experience very slowly
88 258 -> 347 88's gain experience fast
88 0 -> 143 gave this rookie unit assistance by pairing him up with my combat support unit
120mm 0-> 159 gave this rookie unit assistance by pairing him up with my combat support unit
37mm 245 ->366 fighting almost every turn in his transport
IF3 0 -> 58 gave this rookie unit assistance by pairing him up with my combat support unit
IF3 463->510 Now Fully trained
Me110C 442 -> 468
Ju88A 449 -> 502 Now fully trained

During the scenario i formed a training group consisting of a fully trained 88 combat support unit, which never fired a shot, A new 88, new foot infantry and new 120mm mortar team, they fought as a team against a single enemy unit always adjacent to the combat support unit. I specifically bypassed units with my main forces to ensure that they engaged a enemy target on every turn.

What to spend the 620 prestige points on ready for Balkans part 2?
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cmc CC56 @ 0% in HQ Balkans part 2

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with 20+ air units against me Me109F was purchased and put into training, i will have to be careful with this inexperienced fighter
unit or the AI will target it.

Here is AAR after its purchase

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Seizing Balkans Part II, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 6768 , Current prestige is 68
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 98
if BV: +600, Seizing Balkans Part III , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, Seizing Balkans Part III , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, Seizing Balkans Part III , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 729 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 28 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 733 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 35 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 836 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 45 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 719 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 23 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_* , 5 bars , 510 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 20 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 613 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 19 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_58 , 0 bars , 58 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 228 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 979 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 49 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 780 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 49 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 897 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 57 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 824 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 88 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 554 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 30 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_314 , 3 bars , 314 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_187 , 1 bars , 187 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:033

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 968 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 723 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 899 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_347 , 3 bars , 347 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_143 , 1 bars , 143 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 300 pp - U:036

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 616 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 660 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 569 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 11 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 905 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 9 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 580 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_159 , 1 bars , 159 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 312 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 764 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 13 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 556 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_366 , 3 bars , 366 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1168 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1129 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1148 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 27 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 660 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_468 , 4 bars , 468 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 552 pp - U:163

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 997 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 1661 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 37 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 502 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Italy
Killed: INF:314 TNK:56 RCN:21 AT:38 FORT:215 ATY:152 AD:118 FTR:92 TB:43 LB:4 SUB:1 DD:13 BS:5 CV:3 CRs:23 Total: 1098
Lost : INF:5 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:3 SUB:1 DD:6 CRs:2 Total: 28

BV 14
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4198 exp, 174 kill, 1152 pp Average: 600 exp, 25 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4535 exp, 297 kill, 708 pp Average: 648 exp, 42 kill, 101 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1691 exp, 27 kill, 192 pp Average: 846 exp, 14 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1389 exp, 12 kill, 600 pp Average: 463 exp, 4 kill, 200 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 3489 exp, 50 kill, 1440 pp Average: 582 exp, 8 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1686 exp, 26 kill, 828 pp Average: 562 exp, 9 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 6 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4573 exp, 88 kill, 1848 pp Average: 762 exp, 15 kill, 308 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3160 exp, 60 kill, 0 pp Average: 1053 exp, 20 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 37 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 24721 exp, 734 kill, 6768 pp Average: 668 exp, 20 kill, 183 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Italy has 71 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 21
Tank : 9
Recon : 2
Anti-tank : 4
Artillery : 9
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 10
Tactical Bomber : 6
Submarine : 1
Destroyer : 1
Cruiser : 2
Light Cruiser : 2


Player 2 United Kingdom, Greece - estimated force: 97 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 23%
Recon / Tank : 5%
Air Defense / FlaK : 9%
Air : 20%
Naval : 9%
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cmc CC56 @ 0% balkans part 2 BV proto Me210A

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Another relatively easy battle, some difficulty for the Luftwaffe because of the number of enemy aircraft. Air superiority gained by turn 6.
668 to spend in the HQ
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cmc CC56 @ 0% balkans part 3 BV no prototype

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no purchases in HQ

AAR
Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory

..
Current scenario: Byelorussia Part I, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 6768 , Current prestige is 1268
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 35
if BV: +600, Byelorussia Part II , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, Byelorussia Part II , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, Byelorussia Part II , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 864 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 33 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 785 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 38 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 887 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 47 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 815 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_* , 5 bars , 559 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 682 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 24 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_102 , 1 bars , 140 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 228 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1097 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 53 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 822 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 54 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 985 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 61 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 958 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 98 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 629 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 38 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_390 , 4 bars , 405 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 18 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_193 , 2 bars , 263 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:033

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1161 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 778 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 942 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_390 , 3 bars , 390 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_249 , 2 bars , 283 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 300 pp - U:036

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 658 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 714 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 681 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 16 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 987 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 11 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 634 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_224 , 2 bars , 247 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 312 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 862 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 14 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 560 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_390 , 3 bars , 396 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1329 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 22 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1202 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 30 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1229 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 31 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 764 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 552 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_103 , 1 bars , 117 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_0 , 1 bars , 169 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1031 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 1924 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 46 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 587 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:357 TNK:61 RCN:22 AT:38 FORT:250 ATY:170 AD:140 FTR:107 TB:53 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1271
Lost : INF:7 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:10 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 38

BV 16
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4732 exp, 197 kill, 1152 pp Average: 676 exp, 28 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 5159 exp, 333 kill, 708 pp Average: 737 exp, 48 kill, 101 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1939 exp, 31 kill, 192 pp Average: 970 exp, 16 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1615 exp, 13 kill, 600 pp Average: 538 exp, 4 kill, 200 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 3921 exp, 60 kill, 1440 pp Average: 654 exp, 10 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1818 exp, 27 kill, 828 pp Average: 606 exp, 9 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 5362 exp, 104 kill, 1848 pp Average: 766 exp, 15 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3542 exp, 72 kill, 0 pp Average: 1181 exp, 24 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 38 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 28088 exp, 837 kill, 6768 pp Average: 739 exp, 22 kill, 178 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 68 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 17
Tank : 12
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 5
Artillery : 9
Air Defense : 5
Fighter : 11
Tactical Bomber : 6


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 79 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 22%
Recon / Tank : 9%
Air Defense / FlaK : 15%
Air : 5%
Naval : 0%
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part I in HQ

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So I'm in the HQ wondering if its worth spending any of the 1268 prestige points.

When playing at 0% it is vital to spend prestige wisely, here is how i decide.

When faced with a number of new purchase possibilities or potential upgrades i compute a "value for money" metric based on the stats and cost of the
purchases/upgrades. The metric tells me which purchase/upgrade is most cost effective.
I'll demo with a worked example.

I the Current HQ i investigate the relative merits of upgrading my arty units to the 17K18 unit that has become available in the German arsenal

The Metric for Artillery takes into account the following Stats
C Cost in Prestige
A Ammunition
R Range
HA Hard Attack
SA Soft Attack
M Movement of the Arty
MT Movement of its Transport
GD Ground Defence
AD Air Defence
CD Close Defence
I Initiative

I exclude Naval Attack/Air Attack/Ranged Defence.

when comparing purchases:
MetricP = C / (A*(R*R + HA + SA +M +MT+GD +AD +CD +I))


When comparing upgrades from old(o) to new(n)
MetricU = C / (An/Ao * (Rn*Rn - Ro*Ro + HAn -HAo + SAn -SAo +Mn -Mo + GDn-GDo etc))

So I have 4 candidates to consider upgrading to a 17K18 with Truck movement 10.

BR17 with Truck movement 8 cost 0 - a free upgrade
15cm with Truck movement 10 cost 456
A19 with Truck movement 8 cost 396
120mm Mortar Halftrack movement 7 cost 516 (i would keep the half track)

So what are the metric's
BR17
Range 0
Ammo 5 to 6
Initiative +1
HA -2
SA -2
CD +1
MT +2
So thats 6/5 * ( +1-2-2+1+2) = 0 No real improvement hence zero cost

15cm
Range 4 to 5 = +9
Ammo 7 to 6 = 6/7ths
HA +3
SA +4
all others 0
So that's 6/7 * (+9+3+4) = 13.7 An improvement cost per point = 456/13.7 = 33.25

A19
Range 0
Ammo 7 to 6 6/7ths
HA +5
SA +7
CD +1
MT +2
So that's 6/7*(+5+7+1+2) = 12.85 An improvement, cost per point = 396 /12.85 = 30.8 (better value that the 15cm)

120mm
Range 2 to 5 = +21
ammo 10 to 6 6/10ths
HA +10
SA +11
GD -7
AD -2
M -2

so thats 6/10*(+21+10+11-7-2-2) = 18.6 An improvement, cost per point = 516/18.6 = 27.7 (The best value so far)

what about the 120mm mortar to a Lorrain cost 264
Range 2 to 3 +5
Ammo 10 to 5 5/10ths
I +1
M +2
MT -3 (120mm HT goes 7 Lorrain fixed at 4)
HA +5
SA +5
GD -3
AD -3
so that's 5/10*(+1+2-3+5+5-3-3) = 2 An improvement, cost per point = 264/2 = 132 (expensive)

So i will be upgrading the 120mm to a 17K18 but only when it has gained 5 bars of experience something it will do a hell of a lot faster than a new 17K18.

I do the same thing for fighters and tanks, but for fighters i use the square of the Initiative and for tanks i square the Movement.

So in summary i wont be upgrading anything i will be saving prestige and waiting for the Fw190A to come online to upgrade my fleet of Me110C Fighters
Just looking ahead Me110C->Fw190A will cost 402 (cost per point improvement 34.5 , Fw190A3 =38.25, and 109F2=139)
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Re: cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part I in HQ

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cmc wrote: 2022-02-09 16:42, Wednesday When faced with a number of new purchase possibilities or potential upgrades i compute a "value for money" metric based on the stats and cost of the
purchases/upgrades. The metric tells me which purchase/upgrade is most cost effective.
I'll demo with a worked example.

I the Current HQ i investigate the relative merits of upgrading my arty units to the 17K18 unit that has become available in the German arsenal

The Metric for Artillery takes into account the following Stats
C Cost in Prestige
A Ammunition
R Range
HA Hard Attack
SA Soft Attack
M Movement of the Arty
MT Movement of its Transport
GD Ground Defence
AD Air Defence
CD Close Defence
I Initiative

I exclude Naval Attack/Air Attack/Ranged Defence.

when comparing purchases:
MetricP = C / (A*(R*R + HA + SA +M +MT+GD +AD +CD +I))


When comparing upgrades from old(o) to new(n)
MetricU = C / (An/Ao * (Rn*Rn - Ro*Ro + HAn -HAo + SAn -SAo +Mn -Mo + GDn-GDo etc))

So I have 4 candidates to consider upgrading to a 17K18 with Truck movement 10.

BR17 with Truck movement 8 cost 0 - a free upgrade
15cm with Truck movement 10 cost 456
A19 with Truck movement 8 cost 396
120mm Mortar Halftrack movement 7 cost 516 (i would keep the half track)

So what are the metric's
BR17
Range 0
Ammo 5 to 6
Initiative +1
HA -2
SA -2
CD +1
MT +2
So thats 6/5 * ( +1-2-2+1+2) = 0 No real improvement hence zero cost

15cm
Range 4 to 5 = +9
Ammo 7 to 6 = 6/7ths
HA +3
SA +4
all others 0
So that's 6/7 * (+9+3+4) = 13.7 An improvement cost per point = 456/13.7 = 33.25

A19
Range 0
Ammo 7 to 6 6/7ths
HA +5
SA +7
CD +1
MT +2
So that's 6/7*(+5+7+1+2) = 12.85 An improvement, cost per point = 396 /12.85 = 30.8 (better value that the 15cm)

120mm
Range 2 to 5 = +21
ammo 10 to 6 6/10ths
HA +10
SA +11
GD -7
AD -2
M -2

so thats 6/10*(+21+10+11-7-2-2) = 18.6 An improvement, cost per point = 516/18.6 = 27.7 (The best value so far)

what about the 120mm mortar to a Lorrain cost 264
Range 2 to 3 +5
Ammo 10 to 5 5/10ths
I +1
M +2
MT -3 (120mm HT goes 7 Lorrain fixed at 4)
HA +5
SA +5
GD -3
AD -3
so that's 5/10*(+1+2-3+5+5-3-3) = 2 An improvement, cost per point = 264/2 = 132 (expensive)

So i will be upgrading the 120mm to a 17K18 but only when it has gained 5 bars of experience something it will do a hell of a lot faster than a new 17K18.

I do the same thing for fighters and tanks, but for fighters i use the square of the Initiative and for tanks i square the Movement.

So in summary i wont be upgrading anything i will be saving prestige and waiting for the Fw190A to come online to upgrade my fleet of Me110C Fighters
Just looking ahead Me110C->Fw190A will cost 402 (cost per point improvement 34.5 , Fw190A3 =38.25, and 109F2=139)
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part I at turn 5 still fighting

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i appear to have lot my last post :irate

so here goes again

O so i'm 17 scenarios in out of 47 and wondering how big a core to maintain, i currently have 28 ground units and 10 air units.

The remaining scenarios will deliver approx. 38000 prestige points from this i must upgrade and overstrength the existing core
deal with losses and potentially buy any more new units.

So what are the likely costs of upgrading the existing core, this depends on the units and what upgrade path it takes, two key
unit types will be fighters and tanks. I think my existing tanks will go through 3 more upgrades each and my fighters probably 2.
eg

ME110C(468) -> Fw190A1(636 - 468/2) -> Me262A(816 - 636/2) cost 900 for a strength 10 unit or 1350 for a strength 15 unit.
Me110C(468) -> Fw190A3(684 - 234) -> He162A(828 - 342) cost 936 etc

so i will budget 1200 as the cost of maintaining an existing fighter

pzIVD(240) -> PzIVF2(312-120) -> PantherA(468 -156) -> TigerIII(696 - 234) cost 966 for a strength 10 unit or ~1500 for a strength 15 unit
other paths are similar
so i will budget 1300 asthe cost of maintaing an existing tank.

similar process leads to the following budgets

INF 500
Heavy Arty 500
Light/mobile arty 1500
AD 500
TB 500
AT 1000

So to maintain my current 38 units i will need :-
Tanks 7 * 1000 = 7000
Inf 7 * 500 = 3500
FTR 7 * 1200 = 8400
TB 3* 500 = 1500
AD 3 * 500 = 1500
Heavy ARTY 3 * 500 = 1500
Light/mobile Arty 3 * 1500 = 4500
AT 3 * 1000 = 3000
Total = 30900

So that leaves 38000 - 30900 = 7100
to buy and maintain a few more units, but what should they be :dunno
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part I turn 3 purchases

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After my last analysis i think i can add 3 more units to the core these wil be 2 PzIVF1 and another 88+Halftrack.

These will be the last new additions to my core.

remaining prestige will be upgrades and over strengthing.
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part I BV no proto

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first encounter with the soviets and they got a pasting.
bought final core units at turn 3.
used all the turns to try and give them as much experience as possible
they mounted a counterattack at the end.

AAR

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Byelorussia Part II, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 7572 , Current prestige is 1064
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 217
if BV: +600, Byelorussia Part III , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, Byelorussia Part III , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, Byelorussia Part III , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 967 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 35 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 844 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 41 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 912 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 49 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 940 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_* , 5 bars , 559 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 759 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 25 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_140 , 2 bars , 244 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 228 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1117 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 53 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 877 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 60 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1063 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 66 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1075 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 103 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 680 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 43 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_405 , 4 bars , 469 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 27 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_263 , 3 bars , 355 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_0 , 0 bars , 55 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_0 , 1 bars , 108 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:040

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1222 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 19 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 796 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 985 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_390 , 4 bars , 487 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_283 , 3 bars , 381 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_0 , 0 bars , 72 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 710 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 748 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 794 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 17 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1085 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 12 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 654 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_247 , 3 bars , 368 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 312 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 914 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 14 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 617 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_396 , 4 bars , 473 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1414 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 22 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1308 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 31 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1294 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 33 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 867 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 596 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_117 , 2 bars , 263 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_169 , 4 bars , 416 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1071 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2135 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 49 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 699 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:378 TNK:74 RCN:25 AT:42 FORT:268 ATY:178 AD:153 FTR:113 TB:56 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1360
Lost : INF:7 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:10 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 38

BV 17
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 5225 exp, 208 kill, 1152 pp Average: 746 exp, 30 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 9 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 5799 exp, 371 kill, 1212 pp Average: 644 exp, 41 kill, 135 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2018 exp, 33 kill, 192 pp Average: 1009 exp, 17 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1925 exp, 16 kill, 900 pp Average: 481 exp, 4 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 4359 exp, 64 kill, 1440 pp Average: 727 exp, 11 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2004 exp, 27 kill, 828 pp Average: 668 exp, 9 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 6158 exp, 110 kill, 1848 pp Average: 880 exp, 16 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3905 exp, 77 kill, 0 pp Average: 1302 exp, 26 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 41 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 31393 exp, 906 kill, 7572 pp Average: 766 exp, 22 kill, 185 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 66 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 13
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 7
Artillery : 10
Air Defense : 5
Fighter : 7
Tactical Bomber : 3


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 88 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 27%
Recon / Tank : 14%
Air Defense / FlaK : 12%
Air : 7%
Naval : 0%
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part II BV proto PzIIIJ2

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Deployment Area is in Heavy ARty Range, had to restart as deployment was not optimal, could not reduce the enemy arty on the first round lost core units so i restarted with a better deployment.

regretting not having a recon leader spotting range limited to +4 making it difficult to locate a silence enemy Arty and AD, made worse in this scenario as i had become used to relegating Aux fighters to spotting role. No Aux Luftwaffe in this scenario.

Used All the turns.

AAR :-


OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2

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Current scenario: Byelorussia Part III, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 7572 , Current prestige is 1664
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 227
if BV: +600, The Pocket Of Kiev , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, The Pocket Of Kiev , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, The Pocket Of Kiev , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1031 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 37 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 928 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 45 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 979 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 52 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 944 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 27 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_* , 5 bars , 580 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 813 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 28 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_244 , 3 bars , 343 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 228 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1181 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 58 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1001 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 68 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1107 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 70 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1136 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 108 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 767 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 47 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_469 , 5 bars , 574 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 30 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_355 , 4 bars , 429 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_55 , 1 bars , 123 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_108 , 1 bars , 152 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1257 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 20 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 847 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 985 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_487 , 5 bars , 605 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_381 , 5 bars , 528 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_72 , 1 bars , 158 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 750 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 814 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 906 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 19 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1150 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 14 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 671 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_368 , 4 bars , 432 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 312 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1060 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 15 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 634 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_473 , 5 bars , 552 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1567 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1483 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 33 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1435 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 36 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 965 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 751 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_263 , 3 bars , 380 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_416 , 4 bars , 496 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1184 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2298 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 55 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 796 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:412 TNK:87 RCN:27 AT:46 FORT:278 ATY:194 AD:166 FTR:117 TB:60 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1460
Lost : INF:7 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:10 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 38

BV 18
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 5618 exp, 221 kill, 1152 pp Average: 803 exp, 32 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 6470 exp, 409 kill, 1212 pp Average: 647 exp, 41 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2104 exp, 34 kill, 192 pp Average: 1052 exp, 17 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2276 exp, 21 kill, 900 pp Average: 569 exp, 5 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 4723 exp, 69 kill, 1440 pp Average: 787 exp, 12 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2246 exp, 29 kill, 828 pp Average: 749 exp, 10 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 7077 exp, 126 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1011 exp, 18 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4278 exp, 84 kill, 0 pp Average: 1426 exp, 28 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 42 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 34792 exp, 993 kill, 7572 pp Average: 828 exp, 24 kill, 180 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 58 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 11
Tank : 13
Recon : 3
Anti-tank : 6
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 4
Fighter : 9
Tactical Bomber : 4


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 84 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 6%
Recon / Tank : 22%
Air Defense / FlaK : 14%
Air : 8%
Naval : 0%
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cmc CC56 @ 0% Byelorussia Part III BV no proto

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Enemy troops are now becoming experienced over strengthed and what looks like ever increasing levels of entrenchment!

Had to restart twice, enemy has vast array of long range arty bearing down on the deployment zones, took too many losses on key equipment.
Final solution was to group all my artillery into the southern deployment area, focusing it there allowed the southern enemy guns to be silenced in the first round. Northern aux and core units that were in range of the northern enemy guns were pulled back out of range.

Enemy has started to deploy adjacent heavy guns protected by adjacent AD, these can only be attacked with long range arty which is in short supply, i only have 3 long range guns.

Now in HQ considering if any of the new equipment that has become available is worth upgrading to, FW190 are on the cards but the AAR suggest Kiev has few defending aircraft.

Used all the turns to put some experience on my untrained units.


AAR
OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2
19 Byelorussia Part III , #18 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: The Pocket Of Kiev, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 7572 , Current prestige is 2264
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 229
if BV: +600, Towards Moscow Part I , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if V : +400, Towards Moscow Part I , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +200, Towards Moscow Part I , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, Winter Defense , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1069 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 39 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 1039 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 48 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 1035 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 56 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 978 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 28 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Infanterie , IF3_* , 5 bars , 611 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 24 kill , 228 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 925 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 31 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Infanterie , IF3_343 , 3 bars , 388 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 228 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1195 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 58 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1035 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 70 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1162 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 71 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1249 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 111 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 830 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 54 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 648 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 31 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_429 , 5 bars , 515 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_123 , 2 bars , 274 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_152 , 2 bars , 245 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , 3J2_0 , 1 bars , 141 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1269 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 938 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_CS* , 5 bars , 1061 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 691 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 667 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_158 , 2 bars , 240 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 789 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 853 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 1007 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 22 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1247 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 16 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 723 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 324 pp - U:023
120mm Mortar , SdkFz 251/1 , 120HT7_432 , 4 bars , 492 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1142 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 15 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 679 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 574 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1672 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1580 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 33 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1533 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 37 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1026 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 838 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_380 , 4 bars , 464 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_496 , 5 bars , 600 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1292 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2447 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 59 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 881 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 19 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany, Italy
Killed: INF:427 TNK:106 RCN:30 AT:49 FORT:294 ATY:210 AD:180 FTR:121 TB:64 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1554
Lost : INF:7 TNK:1 RCN:2 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:10 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 38

BV 19
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 6045 exp, 238 kill, 1152 pp Average: 864 exp, 34 kill, 165 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 7294 exp, 452 kill, 1212 pp Average: 729 exp, 45 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2207 exp, 38 kill, 192 pp Average: 1104 exp, 19 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2659 exp, 23 kill, 900 pp Average: 665 exp, 6 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 5111 exp, 76 kill, 1440 pp Average: 852 exp, 13 kill, 240 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2395 exp, 30 kill, 828 pp Average: 798 exp, 10 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 7713 exp, 134 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1102 exp, 19 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4620 exp, 90 kill, 0 pp Average: 1540 exp, 30 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 42 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 38044 exp, 1081 kill, 7572 pp Average: 906 exp, 26 kill, 180 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany, Italy has 89 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 21
Tank : 19
Recon : 5
Anti-tank : 12
Artillery : 13
Air Defense : 6
Fighter : 9
Tactical Bomber : 4


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 101 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 24%
Recon / Tank : 10%
Air Defense / FlaK : 13%
Air : 1%
Naval : 0%
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I had been saving prestige to upgrade my 110C to FW190A1's but as there is no soviet air threat (according to the AAR enemy estimates) i will delay this until an air threat emerges, i might go directly to the FW190A3's which has slightly better stats.

Lack of Heavy artillery forces me to upgrade my 120mm Mortar to 17K18 retaining its Half track at a cost of 516 (needs must)

I see 88AT Half Track is a free upgrade to 88 Sdkf2, sdkf2 has the same movement stats as the Halftrack, sdkf2 has a -2 ground defence
and there would be an initiative penalty for movement into combat, but not for my combat support leader. Non leader 88's will not be ugpraded .

I will also upgrade 2 sets of foot infantry to Jaeger units at a cost of 168 per unit.

The one unit that is crying out for a upgrade is the KV1
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A right old slogging match!

All turns used.

May core units took casualties but none were lost.

Armor is starting to become outclassed by increasing soviet strength/experience and entrenchment levels

When will new Armor come online.

Had to buy a 231 recon during the game, left behind a enemy supply hex which spawned 2 sets on enemy infantry which threatened to capture unguarded VH's

will probably sell it back

licking my wounds and considering what if anything to upgrade

AAR
OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2
19 Byelorussia Part III , #18 , Brilliant Victory
20 The Pocket Of Kiev , #19 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1

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Current scenario: Towards Moscow Part I, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 8268 , Current prestige is 1820
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 135
if BV: +800, Towards Moscow Part II , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0
if V : +600, Towards Moscow Part II , cap disabled, 16 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Towards Moscow Part II , cap disabled, 17 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1130 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 40 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 1140 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 52 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 1105 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 61 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 1059 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 29 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 674 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 276 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 977 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 32 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Jaeger , MF4_447 , 4 bars , 447 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 16 kill , 276 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1276 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 59 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1053 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 72 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1186 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 72 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1321 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 114 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 876 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 56 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 720 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 33 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_* , 5 bars , 646 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 27 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_394 , 3 bars , 394 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_332 , 3 bars , 332 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , 3J2_284 , 2 bars , 284 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1337 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 23 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 987 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 192 pp - U:026
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 192 pp - U:043

Anti-tank
* 88mm SdKfz 8 , 88SHT7_CS* , 5 bars , 1174 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 771 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 702 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_413 , 4 bars , 413 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 856 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 919 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 1132 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 25 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1372 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 18 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 786 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 324 pp - U:023
17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_* , 5 bars , 534 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 2 kill , 720 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1274 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 16 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 781 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 639 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1732 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1647 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 34 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1594 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 37 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1137 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 913 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_* , 5 bars , 534 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_* , 5 bars , 752 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1345 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2583 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 61 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 955 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 20 kill , 0 pp - U:028
+ Me-210A-1 , 210ATB_0 , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:044

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:449 TNK:117 RCN:31 AT:57 FORT:314 ATY:231 AD:195 FTR:123 TB:64 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1654
Lost : INF:15 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:11 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 50

BV 20
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 6532 exp, 256 kill, 1248 pp Average: 933 exp, 37 kill, 178 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 8088 exp, 478 kill, 1212 pp Average: 809 exp, 48 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2324 exp, 41 kill, 384 pp Average: 775 exp, 14 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3060 exp, 28 kill, 900 pp Average: 765 exp, 7 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 5599 exp, 85 kill, 1848 pp Average: 933 exp, 14 kill, 308 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2694 exp, 33 kill, 828 pp Average: 898 exp, 11 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 8309 exp, 140 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1187 exp, 20 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4883 exp, 94 kill, 0 pp Average: 1221 exp, 24 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 44 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 41489 exp, 1155 kill, 8268 pp Average: 943 exp, 26 kill, 188 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 52 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 10
Tank : 11
Recon : 4
Anti-tank : 6
Artillery : 7
Air Defense : 3
Fighter : 7
Tactical Bomber : 4


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 100 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 31%
Recon / Tank : 8%
Air Defense / FlaK : 12%
Air : 5%
Naval : 0%
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did not upgrade any units in the HQ
Another tough battle, few resources and 25 VH to take and hold.

Now have 2812 prestige points. There does not appear to be a deployment airfield which can only make things harder. Its snowing, maybe i need to upgrade some of my truck transport to half tracks.

With no airfield and snow again there seems little point in upgrading my Me110 fighters to FW190A's

All units are now fully trained except the last prototype Me210A TB that now has 2 bars experience.

AAR
Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2
19 Byelorussia Part III , #18 , Brilliant Victory
20 The Pocket Of Kiev , #19 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
21 Towards Moscow Part I , #20 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Towards Moscow Part II, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 8076 , Current prestige is 2812
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 125
if BV: +800, Battle For The Kremlin , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if V : +600, Battle For The Kremlin , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Battle For The Kremlin , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, Kharkov 1942 , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1250 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 45 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_* , 5 bars , 1254 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 57 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , Truck , ST10_OA* , 5 bars , 1149 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 64 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 1138 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 33 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 749 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 29 kill , 276 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 1101 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 33 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Jaeger , MF4_447 , 5 bars , 538 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 276 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1434 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 62 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1114 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 77 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1287 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 79 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1404 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 116 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 909 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 58 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 803 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 33 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_* , 5 bars , 728 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 30 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_394 , 4 bars , 461 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 24 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_332 , 4 bars , 430 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 14 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , 3J2_284 , 4 bars , 405 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* PSW 263 , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1472 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:006
PSW 231 , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 1192 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 19 kill , 192 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 88mm SdKfz 8 , 88SHT7_CS* , 5 bars , 1235 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 897 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 780 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_413 , 5 bars , 500 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 896 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 210mm BR-17 , Gruzovik , Br17T8_SF* , 5 bars , 969 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 1294 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 28 kill , 480 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1505 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 18 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 824 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 324 pp - U:023
17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_* , 5 bars , 605 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 720 pp - U:035

Air Defense
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1435 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 17 kill , 276 pp - U:018
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 885 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 276 pp - U:024
37mm FlaK 36 , SdkFz 251/1 , 37HT7_* , 5 bars , 673 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 276 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1869 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 27 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1815 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 35 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1711 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 39 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1292 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 13 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1061 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_* , 5 bars , 632 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_* , 5 bars , 936 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1398 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2835 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 67 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 1051 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:028
+ Me-210A-1 , 210ATB_0 , 2 bars , 202 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:043

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:476 TNK:125 RCN:32 AT:63 FORT:333 ATY:247 AD:208 FTR:127 TB:66 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1750
Lost : INF:16 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:11 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 51

BV 21
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 7179 exp, 282 kill, 1248 pp Average: 1026 exp, 40 kill, 178 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 8975 exp, 506 kill, 1212 pp Average: 898 exp, 51 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2664 exp, 44 kill, 192 pp Average: 1332 exp, 22 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3412 exp, 31 kill, 900 pp Average: 853 exp, 8 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 6093 exp, 91 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1016 exp, 15 kill, 308 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2993 exp, 35 kill, 828 pp Average: 998 exp, 12 kill, 276 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 9316 exp, 147 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1331 exp, 21 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 5486 exp, 104 kill, 0 pp Average: 1372 exp, 26 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 43 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 46118 exp, 1240 kill, 8076 pp Average: 1073 exp, 29 kill, 188 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 69 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 15
Tank : 14
Recon : 4
Anti-tank : 6
Artillery : 10
Air Defense : 5
Fighter : 9
Tactical Bomber : 6


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 91 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 27%
Recon / Tank : 14%
Air Defense / FlaK : 9%
Air : 7%
Naval : 0%
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by far the hardest scenario so far and thus the most enjoyable - weeks of effort!
3 restarts were required before i could get a BV.

i abandoned the first attempt on turn 2 after realising i had a poor deployment.
2nd attempt went on to turn 10/11 before i finally accepted that a BV would be impossible.

initially i did very few alterations in HQ, put the engineers in half tracks and upgraded the AD that was about it.

The 3rd run i realised i did not have enough firepower so i spent quite a bit.
upgrade engineer transport to halftracks
upgraded the BR17 to 17K18 in halftrack and over strength to 15 (BR17 poor truck in snow just couldn't keep up)
A19 over strength to 15.
upgraded both 231/263 recon to 251/9 7.5cm less movement but range 2 guns (needed the firepower)

over strength my DF leader JU88 to +15

all 3 flk 37's were upgraded the leader to a mobile sdk62 the other 2 to flk88 in half tracks.

that left me with 677

AT about turn 6 i came up with the idea of temporary units. Basically i cant affort to add any more core units, all remaining prestige is required for upgrades and over strengthing, so the last few scenarios ive been saving prestige waiting for new equipment to arrive. During this scenario i realised i could spend it all on units that would not be part of the core, ie when i need the cash i just sell them back. So i just need to be careful not to loose any on them. When it started to get a dodgy around turn 6 i bought a Do217 TB by then i had air superiority.

I made 2 tactical errors on the 2nd run, the Aux army in the north west engaged too early and got beat up and bogged down i the forest. On the 2nd run all the aux units stayed on the edge of the forest basically close to their starting positions except the forest mobile infantry which proceeded eastward along the top of the map out of range of the enemy arty. I also deployed my 2 sets of core jaegers along this route. Their targets were the VH airfield and enemy supply points in the far north east of the map, On the 2nd run i did not get close to any of these objectives.

The 2nd error was to use my airborne jagdkommandoes as infantry, they got bogged down fighting for Tula, long after i had captured the airfield in the south with my jaegers!. On the third run i captured the airfield with the jagKommandoes which then deployed from it to help capture the eastern VH's via airborne assault.

A very enjoyable scenario.

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OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\efile_cc56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2
19 Byelorussia Part III , #18 , Brilliant Victory
20 The Pocket Of Kiev , #19 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
21 Towards Moscow Part I , #20 , Brilliant Victory
22 Towards Moscow Part II , #21 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Fw-189 Uhu

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Current scenario: Battle For The Kremlin, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 9240 , Current prestige is 853
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 67
if BV: +800, Winter Defense , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if V : +600, Winter Defense , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Winter Defense , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, The Don Basin , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1293 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 45 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , SdkFz 251/1 , SHT7_* , 5 bars , 1318 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 59 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , SdkFz 251/1 , SHT7_OA* , 5 bars , 1281 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 70 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 1264 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 36 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 787 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 31 kill , 276 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 1126 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 35 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 576 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 276 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1549 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 64 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1221 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 80 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1392 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 82 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1487 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 122 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 991 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 62 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 886 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 37 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_* , 5 bars , 788 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 30 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_461 , 5 bars , 571 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 28 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_430 , 5 bars , 543 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , 3J2_405 , 5 bars , 518 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 19 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* SdkFz 251/9 7.5cm , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1612 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 25 kill , 0 pp - U:006
SdkFz 251/9 7.5cm , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 1306 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 20 kill , 312 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 88mm SdKfz 8 , 88SHT7_CS* , 5 bars , 1344 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 14 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 1028 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 839 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 630 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 5 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 985 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 17 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_SF* , 5 bars , 1059 exp , Waffen SS , 15/10 , Street Fighter , 19 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 1509 exp , Russia , 15/10 , Devastating Fire , 34 kill , 720 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1622 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 19 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 862 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 324 pp - U:023
17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_* , 5 bars , 683 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 3 kill , 720 pp - U:035

Air Defense
SdKfz 6/2 , Ad62HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1444 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 17 kill , 216 pp - U:018
88mm FlaK 37 , SdkFz 251/1 , 88AdHT7_* , 5 bars , 938 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 7 kill , 396 pp - U:024
88mm FlaK 37 , SdkFz 251/1 , 88Ad7HT7_* , 5 bars , 740 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 11 kill , 396 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 1926 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 29 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 1918 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 35 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1817 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 41 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1404 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1167 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_* , 5 bars , 681 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_* , 5 bars , 1012 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1472 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 2962 exp , Waffen SS , 15/10 , Devastating Fire , 69 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 1103 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:028
+ Me-210A-1 , 210ATB_202 , 3 bars , 302 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:043
Do-217E-2 , , 0 bars , 72 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 624 pp - U:044
+ Fw-189 Uhu , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:045

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:493 TNK:138 RCN:34 AT:69 FORT:349 ATY:262 AD:216 FTR:133 TB:68 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1835
Lost : INF:16 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:12 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 52

BV 22
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 7645 exp, 298 kill, 1248 pp Average: 1092 exp, 43 kill, 178 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 9946 exp, 539 kill, 1212 pp Average: 995 exp, 54 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2918 exp, 45 kill, 312 pp Average: 1459 exp, 23 kill, 156 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3841 exp, 33 kill, 900 pp Average: 960 exp, 8 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 6720 exp, 102 kill, 2088 pp Average: 1120 exp, 17 kill, 348 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3122 exp, 35 kill, 1008 pp Average: 1041 exp, 12 kill, 336 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 9925 exp, 156 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1418 exp, 22 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 6 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 5911 exp, 107 kill, 624 pp Average: 985 exp, 18 kill, 104 pp
* Summary: * 45 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 50028 exp, 1315 kill, 9240 pp Average: 1112 exp, 29 kill, 205 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 74 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 14
Tank : 14
Recon : 4
Anti-tank : 8
Artillery : 12
Air Defense : 5
Fighter : 9
Tactical Bomber : 8


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 105 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 37%
Recon / Tank : 4%
Air Defense / FlaK : 12%
Air : 0%
Naval : 0%
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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Really nice reports.
I can recommend purchasing Italian AA 90mm.Superb units with all terrain movement, and powerful enough to be effective through whole campaign.You are gonna need it!They first appear in Kiev, and you should consider reloading it as they will save you from a lot of pain later.
Another great Italian unit that you could have soon is LV with 15 naval attack.
Also more AT Sdkfz 88mm, as they are cheap and have 2 range.Later you can easily upgrade them to better units and retain valuable experience.
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Re: cmc attempts CC56 @ 0%

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cmc has started a very interesting experiment here. However, I think he aborted it because he has not been active since March 2022.
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
Completed CCCs: #8
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cmc CC56 @ 0% the battle standard has been raised again

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After A long rest i decided to raise the tattered battle standard once again and continue where i left off back in 2022

looking back at the saved games it appears i was in the throws of scenario 23 Battle for the kremlin i was 3 turns in when i paused playing.
I will restart the scenario and get reacquainted to my battle groups capabilities
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cmc CC56 @ 0% battle for the kremlin

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battle for the kremlin BV in turn 12.

an attritional slogging match, snow negated my air superiority even when it was clear the network of enemy
AD made air attacks difficult. Massed Enemt Arty was deadly and i couldnt out range it,
final soulton was to concentrate my arty and move 3 or 4 units together with my KV tank in the lead.
KV took a battering but its high GD enabled it to survive.
JagdKommand unts were airdropped in the far northeast first eliminating the enemy supply hex and the taking the
NorthEast VH's and airfield. The airfield was then used to reembark them for the final assult on the eastern
victory hexes.

luckily there was plenty of Aux inf available, my armour was ineffective in the moscow city terrain.
might need to consider more inf units, 7 might not be enough!, after reading my past posts again it looks like
7 inf units will have to do, unless i sell prototypes!

No prototype.
2222 prestige available

upgrade coniderations:-
SS Inf i Truck to SS Grenadiers in HT cost 348
Arty A19 T8 to 17K18 in HT cost 738 - next scenario the poor mobility of the A19 in ice conditions makes it useless
KV1 to Captured T34! cost 156, it has the same GD of 13 but 6 movement as opposed to 4

that leaves me with 980

AAR
OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\OpenGeneral\EFILE_CC56\ * Efile version: CC56-In the Line of Fire with Special Countries (Bigi) Efile
Campaign: THE WAFFEN SS IN THE LINE OF FIRE, * Player prestige modifier 0% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Storming The Republicans , #0 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: 21cm M18
2 Fall Weiss , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 To Warsaw , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Seizing Trondheim , #3 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
5 Crisis At Narvik , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 The Ardennes Offensive , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 Holland In Sight , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Breakout Of France , #7 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Ju-88A-4
9 "Will To Resist" , #8 , Brilliant Victory
10 Fortress Gibraltar , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11 Sealion Part I , #10 , Brilliant Victory
12 Sealion Part II , #11 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Sturmtruppen 40
13 Battle For London , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Seizing Balkans Part I , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15 Seizing Balkans Part II , #14 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
16 Seizing Balkans Part III , #15 , Brilliant Victory
17 Byelorussia Part I , #16 , Brilliant Victory
18 Byelorussia Part II , #17 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Pz IIIJ2
19 Byelorussia Part III , #18 , Brilliant Victory
20 The Pocket Of Kiev , #19 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Me-210A-1
21 Towards Moscow Part I , #20 , Brilliant Victory
22 Towards Moscow Part II , #21 , Brilliant Victory +++ Proto: Fw-189 Uhu
23 Battle For The Kremlin , #22 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Winter Defense, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 8616 , Current prestige is 2222
AI stance is Aggressive Using map: 121
if BV: +800, Kharkov 1942 , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
if V : +600, Kharkov 1942 , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +400, Kharkov 1942 , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +0, The Majkop Oilfields , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Jagdkommando , JF3_SF* , 5 bars , 1321 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 47 kill , 348 pp - U:002
* Sturmpioniere , SdkFz 251/1 , SHT7_* , 5 bars , 1388 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 64 kill , 0 pp - U:009
* Sturmpioniere , SdkFz 251/1 , SHT7_OA* , 5 bars , 1338 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 72 kill , 0 pp - U:010
* Infanterie , Truck , IT10_* , 5 bars , 1333 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 37 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 895 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 32 kill , 276 pp - U:021
Jagdkommando , JF3_AA* , 5 bars , 1195 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 35 kill , 348 pp - U:022
Jaeger , MF4_* , 5 bars , 670 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 276 pp - U:034

Tank
* KV-1 , KV1_* , 5 bars , 1569 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 65 kill , 0 pp - U:004
* BT-5A , BT5A_* , 5 bars , 1255 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 83 kill , 0 pp - U:005
BT-5A , BT5A_R* , 5 bars , 1499 exp , Russia , 10/10 , Resilience , 83 kill , 228 pp - U:017
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_FD* , 5 bars , 1536 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 123 kill , 0 pp - U:020
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 1016 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 63 kill , 240 pp - U:027
Pz IVD , IVD_* , 5 bars , 916 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 38 kill , 240 pp - U:031
+ Sturmtruppen 40 , S40_* , 5 bars , 890 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 31 kill , 0 pp - U:033
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_* , 5 bars , 629 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 32 kill , 252 pp - U:039
Pz IVF1 , IVF1_* , 5 bars , 605 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 16 kill , 252 pp - U:040
+ Pz IIIJ2 , 3J2_* , 5 bars , 541 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:042

Recon
* SdkFz 251/9 7.5cm , 263T12_* , 5 bars , 1713 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:006
SdkFz 251/9 7.5cm , 231T10_* , 5 bars , 1337 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 22 kill , 312 pp - U:026

Anti-tank
* 88mm SdKfz 8 , 88SHT7_CS* , 5 bars , 1371 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:014
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 1141 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 300 pp - U:032
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 952 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 300 pp - U:036
8.8 FK18 ATG , SdkFz 251/1 , 88HT7_* , 5 bars , 733 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 6 kill , 300 pp - U:041

Artillery
* 15cm Regiment , Truck , 15T10_IT* , 5 bars , 1017 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 19 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* 17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_SF* , 5 bars , 1159 exp , Waffen SS , 15/10 , Street Fighter , 22 kill , 0 pp - U:013
122mm A-19 , Gruzovik , A19T8_DF* , 5 bars , 1655 exp , Russia , 15/10 , Devastating Fire , 37 kill , 720 pp - U:016
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1739 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 20 kill , 324 pp - U:019
15 NbWf41 , SdkFz 251/1 , NbHT7_* , 5 bars , 911 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 324 pp - U:023
17 K18 , SdkFz 251/1 , 17K18HT7_* , 5 bars , 726 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 4 kill , 720 pp - U:035

Air Defense
SdKfz 6/2 , Ad62HT7_DF* , 5 bars , 1444 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 17 kill , 216 pp - U:018
88mm FlaK 37 , SdkFz 251/1 , 88AdHT7_* , 5 bars , 944 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 8 kill , 396 pp - U:024
88mm FlaK 37 , SdkFz 251/1 , 88Ad7HT7_* , 5 bars , 761 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 12 kill , 396 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_AA* , 5 bars , 2054 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 30 kill , 0 pp - U:001
* Me-110C-1 , 110CF_BI* , 5 bars , 2003 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 35 kill , 0 pp - U:008
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1892 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 41 kill , 432 pp - U:015
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1494 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 15 kill , 432 pp - U:025
Me-110C-1 , 110CF_* , 5 bars , 1211 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 17 kill , 432 pp - U:030
Me-109F-1 , 109F_* , 5 bars , 743 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 9 kill , 552 pp - U:037
+ Me-210A-1 , 210A_* , 5 bars , 1089 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Tactical Bomber
* Me-110C-1 , 110TB_CS* , 5 bars , 1472 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , Combat Support , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:003
* Ju-88A-4 , 88A_DF* , 5 bars , 3152 exp , Waffen SS , 15/10 , Devastating Fire , 74 kill , 0 pp - U:007
+ Ju-88A-4 , 88A_* , 5 bars , 1186 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:028
+ Me-210A-1 , 210ATB_374 , 3 bars , 374 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:043
+ Fw-189 Uhu , Fw189_101 , 1 bars , 101 exp , Waffen SS , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:044

Player 1 : Waffen SS, Germany
Killed: INF:529 TNK:140 RCN:35 AT:73 FORT:365 ATY:282 AD:228 FTR:133 TB:68 LB:4 SUB:2 DD:19 BS:6 CV:5 CRs:37 Total: 1926
Lost : INF:16 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 ATY:4 AD:1 FTR:12 TB:4 SUB:1 DD:7 CRs:2 Total: 54

BV 23
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 8140 exp, 313 kill, 1248 pp Average: 1163 exp, 45 kill, 178 pp
Tank * 10 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 10456 exp, 555 kill, 1212 pp Average: 1046 exp, 56 kill, 121 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 3050 exp, 48 kill, 312 pp Average: 1525 exp, 24 kill, 156 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 4197 exp, 37 kill, 900 pp Average: 1049 exp, 9 kill, 225 pp
Artillery * 6 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 7207 exp, 112 kill, 2088 pp Average: 1201 exp, 19 kill, 348 pp
Air Defense * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3149 exp, 37 kill, 1008 pp Average: 1050 exp, 12 kill, 336 pp
Fighter * 7 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 10486 exp, 157 kill, 1848 pp Average: 1498 exp, 22 kill, 264 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 6285 exp, 112 kill, 0 pp Average: 1257 exp, 22 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 44 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 52970 exp, 1371 kill, 8616 pp Average: 1204 exp, 31 kill, 196 pp


Player 1 Waffen SS, Germany has 74 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 10
Recon : 2
Anti-tank : 9
Fortification : 9
Artillery : 8
Air Defense : 6
Fighter : 7
Tactical Bomber : 5


Player 2 Russia - estimated force: 70 units
Infantry / Anti-tank : 35%
Recon / Tank : 26%
Air Defense / FlaK : 5%
Air : 6%
Naval : 0%
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