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CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-02 02:45, Thursday

The Spanish Civil War. I feel slightly funny about playing a campaign as the Franquistas, but the only Spanish Republican campaign isn't an official Campaign Challenge file.

I lost the first scenario with a mixed-arms force, but the second time was able to squeak a TV with arty and infantry alone:

OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Tactical Victory

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Current scenario: Alcazar de Toledo, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 800
Army cost: 924 , Current prestige is 196
Prestige available on map yet is 720 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 7
AI stance is Aggressive Using map: 899
if BV: +100, Marcha hacia Madrid , cap disabled, 5 turns prestige: 300
if V : +100, Marcha hacia Madrid , cap disabled, 6 turns prestige: 300
if TV: +100, Marcha hacia Madrid , cap disabled, 7 turns prestige: 300
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 300

Infantry
Regulares , , 0 bars , 26 exp , Nationalist Spain , 6/10 , 3 kill , 108 pp - U:027
Requetes , , 0 bars , 44 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 3 kill , 84 pp - U:028
Requetes , , 0 bars , 17 exp , Nationalist Spain , 6/10 , 1 kill , 84 pp - U:029

Artillery
155mm M.17 , Ceriano 50cm , , 0 bars , 30 exp , Nationalist Spain , 6/10 , 0 kill , 648 pp - U:026

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:5 RCN:1 AT:1 ATY:2 Total: 9
Lost : Total: 0

BV 0
V 0
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 87 exp, 7 kill, 276 pp Average: 29 exp, 2 kill, 92 pp
Artillery * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 30 exp, 0 kill, 648 pp Average: 30 exp, 0 kill, 648 pp
* Summary: * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 117 exp, 7 kill, 924 pp Average: 29 exp, 2 kill, 231 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain has 5 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 4
Artillery : 1

Player 2 Republican Spain has 15 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 8
Anti-tank : 5
Artillery : 1
Fighter : 1


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-02 03:27, Thursday

Two failures in a row on Scenario 2. The first time with cheap infantry and two weak tanks; this second time with a slightly different mix, but not much better performance. I still had two VH's to capture, with plenty of enemy units left on the board. Next time, perhaps!

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OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Tactical Victory
2 Marcha hacia Madrid , #1 , Loss

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Current scenario: Marcha hacia Madrid, VH prestige is 80 , All map prestige is: 600
Army cost: 1212 , Current prestige is 128
Prestige available on map yet is 200 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 13
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 899
if BV: +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 9 turns prestige: 0
if V : +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Regulares , , 0 bars , 98 exp , Nationalist Spain , 3/10 , 6 kill , 108 pp - U:002
Requetes , , 0 bars , 88 exp , Nationalist Spain , 4/10 , 5 kill , 84 pp - U:003
Requetes , , 0 bars , 34 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 2 kill , 84 pp - U:004
Infanteria FET , , 0 bars , 72 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 3 kill , 84 pp - U:032

Tank
Trubia A4 , , 0 bars , 67 exp , Nationalist Spain , 2/10 , 4 kill , 204 pp - U:031

Artillery
155mm M.17 , Ceriano 50cm , , 0 bars , 84 exp , Nationalist Spain , 8/10 , 2 kill , 648 pp - U:001

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:15 RCN:2 AT:4 ATY:5 Total: 26
Lost : Total: 0

BV 0
V 0
TV 1
L 1

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 292 exp, 16 kill, 360 pp Average: 73 exp, 4 kill, 90 pp
Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 67 exp, 4 kill, 204 pp Average: 67 exp, 4 kill, 204 pp
Artillery * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 84 exp, 2 kill, 648 pp Average: 84 exp, 2 kill, 648 pp
* Summary: * 6 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 443 exp, 22 kill, 1212 pp Average: 74 exp, 4 kill, 202 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain has 8 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 5
Tank : 1
Artillery : 1
Fighter : 1

Player 2 Republican Spain has 7 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 3
Anti-tank : 3
Fighter : 1


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by Parabellum » 2023-02-02 08:04, Thursday

:howdy
For a newcomer, this is not a good campaign. You should choose another one or play with much higher prestige level (at least 200% or higher).
From my experience with this campaign I can say that the first scenarios are very, very hard and you can be satisfied if you reach a TV.
In the third scenario you can buy German units, which are much better than the Spanish ones - only then the campaign becomes playable. See my AAR:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=621
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
Completed CCCs: #8

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-02 16:40, Thursday

Thanks -- it's good to know that I wasn't the only one who had trouble with it! I particularly agree with the comment you made there that the infantry combats are like "throwing cotton balls at each other" -- they really do exceptionally little damage.
Following the example army composition in your 200% playthrough, I managed to beat the first two scenarios at 100%:

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OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Victory
2 Marcha hacia Madrid , #1 , Tactical Victory

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Current scenario: Marcha hacia Madrid, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 240
Army cost: 1176 , Current prestige is 20
Prestige available on map yet is 240 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 12
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 899
if BV: +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 9 turns prestige: 0
if V : +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, Batalla de Madrid , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 1 bars , 120 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 7 kill , 192 pp - U:003
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 1 bars , 120 exp , Nationalist Spain , 6/10 , 7 kill , 192 pp - U:004
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 0 bars , 96 exp , Nationalist Spain , 7/10 , 4 kill , 192 pp - U:032

Recon
UNL 35 , , 1 bars , 145 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 12 kill , 264 pp - U:005

Artillery
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 1 bars , 135 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 0 kill , 168 pp - U:001
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 1 bars , 101 exp , Nationalist Spain , 9/10 , 0 kill , 168 pp - U:002

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:19 RCN:2 AT:5 ATY:4 Total: 30
Lost : INF:1 Total: 1

BV 0
V 1
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 336 exp, 18 kill, 576 pp Average: 112 exp, 6 kill, 192 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 145 exp, 12 kill, 264 pp Average: 145 exp, 12 kill, 264 pp
Artillery * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 236 exp, 0 kill, 336 pp Average: 118 exp, 0 kill, 168 pp
* Summary: * 6 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 717 exp, 30 kill, 1176 pp Average: 120 exp, 5 kill, 196 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain has 7 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 3
Recon : 1
Artillery : 2
Fighter : 1

Player 2 Republican Spain has 4 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 1
Anti-tank : 2
Fighter : 1


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-02 17:15, Thursday

Just like in CC 74, I'm encountering a serious bug -- either with OpenGeneral or the Campaign files (I'm not sure which). Specifically: there are units off the visible edge of the mapboard! Units in parts of the map that I can't scroll to or see, but that show up on the HQ screen. For example, the two screenshots below show (1) that I have numerous air units in my forces, but (2) that there are no air units anywhere on the visible map. One infantry unit started on a half-hex at the very bottom of the map -- it was unselectable (though half-visible) from the map screen, but I could select it from the HQ menu via "Go To Unit." Even that doesn't work for the air units, nor for some of the other AUX infantry units listed in HQ.

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-04 03:53, Saturday

The solution seems to be to use the image-based maps, rather than the tileset maps (which I was set up to use, by default). Seems a bit tougher to interpret what's going on, but it at least makes the scenario playable.

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by sympatyk » 2023-02-04 08:29, Saturday

:howdy
If you want to know exactly what terrain each hex represents --> turn on the "L" key --> If it interferes with the game --> replace the hex_text.png file (so that it contains small symbols) --> you can download from me -->
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vz_cA8 ... sp=sharing

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-05 20:18, Sunday

Thanks for the useful tips! With that, I was able to make it through with the image-based (not tile-based) maps. As an old PG1 fan the newer maps look a bit silly to me, but I can learn to get by :)

Meanwhile, I managed a Victory in Madrid (Scenario 3)... although I only have 5 core units left, so it remains to be seen how the rest of the campaign will go. Time to find out!

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OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Victory
2 Marcha hacia Madrid , #1 , Tactical Victory
3 Batalla de Madrid , #2 , Victory

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Current scenario: Batalla de Madrid, VH prestige is 160 , All map prestige is: 480
Army cost: 984 , Current prestige is 545
Prestige available on map yet is 280 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 13
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 804
if BV: +100, Ofensiva del Jarama , cap 1700, 12 turns prestige: 42
if V : +100, Ofensiva del Jarama , cap 1700, 13 turns prestige: 49
if TV: +100, Ofensiva del Jarama , cap 1700, 16 turns prestige: 56
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 56

Infantry
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 2 bars , 218 exp , Nationalist Spain , 8/10 , 10 kill , 192 pp - U:003
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 2 bars , 220 exp , Nationalist Spain , 4/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 10 kill , 192 pp - U:006

Recon
UNL 35 , , 2 bars , 227 exp , Nationalist Spain , 8/10 , 15 kill , 264 pp - U:005

Artillery
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 1 bars , 198 exp , Nationalist Spain , 8/10 , 1 kill , 168 pp - U:001
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 2 bars , 203 exp , Nationalist Spain , 7/10 , 0 kill , 168 pp - U:002

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain, Germany
Killed: INF:77 TNK:2 RCN:2 AT:7 FORT:4 ATY:11 Total: 103
Lost : INF:7 AT:1 FTR:3 TB:1 Total: 12

BV 0
V 2
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 438 exp, 20 kill, 384 pp Average: 219 exp, 10 kill, 192 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 227 exp, 15 kill, 264 pp Average: 227 exp, 15 kill, 264 pp
Artillery * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 401 exp, 1 kill, 336 pp Average: 201 exp, 1 kill, 168 pp
* Summary: * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1066 exp, 36 kill, 984 pp Average: 213 exp, 7 kill, 197 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain, Germany has 34 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 1
Recon : 1
Anti-tank : 1
Fortification : 2
Artillery : 8
Tactical Bomber : 3

Player 2 Republican Spain has 28 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 14
Fortification : 5
Artillery : 3
Air Defense : 2
Fighter : 2
Tactical Bomber : 2


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-06 03:50, Monday

Another Brilliant Victory for the Nationalists, despite heavy air assaults from Soviet-supplied aircraft. I either need to build an air force, or start buying air defense in bulk. Curiously, although last scenario I had the option to purchase German units (but I hadn't enough prestige), this scenario I had enough prestige but the option was no longer there. Odd!

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OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Victory
2 Marcha hacia Madrid , #1 , Tactical Victory
3 Batalla de Madrid , #2 , Victory
4 Ofensiva del Jarama , #3 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Ofensiva del Jarama, VH prestige is 80 , All map prestige is: 680
Army cost: 1536 , Current prestige is 402
Prestige available on map yet is 600 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Aggressive Using map: 803
if BV: +60, Ofensiva de Guadalajara , cap 2000, 11 turns prestige: 0
if V : +60, Ofensiva de Guadalajara , cap 2000, 15 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +60, Ofensiva de Guadalajara , cap 2000, 17 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 2 bars , 299 exp , Nationalist Spain , 6/10 , 12 kill , 192 pp - U:003
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 2 bars , 291 exp , Nationalist Spain , 7/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 12 kill , 192 pp - U:005
Guardia de Asalto , , 0 bars , 66 exp , Nationalist Spain , 2/10 , 0 kill , 132 pp - U:077
Regulares , , 0 bars , 41 exp , Nationalist Spain , 7/10 , 1 kill , 108 pp - U:078

Recon
UNL 35 , , 3 bars , 302 exp , Nationalist Spain , 4/10 , 17 kill , 264 pp - U:004

Artillery
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 2 bars , 235 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 1 kill , 168 pp - U:001
105mm M.18 , Carro , , 2 bars , 262 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 0 kill , 264 pp - U:002
81mm , , 0 bars , 12 exp , Nationalist Spain , 4/10 , 0 kill , 216 pp - U:076

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:87 TNK:3 RCN:4 AT:10 FORT:8 ATY:16 Total: 128
Lost : INF:8 AT:1 ATY:1 FTR:5 TB:1 Total: 16

BV 1
V 2
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 697 exp, 25 kill, 624 pp Average: 174 exp, 6 kill, 156 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 302 exp, 17 kill, 264 pp Average: 302 exp, 17 kill, 264 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 509 exp, 1 kill, 648 pp Average: 170 exp, 0 kill, 216 pp
* Summary: * 8 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1508 exp, 43 kill, 1536 pp Average: 189 exp, 5 kill, 192 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain has 30 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 11
Tank : 2
Recon : 2
Anti-tank : 1
Fortification : 6
Artillery : 5
Fighter : 1
Tactical Bomber : 2

Player 2 Republican Spain has 19 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 4
Fortification : 10
Artillery : 1
Fighter : 2
Tactical Bomber : 2


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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Re: CC38 @ 100%

Post by kreuzfeld » 2023-02-13 04:02, Monday

In contrast to the canonical history, this time the Nationalist forces broke the Republican lines and triumphed ("Brilliant Victory") in the Battle of Guadalajara. I was only allotted four core units for this battle. Only one of my entire core group has achieved a leader by now, and I still can't afford even a single air unit.

Onward...

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OpenGen 0.93.5.0 * 16 Jul 2022 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: Z:\home\ianc\Downloads\og\EFILE_CC38\ * Efile version: CC38-Crusade in Spain 1.1 with Latin Generals WW2 4.3
Campaign: CRUSADE IN SPAIN, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Alcazar de Toledo , #0 , Victory
2 Marcha hacia Madrid , #1 , Tactical Victory
3 Batalla de Madrid , #2 , Victory
4 Ofensiva del Jarama , #3 , Brilliant Victory
5 Ofensiva de Guadalajara , #4 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Ofensiva de Guadalajara, VH prestige is 80 , All map prestige is: 120
Army cost: 1562 , Current prestige is 345
Prestige available on map yet is 40 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 16
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 21
if BV: +50, Strategical Map of Spain , cap 2000, 16 turns prestige: 110
if V : +50, Strategical Map of Spain , cap 2000, 18 turns prestige: 114
if TV: +100, Strategical Map of Spain , cap 2000, 20 turns prestige: 118
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 118

Infantry
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 3 bars , 321 exp , Nationalist Spain , 3/10 , 13 kill , 192 pp - U:003
Guardia de Asalto , Bicicletas , , 3 bars , 387 exp , Nationalist Spain , 7/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 14 kill , 192 pp - U:005
Guardia de Asalto , , 0 bars , 66 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 0 kill , 132 pp - U:007
Regulares , , 0 bars , 41 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 1 kill , 108 pp - U:008

Recon
UNL 35 , , 3 bars , 394 exp , Nationalist Spain , 8/10 , 18 kill , 264 pp - U:004

Artillery
75mm M.98 , Carro , , 2 bars , 235 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 1 kill , 168 pp - U:001
105mm M.18 , Carro , , 4 bars , 404 exp , Nationalist Spain , 11/10 , 0 kill , 290 pp - U:002
81mm , , 0 bars , 12 exp , Nationalist Spain , 10/10 , 0 kill , 216 pp - U:006

Player 1 : Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:103 TNK:4 RCN:4 AT:10 FORT:8 ATY:19 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 150
Lost : INF:11 TNK:1 AT:1 ATY:1 FTR:5 TB:1 Total: 20

BV 2
V 2
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 815 exp, 28 kill, 624 pp Average: 204 exp, 7 kill, 156 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 394 exp, 18 kill, 264 pp Average: 394 exp, 18 kill, 264 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 651 exp, 1 kill, 674 pp Average: 217 exp, 0 kill, 225 pp
* Summary: * 8 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1860 exp, 47 kill, 1562 pp Average: 233 exp, 6 kill, 195 pp


Player 1 Nationalist Spain has 23 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 13
Recon : 1
Artillery : 7
Fighter : 1
Tactical Bomber : 1

Player 2 Republican Spain has 4 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 1
Fortification : 2
Tactical Bomber : 1


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
pp <- prestige points

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