Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

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Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by jbehnken » 2021-07-08 19:06, Thursday

Hi Folks -

Long time player, but I've been absent a while. Good to be back in the thick of it.
I attempted to play the DAK campaign today and ran into trouble. I was hoping someone could give me advice.

I played Scenario 1 and 2 with no trouble.
When I played the 3rd Scenario - Operation Crusader - the instructions were to hold off the British, rather than continue the siege on Tobruk.
The instructions said: "Win by taking any flag".
Looking at the map - the only available flag is Tobruk and the nearby airfield - but Tobruk is a supply hex, not a victory hex. The airfield is just a flag, not a VH.
When the British attack came, they very quickly took two VH's in the southeast - The Airfield south of Halfya Pass and Sidi Omar. An attack also came to Sidi Rezheg, but I managed to hold it.
So, I spent my resources re-capturing those two VH's and defending Sidi Rezheg. All good. I eventually recaptured both VH's and held Sidi Rezheg, but this did not end the scenario. I played out the rest of the turns and held all my VH's, but the result was a loss.

Was I supposed to capture Tobruk? What am I missing here?

Thanks all!

John

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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by Ale » 2021-07-08 20:11, Thursday

while i never tried your mentioned campaign, i can tell you that it is not something connected to it as i experienced similar - rather same - thing with some older campaigns in scens with similar settings, namely BWDIC camp and mentioned that in other subforum... couldn't finish them even after capturing, recapturing nor even after taking all flags on map, so it was a loss although should have been win by designer (old) intention

don't know details nor what's causing that - technicalities about game not my field - and campaigns were made in pre-OG era btw, but i'll give you just way i solved it for myself i.e. by editing it and giving at least one VH owned by opposing side in start of scenario, in your case for British AI side. best way to continue without waiting for any answer, have fun.

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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by jbehnken » 2021-07-08 21:28, Thursday

I think I figured it out.
I replayed the scenario and this time the Brits captured Halfaya pass (which is a flag).
The second I retook that flag, the game ended with a Brilliant Victory.
I guess the first time around I was way too diligent. :)

So I perceive that the designer didn't expect that Halfya Pass was a defensible area.
In any case, based on this I guess the scenario is designed so that any non-VH flag will be a win if recaptured.
Odd though because I would have though recapturing a VH should also trigger a win. :dunno

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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by Parabellum » 2021-07-09 09:40, Friday

Hello John,

are you playing the DAK campaign in the CC30 version? If so, we would be happy if you would post your AAR's in the Campaign Challenge subforum. This would be very useful for everyone, because currently there is no campaign report available in the archive and other players would like to benefit from your experience with the campaign.

Thanks in advance!
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by jbehnken » 2021-07-09 13:28, Friday

Well, I considered that. Unfortunately the campaign challenge for DAK is asking for 50%. At this time I can't even win the first scenario at 100% - so I've been playing at 200%. :o It's a VERY tough campaign (which, frankly, is why I enjoy it so much).

If nobody objects, I'll be happy to post under those parameters...

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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by Parabellum » 2021-07-09 13:50, Friday

:howdy John,

Every player of a CC is welcome. Playing at 200% is absolutely no shame, because at the end of the day the game should also be fun and not just bring frustration.
50% is the highest difficulty level and it is only required if you want to direct as a field marshal in this campaign. However, I would not recommend that for a first try.
The individual levels are:
Field Marshal's level 50%
General's level 75%
100% Officer's
150% NCO
>151% Troopie
You can find more information here, if you haven't already discovered it yourself: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=44
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by jbehnken » 2021-07-09 14:20, Friday

Ok! I'll give it a go at Troopie level!

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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by Parabellum » 2021-07-09 14:40, Friday

jbehnken wrote:
2021-07-09 14:20, Friday
Ok! I'll give it a go at Troopie level!
:cool That's great.

If you don't mind, I'll join you and play the campaign as well - it's more fun with two people.

The campaign old and very well known, but I never played it before.
I think 100% is the right level for me.
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Trouble with Deutsche Afrika Corps

Post by jbehnken » 2021-07-10 17:05, Saturday

Awesome! We can compare notes! My first battle is posted.

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