MAPS: Post information about new maps here please

[randowe]

Another map is finished

Number: 1589
Name: Rostov West (3K)
Location: Russia
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Comment: mod of map 1533


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If anyone is interested to merge the new map 1589 with map 1533, you can easily do it. The XXL map would be 4770 pixel wide:

[randowe]

I swear, this was not planned So still two more maps by me this year. Then i am finished with my map plans.
This new map is for Dimitri's upcomming naval campaign:

Number: 1591
Name: Calais (3K)
Location: France
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Comment: mod of map 50027


If mapfinder is broken, it is as it is. People still can download the map from the repository when playing. Once i am finished i try to upload to discord a map pack with all the 3K maps which i am using myself for map makers.

[Llewen]

I swear, this was not planned So still two more maps by me this year. Then i am finished with my map plans.

We all know you can't stop. Now is the time for acceptance...

[randowe]

I swear, this was not planned So still two more maps by me this year. Then i am finished with my map plans.

We all know you can't stop. Now is the time for acceptance...

Haha no, this time i am serious

Two more maps this year: Hel Peninsula and Dnipro. That's it. I swear
Next year two more maps: Finish the 40% done map of the German Ruhrgebiet and the other one will be Vyazma for a nice muddy autumn scenario.

I want to concentrate on campaigns and playing the game.

[Llewen]

You do a beautiful job on those maps.

[randowe]

You do a beautiful job on those maps.

Thank you very much!

[sympatyk]

You do a beautiful job on those maps.

[sympatyk]

If mapfinder is broken, it is as it is. People still can download the map from the repository when playing. Once i am finished i try to upload to discord a map pack with all the 3K maps which i am using myself for map makers.

You can also send it to me (if you want) --> I will place these maps (1589 and 1591) on the Kowdara server, I also place mapX files there

I'm wondering about MF --> it's really needed for creators, not players
Maps are downloaded automatically from other places

Map Viewer (MF) is needed for people who will do something --> new scenarios, campaigns, maps...
If there is a problem with load/transfer, maybe access should be restricted - only for logged in users
And one more question - what parameters must the server meet to transfer such a browser (MF) with all its components to it?

[randowe]

If mapfinder is broken, it is as it is. People still can download the map from the repository when playing. Once i am finished i try to upload to discord a map pack with all the 3K maps which i am using myself for map makers.

I plan to upload all the 3K maps (+ one smaller map of Gdansk that is needed for the Weltkrieg campaign) and their mapx files to discord in one 300mb file. I also created new mapx files of the old ones, where the map number was missing. So overall there will be 86 maps and 86 mapx files.
I will upload it once the last map is finished in 2 months or so. I hope i can upload such large files to dropbox. It is also a safety measure to store the files this way. In case of flooding or something like this.

You can download the file with all maps and mapx then

Thanks a lot!

[LuisGuzman]

Maps
* Number: 1589
* Name: Rostov West (3K)
and
* Number: 1591
* Name: Calais (3K)

Are already available at OG's repo and very soon at MapFinder too,

I'll post when uploaded to MapFinder



Edited: Thanks to Gilestiel , both maps are now available at MapFinder too

[none]

Map Viewer (MF) is needed for people who will do something --> new scenarios, campaigns, maps...
If there is a problem with load/transfer, maybe access should be restricted - only for logged in users

Indeed. Without maps you can't make new scenarios (unless you make your own...). This is the biggest limitation of PG2/OG compared to older "Panzer General" iterations. (Yes, you can make tiled maps in OG too, but you lose the visual aspect. Else you can as well push NATO symbol counters across a line map, hardcore wargamer style...)

And one more question - what parameters must the server meet to transfer such a browser (MF) with all its components to it?

If you mean what does a server need to be able to do the same job as Gilestiel's, the answer is "not much": It mostly needs a big(-ish) disk and bandwidth (transfer) allowance, free or at least very cheap. Else paying for it will get quite expensive on the long run.
Ah yes, and it needs you to be still interested enough in OG in 10 years' time to want to keep paying for it.

Then you need a frontend (program) on that server, which allows people to easily find a map among the over thousand bearing cryptic names... Something which, when you upload a new map, automatically creates the description/download page, and the fitting thumbnails (small picture of the map). And is safe and bug-free enough so it won't be taken over by hackers in a couple months/weeks/days... (Which means somebody needs to make sure the server keeps getting patched and is kept up-to-date all over the years.)

[randowe]

Another map is finished

Number: 1560
Name: Hel (3K)
Location: Poland
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

[LuisGuzman]

Another map is finished

Number: 1560
Name: Hel (3K)
Location: Poland
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000

Done !!!

Available at MapFinder ( Gilestiel) and OG's maps' repo

[sympatyk]

Very nice map
And there are Polish place names ..

[randowe]

Very nice map
And there are Polish place names ..

Thank you

[randowe]

This is an late addition to Weltkrieg. One more map and i am finished with map making for this year

Number: 1592
Name: El Habbaniyah (3K)
Location: Iraq
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000
Comment: mod of map 368

[LuisGuzman]

This is an late addition to Weltkrieg. One more map and i am finished with map making for this year

Number: 1592
Name: El Habbaniyah (3K)
Location: Iraq
Period: WWII
Map size: 3150;3000
Comment: mod of map 368

Already available at MapFinder (thanks to Gilestiel for uploading the images)
and OG's map's repo.

[none]

Here is my #50030 Kursk XXL (5k) map: Download Link
(JPG and .mapx)

[LuisGuzman]

Here is my #50030 Kursk XXL (5k) map: Download Link
(JPG and .mapx)

50030.jpg uploaded to OG's repo

[none]

50030.jpg uploaded to OG's repo

Thanks, but the .mapx has issues (Open Suite bug? See here).

Here is a new version, where sympatyk helped me put the names back in the .mapx.

[LuisGuzman]

Thanks, but the .mapx has issues (Open Suite bug? See here).

Here is a new version, where sympatyk helped me put the names back in the .mapx.

Doesn't matter
Files .mapx are not needed to play and thus they are not hosted in OG's map's repo, only 50030.jpg and 50030_sizeCR.txt are hosted.

[sympatyk]

Thanks, but the .mapx has issues (Open Suite bug? See here).

Here is a new version, where sympatyk helped me put the names back in the .mapx.

Doesn't matter
Files .mapx are not needed to play and thus they are not hosted in OG's map's repo, only 50030.jpg and 50030_sizeCR.txt are hosted.

Of course, you don't need *.mapX files to play...
However, they are needed for potential creators of scenarios based on this map --> Are you saying that you have stopped saving mapx files in the zip file for download?
http://www.open-general.com/install/OpenMapx.zip

You can download the mapx file individually on our server
Therefore, a file name is needed (in this case 50030_Kursk_Russia.mapx)

I remembered that names should be written in lower case for consistency... so it should be --> 50030_kursk_russia.mapx
http://www.opengeneral.pl/mapx/50030_kursk_russia.mapx

[none]

I remembered that names should be written in lower case for consistency...

Ah, sorry, didn't know that. I always use capitals for better legibility.

I also write out names, because I have difficulties remembering what some shortcut (occasionally misspellt) actually means, not to speak allowing them to be searchable. I'm pretty confident nobody here is still using Windows 3.x, so we don't really need to stick with the 8+3 DOS naming rule anymore...
I also add the country, because I need to know without going to Gilestiel's which maps exist (= which scenarios are possible) for each country. I'm not randowe, so map availability will dictate the scenarios I'll be able to make (Kursk was an exception, I absolutely wanted to have a big tank battle, besides you can't have a realistic WWII branch without Kursk. IMHO.).

[LuisGuzman]

Doesn't matter
Files .mapx are not needed to play and thus they are not hosted in OG's map's repo, only 50030.jpg and 50030_sizeCR.txt are hosted.

Of course, you don't need *.mapX files to play...
However, they are needed for potential creators of scenarios based on this map --> Are you saying that you have stopped saving mapx files in the zip file for download?
http://www.open-general.com/install/OpenMapx.zip

Yes, OpenMapx.zip is updated with version 03/04/2024 09:39 of 50030_kursk_russia.mapx (all lowercase) in open-general.com

I remembered that names should be written in lower case for consistency...

for consistency and because not all servers are Windows ... so mixing case is not safe.

[sympatyk]

It seems to me that the file - OpenMapx.zip - is missing mapx from December 2023 and January, February and March 2024...
1587_tirana.mapx
1589_rostovwest3k.mapx
1591_calais.mapx
1560_hel3k.mapx
1592_habbaniya.mapx

[sympatyk]

The following files are missing in the mapfiles.zip file (last few months)
1585_bydgoszcz.mapx
1586_jan_mayen.mapx
1590_moscow3k.mapx
1587_tirana.mapx
1589_rostovwest3k.mapx
1591_calais.mapx
1560_hel3k.mapx
1592_habbaniya.mapx

[LuisGuzman]

It seems to me that the file - OpenMapx.zip - is missing mapx from December 2023 and January, February and March 2024...
1587_tirana.mapx
1589_rostovwest3k.mapx
1591_calais.mapx
1560_hel3k.mapx
1592_habbaniya.mapx

The following files are missing in the mapfiles.zip file (last few months)
1585_bydgoszcz.mapx
1586_jan_mayen.mapx
1590_moscow3k.mapx
1587_tirana.mapx
1589_rostovwest3k.mapx
1591_calais.mapx
1560_hel3k.mapx
1592_habbaniya.mapx

I'm sorry to say but I don't update this zip file when i upload maps to open-general.com, it was surely Csaba who was doing that.

But I'll try to update and upload it from time time as it is a big file and I am having troubles uploading big files to some servers (it took me more than 20 minutes to upload the zip including the last map from None)

Please continue checking all missing mapx files in order to upload the .zip only once, when all of them are inncluded

[sympatyk]

Yes, I will take care of it

I think we should talk much more - answer some questions - in the context of further development/maintenance of files for distribution --> to the broader PG/OG community
e.g. what about the project and the csaba database? Why can't you find all the files in one place - *map, *mapx? ....

[sympatyk]

First, OpenMapx, i.e. the DBMAPX database

I added 118 files --> *.mapx with the structure - number_name.mapx
I made OpenMapx.zip
I put it on Google drive

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14ddsyr ... sp=sharing

The contents of this file
850 files with the structure - number_name.mapx (732 were already)
2 files with the structure - without nuneru_nazwa.mapx (former)
132 files with structure - tiled_name.mapx (former)
1 spreadsheet file (csv) (was)
The file weighs 52.8 MB --> OpenMapx.zip 5.68MB

The question is - does it make sense to continue doing it in this form --> when the entire project is unfinished?

Now the mapfiles from MF

The last mapx is missing here
1585_bydgoszcz.mapx
1586_jan_mayen.mapx
1590_moscow3k.mapx
1587_tirana.mapx
1589_rostovwest3k.mapx
1591_calais.mapx
1560_hel3k.mapx
1592_habbaniya.mapx
It writes that it was updated - as of December 2023 --> however, no mapx starting from September 2023

I made a file called map_file
I placed the elements of the OpenMapx file (which I created - above) + all the files I had - map/mapx

map_file.zip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14fSG0x ... sp=sharing

The contents of this file
850 files with the structure - number_name.mapx
388 files with the structure - without number_name.mapx
132 files with the structure - tiled_name.mapx
1264 *map files
The file weighs 86.6 MB --> map_file.zip 8.69 MB
The file contains a total of 2634 map/mapx file elements

[LuisGuzman]

First, OpenMapx, i.e. the DBMAPX database
I added 118 files --> *.mapx with the structure - number_name.mapx
I made OpenMapx.zip
I put it on Google drive

Now the mapfiles from MF

The last mapx is missing here
....

Thanks for doing such an outstanding work

I'm sorry for so long delay but I've been working to fix my upload issues - which I think I've got to fix.

OpenMapX.zip is updated and available from www.open-general.com now, as effectively I could not commit the .mapx files since December 2023.

It includes 961 mapx files named as "number_name".mapx convention for all the images available at open-general.com map's repo, but none of the .map o mapx before the - nowadays - standard number-name naming convention.

Whenever I add a new map to the OG repo, I update a SVN local repo including the .mapx and then commit changes/additions to the server to update OpenMapX.zip

And when updating MapFinder I also updated MF's map_files.zip, but since I could not update MF I forgot to ask Gilestiel to do.
Now that I fixed my uploading issues, everything will ne updated properly again. MF's map_file-zip is updated too (including map for 5K maps).

The question is - does it make sense to continue doing it in this form --> when the entire project is unfinished?

Good point

I doubt that any designer will download such big OpenMapX.zip file instead of searching MapFinder to find a suitable existing map.
So what is the point on updating, uploading and hosting that zip file ?

[none]

I doubt that any designer will download such big OpenMapX.zip file instead of searching MapFinder to find a suitable existing map.

I confirm.
In the last (5+) years I have downloaded a big part, if not most of Gilestiel's, but when making a scenario I still visit there because its filter function answers my simple but essential question: "What maps do exist for the scenario I'm planning?" (like "Berlin 1945?").

Most maps (especially the old ones) have very esoteric names, so you'd be hard-pressed to know which one would suit you best. On my HD I've appended country names to the .map(x) file names so I can make a rudimentary search if needed, but nothing beats the filtering possibilities Gilestiel's offers.

Long story short: Scenario makers are indeed unlikely to need the complete archive of all maps.

So what is the point on updating, uploading and hosting that zip file ?

Backup/mirroring purposes?
For people wanting a local mirror of the map repository (which is quite vital to OG)? Remember, there was a thread about this recently.