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Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE. Finished!

Post by Urica » 2020-11-20 19:32, Friday

I have some good, new campaigns to play, so I'd rather start right now. I've decided to try this Italian beauty first.

1 Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
2 Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory


The first scenarios are very fun, not too difficult, but with thight BV limits. What puzzles me is that I have a lot of prestige and I don't know what to do with it. I can't buy anything, there are very few upgrades, and I don't like attachments. So what can I do? :dunno

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OpenGen 0.93.3.99.RC13 * 7 Oct 2020  *  AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\  * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 16th October 2020
Campaign: 1927-43 LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE,  *  Player prestige modifier 100%  *  AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
 1   Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
 2   Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
 3   Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Catalonia Offensive,  VH prestige is 0 ,  All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 3249 , Current prestige is 1564
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Defensive   Using map: 757
if BV: +200, Invasion of Albania , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 50
if V : +200, Invasion of Albania , cap disabled, 14 turns prestige: 50
if TV: +200, Invasion of Albania , cap disabled, 18 turns prestige: 50
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 50

[u]Infantry[/u]
 Stati Maggiori 18 , SPA 25C ,  , 1 bars , 125 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 540 pp - U:001
 San Marco 18 ,  , 1 bars , 126 exp , Italy , 5/10 , 3 kill , 285 pp - U:002
 San Marco 38 , OM36P ,  , 1 bars , 107 exp , Italy , 6/10 , 1 kill , 360 pp - U:011
 Genio 38 , Fiat 621 ,  , 0 bars , 93 exp , Italy , 4/10 , 1 kill , 216 pp - U:012

[u]Tank  [/u]
 L3/35 ,  , 1 bars , 104 exp , Italy , 7/10 , 3 kill , 168 pp - U:010

[u]Recon[/u]
 Esploratore a Cavallo 18 ,  , 1 bars , 131 exp , Italy , 8/10 , 3 kill , 120 pp - U:005

[u]Anti-Tank[/u]
 37mm 37/45 , Horse ,  , 0 bars , 58 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 0 kill , 84 pp - U:029

[u]Flak[/u]
 MG 26 , Horse ,  , 1 bars , 102 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 1 kill , 132 pp - U:004

[u]Artillery[/u]
 75mm 75/27 , Horse ,  , 1 bars , 145 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 156 pp - U:003

[u]Fighter[/u]
 G.50 ,  , 1 bars , 136 exp , Italy , 5/10 , 3 kill , 492 pp - U:008

[u]Dive Bomber[/u]
 A.300/4 ,  , 1 bars , 163 exp , Italy , 6/10 , 0 kill , 288 pp - U:006

[u]Destroyer[/u]
 Turbine ,  , 1 bars , 166 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 0 kill , 240 pp - U:007
 MAS ,  , 1 bars , 111 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 5 kill , 168 pp - U:009

Player 1 : Italy, Germany, Nationalist Spain
Killed: INF:41   RCN:2    FLAK:6    FORT:4    ATY:7    FTR:2    TB:2    DD:2    BS:2      Total: 68
Lost  : INF:4    FLAK:1    FORT:2      Total: 7

BV  3
V   0
TV  0
L   0

Averages: 
Infantry       *   4 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    451 exp,      7 kill,   1401 pp    Average:    113 exp,      2 kill,    350 pp
Tank           *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    104 exp,      3 kill,    168 pp    Average:    104 exp,      3 kill,    168 pp
Recon          *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    131 exp,      3 kill,    120 pp    Average:    131 exp,      3 kill,    120 pp
Anti-Tank      *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :     58 exp,      0 kill,     84 pp    Average:     58 exp,      0 kill,     84 pp
Flak           *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    102 exp,      1 kill,    132 pp    Average:    102 exp,      1 kill,    132 pp
Artillery      *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    145 exp,      1 kill,    156 pp    Average:    145 exp,      1 kill,    156 pp
Fighter        *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    136 exp,      3 kill,    492 pp    Average:    136 exp,      3 kill,    492 pp
Dive Bomber    *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    163 exp,      0 kill,    288 pp    Average:    163 exp,      0 kill,    288 pp
Destroyer      *   2 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    277 exp,      5 kill,    408 pp    Average:    139 exp,      3 kill,    204 pp
* Summary:     *  13 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :   1567 exp,     23 kill,   3249 pp    Average:    121 exp,      2 kill,    250 pp


Player 1  Italy, Germany, Nationalist Spain   has 37 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 13
Tank   :  3
Recon :  3
Anti-Tank :  2
Flak :  3
Artillery :  5
Air-Defence :  1
Fighter :  2
Dive Bomber :  3
Destroyer :  2

Player 2  Republican Spain, International Brigades   has 12 units total (core+aux):
Infantry :  6
Anti-Tank :  1
Fortification :  5
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by Parabellum » 2020-11-20 19:40, Friday

Urica wrote:
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The first scenarios are very fun, not too difficult, but with thight BV limits. What puzzles me is that I have a lot of prestige and I don't know what to do with it. I can't buy anything, there are very few upgrades, and I don't like attachments. So what can I do? :dunno
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by randowe » 2020-11-20 21:03, Friday

Urica wrote:
2020-11-20 19:32, Friday
The first scenarios are very fun, not too difficult, but with thight BV limits. What puzzles me is that I have a lot of prestige and I don't know what to do with it. I can't buy anything, there are very few upgrades, and I don't like attachments. So what can I do? :dunno
Yep, upgrades are limited, with the prestige you can buy attachments or strength points as Para suggested.
I hope the turn limits are not too tight as the campaign is meant to be the most easy ATOMIC campaign.
Have fun :howdy

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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by Urica » 2020-11-21 19:21, Saturday

1 Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
2 Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
3 Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory
4 Invasion of Albania , #3 , Brilliant Victory
5 Sidi Barrani , #4 , Brilliant Victory
6 Operation Felix , #5 , Brilliant Victory
7 North Dalmatia , #6 , Brilliant Victory
8 Corinth Isthmus , #7 , Victory


The campaign goes on, with the mandatory upgrades. There is very little to do at the HQ, but the scenarios are fun enough to focus on the battles, and not on what happens next.

In Corith I didn't choose the right places to disembark and to deploy the airborne squad. That cost me the BV and, what's worse, one of the paras, that was massacred by the British artillery.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.99.RC13 * 7 Oct 2020  *  AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\  * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 16th October 2020
Campaign: 1927-43 LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE,  *  Player prestige modifier 100%  *  AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
 1   Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
 2   Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
 3   Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory
 4   Invasion of Albania , #3 , Brilliant Victory
 5   Sidi Barrani , #4 , Brilliant Victory
 6   Operation Felix , #5 , Brilliant Victory
 7   North Dalmatia , #6 , Brilliant Victory
 8   Corinth Isthmus , #7 , Victory

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Current scenario: Guns of Navarone,  VH prestige is 0 ,  All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 11181 , Current prestige is 744
AI stance is Defensive   Using map: 703
if BV: +400, Operation Merkur , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 75
if V : +400, Operation Merkur , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 75
if TV: +400, Operation Merkur , cap disabled, 19 turns prestige: 75
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 75

[u]Infantry[/u]
 Stati Maggiori 18 , SPA 25C ,  , 2 bars , 235 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Mountain Training  , 3 kill , 540 pp - U:001
 San Marco 40 , SPA Dovunque 35 ,  , 3 bars , 336 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 12 kill , 465 pp - U:002
 San Marco 40 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 304 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 6 kill , 360 pp - U:011
 Genio 40 , Fiat 626 ,  , 2 bars , 299 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack  , 5 kill , 252 pp - U:012
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 3 bars , 330 exp , Italy , 13/10 , Fire Discipline  , 3 kill , 468 pp - U:015
 Paracadutisti 40 ,  , 2 bars , 293 exp , Italy , 12/10 , 6 kill , 345 pp - U:016

[u]Tank  [/u]
 M13/40 ,  , 3 bars , 312 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 26 kill , 348 pp - U:010

[u]Recon[/u]
 AB-611 ,  , 3 bars , 328 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 216 pp - U:005

[u]Anti-Tank[/u]
 Autocannone C8 65/17 ,  , 1 bars , 188 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:013

[u]Flak[/u]
 20mm 20/65 Camion ,  , 2 bars , 251 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 4 kill , 192 pp - U:004

[u]Artillery[/u]
 105mm 105/28 , SPA TL.37 ,  , 2 bars , 218 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 360 pp - U:003
 81mm Paratrooper Mortar ,  , 2 bars , 281 exp , Italy , 12/10 , 0 kill , 360 pp - U:017
 149mm 149/40 , 3RO ,  , 1 bars , 179 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1584 pp - U:018

[u]Fighter[/u]
 CR.25bis ,  , 3 bars , 359 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 8 kill , 732 pp - U:008
 MC.202 Aces ,  , 2 bars , 238 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 1296 pp - U:020

[u]Dive Bomber[/u]
 Ba.88 ,  , 3 bars , 380 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 672 pp - U:006
 Z.1007bis ,  , 2 bars , 252 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 3 kill , 708 pp - U:021

[u]Submarine[/u]
 Marconi ,  , 2 bars , 211 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 615 pp - U:019

[u]Destroyer[/u]
 Navigatori ,  , 3 bars , 368 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 276 pp - U:007
 Navigatori ,  , 2 bars , 296 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 9 kill , 276 pp - U:009

[u]Capitol Ship[/u]
 Zara (Planes:0/1),  , 2 bars , 289 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 864 pp - U:014

Player 1 : Italy
Killed: INF:81   TNK:3    RCN:8    AT:5    FLAK:13   FORT:23   ATY:24   AD:6    FTR:9    TB:7    SUB:2    DD:10   BS:5      Total: 196
Lost  : INF:4    RCN:1    FLAK:1    FORT:2    SUB:1    DD:1      Total: 10

BV  7
V   1
TV  0
L   0

Averages: 
Infantry       *   6 Units *  5 Leaders      Total :   1797 exp,     35 kill,   2430 pp    Average:    300 exp,      6 kill,    405 pp
Tank           *   1 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    312 exp,     26 kill,    348 pp    Average:    312 exp,     26 kill,    348 pp
Recon          *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    328 exp,      6 kill,    216 pp    Average:    328 exp,      6 kill,    216 pp
Anti-Tank      *   1 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    188 exp,      4 kill,    252 pp    Average:    188 exp,      4 kill,    252 pp
Flak           *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    251 exp,      4 kill,    192 pp    Average:    251 exp,      4 kill,    192 pp
Artillery      *   3 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    678 exp,      1 kill,   2304 pp    Average:    226 exp,      0 kill,    768 pp
Fighter        *   2 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    597 exp,     10 kill,   2028 pp    Average:    299 exp,      5 kill,   1014 pp
Dive Bomber    *   2 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    632 exp,      5 kill,   1380 pp    Average:    316 exp,      3 kill,    690 pp
Submarine      *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    211 exp,      1 kill,    615 pp    Average:    211 exp,      1 kill,    615 pp
Destroyer      *   2 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    664 exp,     15 kill,    552 pp    Average:    332 exp,      8 kill,    276 pp
Capitol Ship   *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    289 exp,      6 kill,    864 pp    Average:    289 exp,      6 kill,    864 pp
* Summary:     *  21 Units *  7 Leaders      Total :   5947 exp,    113 kill,  11181 pp    Average:    283 exp,      5 kill,    532 pp
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by randowe » 2020-11-21 19:29, Saturday

Do you play without any attachments or are they not shown in your AARs?

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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by Urica » 2020-11-22 09:47, Sunday

I hate attachments. I've used them in Crete, since it was more or less mandatory, but I try to avoid them at all cost.

In Navarone I decided to take very few risks, so the BV was impossible. At least I didn't have any nasty surprises.

9 Guns of Navarone , #8 , Victory
10 Operation Merkur , #9 , Brilliant Victory


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OpenGen 0.93.3.99.RC13 * 7 Oct 2020  *  AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\  * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 16th October 2020
Campaign: 1927-43 LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE,  *  Player prestige modifier 100%  *  AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
 1   Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
 2   Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
 3   Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory
 4   Invasion of Albania , #3 , Brilliant Victory
 5   Sidi Barrani , #4 , Brilliant Victory
 6   Operation Felix , #5 , Brilliant Victory
 7   North Dalmatia , #6 , Brilliant Victory
 8   Corinth Isthmus , #7 , Victory
 9   Guns of Navarone , #8 , Victory
10   Operation Merkur , #9 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Operation Merkur,  VH prestige is 0 ,  All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 11255 , Current prestige is 138
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 12
AI stance is Defensive   Using map: 1469
if BV: +600, Alexandria , cap disabled, 16 turns prestige: 100
if V : +600, Alexandria , cap disabled, 20 turns prestige: 100
if TV: +600, Alexandria , cap disabled, 26 turns prestige: 100
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 100

[u]Infantry[/u]
 Stati Maggiori 38 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 301 exp , Italy , 5/10 , Mountain Training  , 6 kill , 570 pp - U:001
 San Marco 40 , SPA Dovunque 35 ,  , 3 bars , 359 exp , Italy , 5/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 15 kill , 465 pp - U:002
 San Marco 40 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 326 exp , Italy , 6/10 , Fire Discipline  , 8 kill , 360 pp - U:011
 Genio 40 , Fiat 626 ,  , 3 bars , 356 exp , Italy , 8/10 , Overwhelming Attack  , 6 kill , 378 pp - U:012
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 3 bars , 356 exp , Italy , 13/10 , Fire Discipline  , 6 kill , 648 pp - U:015
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 3 bars , 338 exp , Italy , 8/10 , 10 kill , 540 pp - U:016
 Guastatori 40 , SPA AS.37 ,  , 2 bars , 292 exp , Italy , 8/10 , 0 kill , 615 pp - U:084

[u]Tank  [/u]
 M13/40 ,  , 3 bars , 340 exp , Italy , 13/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 29 kill , 452 pp - U:010
 L6/40 Lancia Fiamme ,  , 2 bars , 203 exp , Italy , 8/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance  , 0 kill , 336 pp - U:089

[u]Recon[/u]
 AB-611 ,  , 3 bars , 332 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 7 kill , 216 pp - U:005

[u]Anti-Tank[/u]
 Autocannone C8 65/17 ,  , 2 bars , 224 exp , Italy , 7/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:013

[u]Flak[/u]
 20mm 20/65 Camion ,  , 2 bars , 261 exp , Italy , 3/10 , 4 kill , 192 pp - U:004

[u]Artillery[/u]
 105mm 105/28 , SPA TL.37 ,  , 2 bars , 230 exp , Italy , 12/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:003
 81mm Paratrooper Mortar ,  , 3 bars , 349 exp , Italy , 12/10 , Bridging  , 2 kill , 360 pp - U:017

[u]Fighter[/u]
 CR.25bis ,  , 4 bars , 415 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 13 kill , 732 pp - U:008
 MC.202 Aces ,  , 3 bars , 332 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 7 kill , 1296 pp - U:020

[u]Dive Bomber[/u]
 Ba.88 ,  , 4 bars , 447 exp , Italy , 8/10 , 5 kill , 672 pp - U:006
 Z.1007bis ,  , 3 bars , 340 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 5 kill , 708 pp - U:021

[u]Submarine[/u]
 Marconi ,  , 2 bars , 217 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 615 pp - U:019

[u]Destroyer[/u]
 Navigatori ,  , 4 bars , 431 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 7 kill , 276 pp - U:007
 Navigatori ,  , 3 bars , 355 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 10 kill , 276 pp - U:009

[u]Capitol Ship[/u]
 Zara (Planes:0/1),  , 3 bars , 347 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 12 kill , 864 pp - U:014

Player 1 : Italy, Germany
Killed: INF:99   TNK:3    RCN:13   AT:6    FLAK:16   FORT:30   ATY:34   AD:10   FTR:13   TB:11   SUB:2    DD:14   BS:8      Total: 259
Lost  : INF:4    RCN:1    FLAK:1    FORT:2    ATY:1    SUB:1    DD:1      Total: 11

BV  8
V   2
TV  0
L   0
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by randowe » 2020-11-22 11:30, Sunday

I must confess, attachments are an integral (and fun) part of the game for me and when i was designing this campaign, all my campaigns in fact, i did not think of players who would limit themselfs by refusing to use attachments. But of course you always can spend the money otherwise :cool

Maybe you can leave a comment on the level of difficulty of the campaign once you've finished it. That would help me a lot.

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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by Urica » 2020-11-23 17:26, Monday

11 Alexandria , #10 , Victory
12 Suez Canal , #11 , Brilliant Victory
13 Siwa Oasis , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14 Operazione C3 , #13 , Brilliant Victory


The campaign goes on without any further incidents. I missed my lost paras, so I downgraded one infantry into Paracadutisti Guastarori 42. Somewhere I lost one core artillery, too, and I can't replace that one. I wish I coul buy somehing at HQ.

As the war goes on there are so many upgrades to make that I haven't got enough prestige for everything. It hasn't been a big deal for now. As long as the Italians move carefully and avoid the enemy ships and AAs, the battles aren't too difficult.

Now the last scenario awaits me. I must decide what to upgrade first.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.99.RC13 * 7 Oct 2020  *  AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\  * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 16th October 2020
Campaign: 1927-43 LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE,  *  Player prestige modifier 100%  *  AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
 1   Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
 2   Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
 3   Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory
 4   Invasion of Albania , #3 , Brilliant Victory
 5   Sidi Barrani , #4 , Brilliant Victory
 6   Operation Felix , #5 , Brilliant Victory
 7   North Dalmatia , #6 , Brilliant Victory
 8   Corinth Isthmus , #7 , Victory
 9   Guns of Navarone , #8 , Victory
10   Operation Merkur , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11   Alexandria , #10 , Victory
12   Suez Canal , #11 , Brilliant Victory
13   Siwa Oasis , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14   Operazione C3 , #13 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Operation Husky,  VH prestige is 0 ,  All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 15500 , Current prestige is 2454
AI stance is Aggressive   Using map: 1407
BV: Win , turn prestige: 700
V : Win , turn prestige: 700
TV: Win , turn prestige: 700
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 700

[u]Infantry[/u]
 Stati Maggiori 38 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 321 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Mountain Training  , 6 kill , 570 pp - U:001
 San Marco 40 , SPA Dovunque 35 ,  , 4 bars , 424 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 16 kill , 465 pp - U:002
 San Marco 40 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 379 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 13 kill , 360 pp - U:011
 Genio 40 , Fiat 626 ,  , 4 bars , 403 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack  , 7 kill , 378 pp - U:012
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 4 bars , 469 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 10 kill , 540 pp - U:015
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 4 bars , 408 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 15 kill , 540 pp - U:016
 Guastatori 42 , SPA AS.37 ,  , 3 bars , 320 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 615 pp - U:021
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 42 ,  , 2 bars , 259 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 3 kill , 372 pp - U:023

[u]Tank  [/u]
 M15/42 ,  , 5 bars , 523 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 46 kill , 384 pp - U:010
 L6/40 Lancia Fiamme ,  , 2 bars , 287 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance  , 9 kill , 336 pp - U:022

[u]Recon[/u]
 AB-611 ,  , 4 bars , 432 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 11 kill , 216 pp - U:005

[u]Anti-Tank[/u]
 Autocannone 634N 102/35 ,  , 3 bars , 314 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 7 kill , 456 pp - U:013
 Autocannone 634N 102/35 ,  , 2 bars , 216 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 456 pp - U:024

[u]Flak[/u]
 20mm 20/65 Camion ,  , 3 bars , 300 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Resilience  , 6 kill , 192 pp - U:004
 Paratrooper MG 39 ,  , 2 bars , 290 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 255 pp - U:028

[u]Artillery[/u]
 105mm 105/28 , SPA TL.37 ,  , 2 bars , 267 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 360 pp - U:003
 81mm Paratrooper Mortar ,  , 4 bars , 425 exp , Italy , 12/10 , Bridging  , 4 kill , 360 pp - U:017
 Semovente 75/18 M41 ,  , 3 bars , 362 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 0 kill , 705 pp - U:027

[u]Air-Defence[/u]
 75mm 75/46 Camion ,  , 2 bars , 299 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Shock Tactics  , 0 kill , 708 pp - U:026

[u]Fighter[/u]
 MC.202VI ,  , 5 bars , 512 exp , Italy , 12/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 23 kill , 907 pp - U:008
 MC.202 Aces ,  , 4 bars , 456 exp , Italy , 12/10 , 13 kill , 1555 pp - U:019
 MC.202VI ,  , 4 bars , 409 exp , Italy , 12/12 , 14 kill , 1359 pp - U:025

[u]Dive Bomber[/u]
 Ba.88 ,  , 5 bars , 574 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Influence  , 6 kill , 672 pp - U:006
 Z.1007bis ,  , 5 bars , 520 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 11 kill , 708 pp - U:020

[u]Submarine[/u]
 Marconi ,  , 2 bars , 262 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 615 pp - U:018

[u]Destroyer[/u]
 Navigatori ,  , 4 bars , 475 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 12 kill , 276 pp - U:007
 Navigatori ,  , 4 bars , 413 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 13 kill , 276 pp - U:009

[u]Capitol Ship[/u]
 Zara (Planes:0/1),  , 4 bars , 461 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 18 kill , 864 pp - U:014

Player 1 : Italy, Germany
Killed: INF:150  TNK:13   RCN:28   AT:11   FLAK:23   FORT:38   ATY:53   AD:19   FTR:25   TB:20   SUB:2    DD:25   BS:21     Total: 428
Lost  : INF:9    RCN:1    FLAK:2    FORT:2    ATY:2    SUB:3    DD:2      Total: 21

BV 11
V   3
TV  0
L   0

Averages: 
Infantry       *   8 Units *  6 Leaders      Total :   2983 exp,     72 kill,   3840 pp    Average:    373 exp,      9 kill,    480 pp
Tank           *   2 Units *  2 Leaders      Total :    810 exp,     55 kill,    720 pp    Average:    405 exp,     28 kill,    360 pp
Recon          *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    432 exp,     11 kill,    216 pp    Average:    432 exp,     11 kill,    216 pp
Anti-Tank      *   2 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    530 exp,      9 kill,    912 pp    Average:    265 exp,      5 kill,    456 pp
Flak           *   2 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    590 exp,      7 kill,    447 pp    Average:    295 exp,      4 kill,    224 pp
Artillery      *   3 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :   1054 exp,      6 kill,   1425 pp    Average:    351 exp,      2 kill,    475 pp
Air-Defence    *   1 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    299 exp,      0 kill,    708 pp    Average:    299 exp,      0 kill,    708 pp
Fighter        *   3 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :   1377 exp,     50 kill,   3821 pp    Average:    459 exp,     17 kill,   1274 pp
Dive Bomber    *   2 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :   1094 exp,     17 kill,   1380 pp    Average:    547 exp,      9 kill,    690 pp
Submarine      *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    262 exp,      6 kill,    615 pp    Average:    262 exp,      6 kill,    615 pp
Destroyer      *   2 Units *  1 Leaders      Total :    888 exp,     25 kill,    552 pp    Average:    444 exp,     13 kill,    276 pp
Capitol Ship   *   1 Units *  0 Leaders      Total :    461 exp,     18 kill,    864 pp    Average:    461 exp,     18 kill,    864 pp
* Summary:     *  28 Units * 15 Leaders      Total :  10780 exp,    276 kill,  15500 pp    Average:    385 exp,     10 kill,    554 
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE

Post by randowe » 2020-11-23 18:15, Monday

I wish it would be possible in the game to replace lost core units. And only core units. But it is not possible and i can't allow the player to buy units at will.
Even with buy-units-cap and buy lists. It is also impossible to foresee which unit a player will loose in which scenario.
So i wrote in the campaign intro's notes and rules that it is not possible to buy units and that the player should be cautious when it comes to lost core units. I will use this ruleset for other campaigns in the future :yes

I know it depends on playing style but attachments are a good way to store prestige for later, whereas strength points may get lost and thus prestige :dunno

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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE. Finished!

Post by Urica » 2020-11-24 17:11, Tuesday

15 Operation Husky , #14 , Brilliant Victory

In the end I decided that this time OS would be better than upgrading, and I built some really strong fighters. Well, I got a Littorio battleship, because I like those things. In turn 10 the allies were exterminated.

All in all, it's a very interesying campaign. The scenarios are fun, varied, and rather easy, so I think that it's an excellent choice for begginers. There are very few decisions to make at HQ, but this could be an advantage for players that don't know the game. It's almost a tutorial.

On the other hand, since there isn't a prestige cap, and the player can't buy his own core, the replayability is quite low. However, thart shouldn't be a big issue.

In my opinon, the worst problem is that the player can't replace any core losses. Fortunately, the core is big enough and there are many auxiliary units, so the campaign can go on even if the player makes some mistakes, as I did myself. I didn't even need many attachments, and I'm thankful for that.

I would have liked to see a longer outro text in the last scenario, just to know how the war is supposed to end. Axis victory? Negotiated peace? An expanded Italian colonial empire? It'd be fun to know.

Would I recommend this campaign? Definitely yes, especially to new players, or to people who simply enjoy the campaign path.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.99.RC13 * 7 Oct 2020  *  AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\  * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 16th October 2020
Campaign: 1927-43 LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE,  *  Player prestige modifier 100%  *  AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
 1   Second Italo-Senussi War , #0 , Brilliant Victory
 2   Battle of Mallorca , #1 , Brilliant Victory
 3   Catalonia Offensive , #2 , Brilliant Victory
 4   Invasion of Albania , #3 , Brilliant Victory
 5   Sidi Barrani , #4 , Brilliant Victory
 6   Operation Felix , #5 , Brilliant Victory
 7   North Dalmatia , #6 , Brilliant Victory
 8   Corinth Isthmus , #7 , Victory
 9   Guns of Navarone , #8 , Victory
10   Operation Merkur , #9 , Brilliant Victory
11   Alexandria , #10 , Victory
12   Suez Canal , #11 , Brilliant Victory
13   Siwa Oasis , #12 , Brilliant Victory
14   Operazione C3 , #13 , Brilliant Victory
15   Operation Husky , #14 , Brilliant Victory

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Current scenario: Operation Husky,  VH prestige is 0 ,  All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 16476 , Current prestige is 1024
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 15
AI stance is Aggressive   Using map: 1407
BV: Win , turn prestige: 700
V : Win , turn prestige: 700
TV: Win , turn prestige: 700
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 700

[u]Infantry[/u]
 Stati Maggiori 38 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 321 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Mountain Training  , 6 kill , 570 pp - U:001
 San Marco 40 , SPA Dovunque 35 ,  , 4 bars , 432 exp , Italy , 7/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 16 kill , 465 pp - U:002
 San Marco 40 , OM36P ,  , 3 bars , 384 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 16 kill , 360 pp - U:011
 Genio 40 , Fiat 626 ,  , 4 bars , 416 exp , Italy , 9/10 , Overwhelming Attack  , 8 kill , 378 pp - U:012
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 4 bars , 486 exp , Italy , 8/10 , Fire Discipline  , 11 kill , 540 pp - U:015
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 40 ,  , 4 bars , 408 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Fire Discipline  , 15 kill , 540 pp - U:016
 Guastatori 42 , SPA AS.37 ,  , 3 bars , 337 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 3 kill , 615 pp - U:021
 Paracadutisti Guastarori 42 ,  , 2 bars , 259 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 3 kill , 372 pp - U:023

[u]Tank  [/u]
 M15/42 ,  , 5 bars , 530 exp , Italy , 9/10 , Superior Maneuver  , 46 kill , 384 pp - U:010
 L6/40 Lancia Fiamme ,  , 3 bars , 317 exp , Italy , 7/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance  , 10 kill , 336 pp - U:022

[u]Recon[/u]
 AB-611 ,  , 4 bars , 458 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 11 kill , 216 pp - U:005

[u]Anti-Tank[/u]
 Autocannone 634N 102/35 ,  , 3 bars , 347 exp , Italy , 6/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 7 kill , 456 pp - U:013
 Autocannone 634N 102/35 ,  , 2 bars , 264 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 456 pp - U:024

[u]Flak[/u]
 20mm 20/65 Camion ,  , 3 bars , 313 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Resilience  , 6 kill , 192 pp - U:004
 Paratrooper MG 39 ,  , 3 bars , 301 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 1 kill , 255 pp - U:028

[u]Artillery[/u]
 105mm 105/28 , SPA TL.37 ,  , 2 bars , 271 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 2 kill , 360 pp - U:003
 81mm Paratrooper Mortar ,  , 4 bars , 435 exp , Italy , 12/10 , Bridging  , 5 kill , 360 pp - U:017
 Semovente 75/18 M41 ,  , 3 bars , 378 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 0 kill , 705 pp - U:027

[u]Air-Defence[/u]
 75mm 75/46 Camion ,  , 2 bars , 299 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Shock Tactics  , 0 kill , 708 pp - U:026

[u]Fighter[/u]
 MC.202VI ,  , 5 bars , 534 exp , Italy , 15/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 27 kill , 1134 pp - U:008
 MC.202 Aces ,  , 4 bars , 471 exp , Italy , 11/10 , 16 kill , 1425 pp - U:019
 MC.202VI ,  , 4 bars , 442 exp , Italy , 13/12 , 16 kill , 1434 pp - U:025

[u]Dive Bomber[/u]
 Ba.88 ,  , 5 bars , 621 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Influence  , 6 kill , 672 pp - U:006
 Z.1007bis ,  , 5 bars , 538 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 13 kill , 708 pp - U:020

[u]Submarine[/u]
 Marconi ,  , 2 bars , 274 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 6 kill , 615 pp - U:018

[u]Destroyer[/u]
 Navigatori ,  , 5 bars , 502 exp , Italy , 9/10 , 13 kill , 276 pp - U:007
 Navigatori ,  , 4 bars , 435 exp , Italy , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack  , 13 kill , 276 pp - U:009

[u]Capitol Ship[/u]
 Littorio (Planes:0/1),  , 4 bars , 484 exp , Italy , 10/10 , 20 kill , 1668 pp - U:014

Player 1 : Italy, Germany
Killed: INF:174  TNK:23   RCN:36   AT:13   FLAK:27   FORT:38   ATY:59   AD:21   FTR:28   TB:23   SUB:3    DD:30   BS:24     Total: 499
Lost  : INF:12   RCN:1    FLAK:3    FORT:6    ATY:3    AD:1    SUB:3    DD:2      Total: 31

BV 12
V   3
TV  0
L   0
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Re: Playing right now: LEGIONE DI COMBATTIMENTO NAVALE. Finished!

Post by randowe » 2020-11-24 19:44, Tuesday

Thank you very much for your feedback :howdy

What you write sounds pretty much like things work as intended and the level of difficulty is a easy one.
Urica wrote:
2020-11-24 17:11, Tuesday
In my opinon, the worst problem is that the player can't replace any core losses.
A pity indeed. But as i wrote it is not possible to replace core units only and there is no way around it.
I just hope players will replay a scenario when they loose a core unit :lol
Urica wrote:
2020-11-24 17:11, Tuesday
I would have liked to see a longer outro text in the last scenario, just to know how the war is supposed to end. Axis victory? Negotiated peace? An expanded Italian colonial empire? It'd be fun to know.
The war just continues. But without the player who will become president of a military academy, as it is written in the outro. I always try to keep the texts short because of the language barrier :bonk

EDIT: I'll see if i can rework the texts :ihope

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