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Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-10 22:51, Saturday

This thread is about my new campaign "Trapping and trapped" which I will create in the next month. It is for my converted RSF Efile. There is still much to do. So it will take a long time, since I will publish it.
You can find a scenario list in the german subforum.
The campaign is about pockets (defensive / offensive). It will have some fictional scenarios.
It is the first campaign where I will give the player the units. From scenario to scenario he will get more and more units. But he can get many prototypes, because it is a long campaign and can upgrade his units at his free will. So no run should be the same. Also the player will get some pp for OS and attachements.
The player will get a Stabseinheit in the first scenario. This unit should constitute the player, so he can rename it like him. This unit is a MSU unit (because it represents the player). Unfortunately I forgot to make it MSU, so I have to start the scenario tomorrow again. :bonk

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-10 22:58, Saturday

Battle of Warsaw

In the first scenario the player has to take Warsaw which is encircled. The players core units starts in the southwest of the city, joined by a infantry division. In the east is also a infantry division, while in the north a panzer division is attacking.

The polish army is very well entrenched, so I lost many SP through the attacks. In the middle of the city is the highest resistance with one large gun and two combat support units. I attacked from the east eastern Warsaw and from the southwest the western part. In the north the panzer division conquered the two VHs in the north.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\EFILE_RSF\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
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Campaign score: 0 * Average: 0

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Current scenario: Battle of Warsaw, VH prestige is 20 , All map prestige is: 20
Army cost: 2724 , Current prestige is 150
Prestige available on map yet is 20 pp ( 20 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 8
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 8 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 9 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 10 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 0 bars , 68 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+68 exp]
Brückenpioniere , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 0 bars , 67 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 1 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+67 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 1 bars , 166 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+66 exp]
Kavallerie , , 0 bars , 65 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 1 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+65 exp]

Tank
Pz IID [R] , , 0 bars , 61 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 156 pp - U:005 [+61 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 0 bars , 60 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+60 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 0 bars , 36 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 1 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+36 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 0 bars , 30 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+30 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:17 TNK:1 RCN:1 AT:2 FLAK:1 FORT:11 ATY:5 AD:1 FTR:1 Total: 40
Lost : INF:2 AT:1 AD:1 Total: 4

BV 0
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 366 exp, 9 kill, 1116 pp Average: 92 exp, 2 kill, 279 pp
Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 61 exp, 4 kill, 156 pp Average: 61 exp, 4 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 60 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp Average: 60 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp
Fighter * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 36 exp, 1 kill, 456 pp Average: 36 exp, 1 kill, 456 pp
Tactical Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 30 exp, 0 kill, 504 pp Average: 30 exp, 0 kill, 504 pp
* Summary: * 8 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 553 exp, 14 kill, 2724 pp Average: 69 exp, 2 kill, 341 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-10 23:33, Saturday

Next try, but I`m a little confuse. Shouldn`t be there any sign that the Stabseinheit is MSU? Did I forget something?

OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\EFILE_RSF\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
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Campaign score: 0 * Average: 0

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Current scenario: Battle of Warsaw, VH prestige is 20 , All map prestige is: 20
Army cost: 2724 , Current prestige is 150
Prestige available on map yet is 20 pp ( 20 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 8
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 8 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 9 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 10 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 0 bars , 73 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+73 exp]
Brückenpioniere , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 119 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+119 exp]
Major Heinz Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , , 1 bars , 159 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 2 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+59 exp]
Kavallerie , , 0 bars , 68 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 2 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+68 exp]

Tank
Pz IID [R] , , 0 bars , 61 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 156 pp - U:005 [+61 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 0 bars , 29 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+29 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 0 bars , 64 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+64 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 0 bars , 40 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+40 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:18 TNK:1 RCN:1 AT:2 FLAK:1 FORT:14 ATY:5 AD:1 FTR:1 Total: 44
Lost : INF:1 Total: 1

BV 0
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 419 exp, 11 kill, 1116 pp Average: 105 exp, 3 kill, 279 pp
Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 61 exp, 3 kill, 156 pp Average: 61 exp, 3 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 29 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp Average: 29 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp
Fighter * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 64 exp, 0 kill, 456 pp Average: 64 exp, 0 kill, 456 pp
Tactical Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 40 exp, 0 kill, 504 pp Average: 40 exp, 0 kill, 504 pp
* Summary: * 8 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 613 exp, 14 kill, 2724 pp Average: 77 exp, 2 kill, 341 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by randowe » 2020-10-11 09:11, Sunday

Major Heinz wrote:
2020-10-10 23:33, Saturday
Next try, but I`m a little confuse. Shouldn`t be there any sign that the Stabseinheit is MSU? Did I forget something?
You can see it at HQ and when "inspect unit". There is a red bar underneath the exp bars and (MSU) is written in front of the unit's name:Image

On the map you can see that the strength plate looks a little different:

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-12 22:42, Monday

I had to restart because I had forgotten to set MSU in the victory conditions. Meanwhile I have played Warschau again and also the 2nd scenario.

Lille Pocket

I think, I will make this a little bit easier. The french army is highly entrenched and the player has no tanks that are good against entrenched infantry.

I got maybe the best bomber as a prototype. In this scenario a Pz III Panzer-Ass with a random leader, a Uhu, Brandenburger and a ground combat Sdkfz 8.8 Flak with Infantry joins the players army.

The player must fullfill the pocket by attacking british army in the west and closing the pocket. For this a aux Panzer Division is in the scenario. There are also two aux infantry divisions to help the player. The player starts in the southeast. I attacked Lille, but it lasted several turns to break through the first line. Some units got badly hit and I had to withdraw them. In the west the 7th Panzer Division managed early to destroy british resistance. They met a little battle group which had captured the airfield, because player has no airfield at the start. These two battle groups met the southern aux infantry division and all met at Lille. Meanwhile I had air superiority and could destroy or weaken some strong french units in the city.

All of my units got many exp :eek

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
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Campaign score: 55 * Average: 55

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Current scenario: Lille Pocket, VH prestige is 130 , All map prestige is: 140
Army cost: 4788 , Current prestige is 740
Prestige available on map yet is 20 pp ( 20 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 15
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 160
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 180
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 200
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 200

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 2 bars , 214 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+109 exp]
Brückenpioniere , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 179 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 7 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+114 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 1 bars , 168 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+19 exp]
Kavallerie , , 0 bars , 83 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 3 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+55 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 1 bars , 138 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 4 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+113 exp]

Tank
Pz IID [R] , , 1 bars , 147 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 6 kill , 156 pp - U:005 [+115 exp]
Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 2 bars , 224 exp , Germany , 9/10 , First Strike , 8 kill , 408 pp - U:011 [+124 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 1 bars , 133 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 2 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+108 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 0 bars , 57 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+34 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 1 bars , 102 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+51 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 0 bars , 98 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+57 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 0 bars , 76 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+76 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 1 bars , 142 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 1 kill , 504 pp - U:013 [+117 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:45 TNK:5 RCN:4 AT:6 FLAK:2 FORT:29 ATY:11 AD:2 FTR:2 Total: 106
Lost : INF:4 RCN:2 AD:1 FTR:1 Total: 8

BV 1
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 782 exp, 21 kill, 1440 pp Average: 156 exp, 4 kill, 288 pp
Tank * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 371 exp, 14 kill, 564 pp Average: 186 exp, 7 kill, 282 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 133 exp, 2 kill, 828 pp Average: 133 exp, 2 kill, 828 pp
Artillery * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 57 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp Average: 57 exp, 0 kill, 492 pp
Fighter * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 102 exp, 0 kill, 456 pp Average: 102 exp, 0 kill, 456 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 316 exp, 3 kill, 1008 pp Average: 105 exp, 1 kill, 336 pp
* Summary: * 13 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1761 exp, 40 kill, 4788 pp Average: 135 exp, 3 kill, 368 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Parabellum » 2020-10-13 08:10, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2020-10-12 22:42, Monday

if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 160
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 180
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 200
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 200
??? There is no information here as to which scenario is to be played next. Would be important if it wasn't a linear campaign path!
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Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 2 bars , 214 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+109 exp]
Brückenpioniere , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 179 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 7 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+114 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 1 bars , 168 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+19 exp]
Kavallerie , , 0 bars , 83 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 3 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+55 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 1 bars , 138 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 4 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+113 exp]
The war doesn't just need specialists - where is the perfectly normal infantry? Or are they only available as aux units in every scenario?
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
Completed CCCs: #8

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-13 09:32, Tuesday

There is no information, because I haven`t built the next scenario yet. But at the end there will be definitely this information.
In next scenario (Dunkirk) the player will get 2x Infanterie and more often used units.
But you are right, normal infantrie is the most common aux infantry unit (I think the aux units are very realistic).
But as the first two scenarios are fighting in big cities I thought it would be a good idea to give the player better infantry at the beginning.

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Parabellum » 2020-10-13 09:48, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2020-10-13 09:32, Tuesday
There is no information, because I haven`t built the next scenario yet. But at the end there will be definitely this information.
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Major Heinz wrote:
2020-10-13 09:32, Tuesday
In next scenario (Dunkirk) the player will get 2x Infanterie and more often used units.
So expanding your own core units is only possible with prototypes or by assigning the designer at the beginning of each new scenario, right?
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-13 10:06, Tuesday

Yes, that is right, but the player have the chance to get many prototypes, because it is a long campaign.

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2020-10-15 13:44, Thursday

Battle of Dunkirk

New units given the player:
2x mot. Infantrie
1x Pz IID
1x PSW 231 8-Rad
1x Sdkfz 6/2
2x 105mm Ari

Also I bought two attachements at HQ and give full OS to my both leaders.

This was a hard one and should be. The player starts with his units in the west. The new given units start in the south. At some VHs there was high resistance. Allied troops have only few tanks, but they proved that they have high endurance. Later in the northeast reinforcements arrive the battlefield. They attacked belgium troops at Oostende and other units sneaked at bad weather to the defending artillery in Dunkirk and knocked them out. Together with my core army arriving from the west I could capture Dunkirk in last turn.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
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Campaign score: 109 * Average: 54

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Current scenario: Battle of Dunkirk, VH prestige is 80 , All map prestige is: 80
Army cost: 7392 , Current prestige is 1961
Prestige available on map yet is 80 pp ( 80 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 18
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 22 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 2 bars , 299 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 8 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+85 exp]
Brückenpioniere , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 341 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 9 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+162 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 1 bars , 180 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+12 exp]
Kavallerie , , 1 bars , 139 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 5 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+56 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 2 bars , 201 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 9 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+63 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 0 bars , 95 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+45 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 1 bars , 167 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+117 exp]

Tank
Pz IID [R] , , 2 bars , 260 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 10 kill , 156 pp - U:005 [+113 exp]
Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 4 bars , 402 exp , Germany , 3/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 12 kill , 408 pp - U:011 [+178 exp]
Pz IID [R] , , 1 bars , 159 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 2 kill , 156 pp - U:016 [+109 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 1 bars , 118 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+68 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 2 bars , 209 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Fast Speed, 4 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+76 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 0 bars , 88 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+31 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 0 bars , 98 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+48 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 110 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+60 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 0 bars , 85 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 1 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+35 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 2 bars , 245 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 4 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+143 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 0 bars , 60 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+10 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 1 bars , 152 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+54 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 1 bars , 154 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+78 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 2 bars , 288 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 1 kill , 504 pp - U:013 [+146 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 1 bars , 144 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+94 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:84 TNK:9 RCN:6 AT:11 FLAK:4 FORT:44 ATY:18 AD:5 FTR:5 TB:1 Total: 187
Lost : INF:9 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 AD:1 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 19

BV 2
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1422 exp, 38 kill, 1944 pp Average: 203 exp, 5 kill, 278 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 821 exp, 24 kill, 720 pp Average: 274 exp, 8 kill, 240 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 118 exp, 3 kill, 192 pp Average: 118 exp, 3 kill, 192 pp
Anti-tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 209 exp, 4 kill, 828 pp Average: 209 exp, 4 kill, 828 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 296 exp, 1 kill, 1140 pp Average: 99 exp, 0 kill, 380 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 85 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp Average: 85 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 305 exp, 4 kill, 948 pp Average: 153 exp, 2 kill, 474 pp
Tactical Bomber * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 738 exp, 4 kill, 1392 pp Average: 185 exp, 1 kill, 348 pp
* Summary: * 22 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3994 exp, 79 kill, 7392 pp Average: 182 exp, 4 kill, 336 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by randowe » 2020-10-15 14:45, Thursday

Nice too see you use the new map already :banana
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Aleksandr » 2020-10-28 21:35, Wednesday

randowe wrote:
2020-10-15 14:45, Thursday
Nice too see you use the new map already :banana
Geez, I just... omg, this is silly!!! :-D
Two days ago I dl-ed this very map for a similar scenario! This is stoopid! :whine :) :bonk
ngl, I'm not sure about using it anymore. But it took me three days to settle on a map and an overall design, after I spent weeks tweaking the previous iteration, so yeah...

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-02-16 14:35, Tuesday

After a long break I have restarted campaign making.

Vosges

New units given to the player:
PSW 204 (french captured recon)

After last scenario I got a para pak and upgraded it into a Sdkfz 6/2 with infantry and engineer ability.
This is a very easy scenario. There are only 30 opponents, nearly all US and mostly without a exp bar. Just pushed forward. There were no real resistance. A short intermezzo after two more heavy and long scenarios.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
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Campaign score: 229 * Average: 57

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Current scenario: Vosges, VH prestige is 120 , All map prestige is: 120
Army cost: 7618 , Current prestige is 1959
Prestige available on map yet is 120 pp ( 120 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 3 bars , 307 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+8 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 341 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 252 pp - U:002
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 1 bars , 180 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 276 pp - U:003
Kavallerie , , 1 bars , 171 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+32 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 2 bars , 238 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 12 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+37 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 1 bars , 106 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+11 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 2 bars , 203 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+36 exp]

Tank
Pz IID [R] , , 2 bars , 275 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 10 kill , 156 pp - U:005 [+15 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 4 bars , 485 exp , Germany , 12/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 18 kill , 489 pp - U:011 [+83 exp]
Pz IID [R] , , 1 bars , 174 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 156 pp - U:016 [+15 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 1 bars , 154 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 7 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+36 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 1 bars , 199 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+49 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 2 bars , 217 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 5 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+8 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 0 bars , 77 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+77 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 102 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+14 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 127 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+29 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 110 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 0 bars , 85 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 228 pp - U:020

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 3 bars , 317 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 7 kill , 501 pp - U:007 [+72 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 1 bars , 104 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+44 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 2 bars , 237 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+85 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 1 bars , 183 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+29 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 3 bars , 316 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 1 kill , 604 pp - U:013 [+28 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 1 bars , 178 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+34 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:93 TNK:10 RCN:7 AT:13 FLAK:5 FORT:55 ATY:21 AD:5 FTR:6 TB:2 Total: 217
Lost : INF:9 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 AD:1 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 19

BV 4
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1546 exp, 46 kill, 1944 pp Average: 221 exp, 7 kill, 278 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 934 exp, 31 kill, 801 pp Average: 311 exp, 10 kill, 267 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 353 exp, 8 kill, 192 pp Average: 177 exp, 4 kill, 96 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 294 exp, 7 kill, 828 pp Average: 147 exp, 4 kill, 414 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 339 exp, 3 kill, 1140 pp Average: 113 exp, 1 kill, 380 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 85 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp Average: 85 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 421 exp, 8 kill, 993 pp Average: 211 exp, 4 kill, 497 pp
Tactical Bomber * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 914 exp, 5 kill, 1492 pp Average: 229 exp, 1 kill, 373 pp
* Summary: * 24 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4886 exp, 109 kill, 7618 pp Average: 204 exp, 5 kill, 317 pp

btw. You can ignore the score or the pp. As I have to see how long the scenario went, I often have more turns left than thought and so it comes to the high scores. Also there is no pp setting at the moment. I will first finish the campaign and then start another run to decide pp for each scenario.

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Parabellum » 2021-02-16 14:54, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2021-02-16 14:35, Tuesday
...
Vosges
... There are only 30 opponents, nearly all US and mostly without a exp bar. ...
:huh do you mean US Army?
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-02-16 14:58, Tuesday

US=Understrenght

As Csaba wrote several times about OS (Overstrenght) I thought it will be clear, what I mean, but maybe it is not. :lol

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Parabellum » 2021-02-16 15:03, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2021-02-16 14:58, Tuesday
US=Understrenght

As Csaba wrote above OS (Overstrenght) I thought it will be clear, what I mean, but maybe it is not. :lol
Embarrassing :o, but I couldn't explain the letter combination :lol
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-02-19 17:08, Friday

The way to the Bialystok Pocket

The player starts at the Brest Fortress and has to conquer the city and the "Panzerrollbahn". This was the route of the southern Panzergruppe which closed Bialystok and Minsk Pocket.

New units given to the player:
1x Sdkfz 6/2
1x PSW 231
1x JU 87B

This was harder than I thought. :phew
At HQ i upgradeded both Pz II into Pz III. Brest is highly fortified. The player has a aux infantry division to clear the city. But it needs some help from the core troops. I used a little BG with a Pz III to drive into the rear of the city, weaken the big flak and bombed with my planes. A small BG captured the southern VH. The main BG with Captn. Raydar moved to the east. On the way I had to clear the forest on the right side of the central VH. There are a lot of entrechned infantry and other stuff. Captn. Rayydar moved on, overrunning several barrieres while my infantry cleared the central VH and the forest. I lost a lot of SP through this battle. Earlier I had already refitted some units which battled at Brest. In the end Capotn. Rayydar overrunned the mechanic division which secure the eastern VH.

There are some bugs (or better mistakes) in my converted efile and I have to look at this first before starting with the next scenario Uman Pocket.

The picture shows strategic view after turn 1.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
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Campaign score: 229 * Average: 57

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Current scenario: The way to the Bialystok Pocket, VH prestige is 600 , All map prestige is: 760
Army cost: 8519 , Current prestige is 1501
Prestige available on map yet is 80 pp ( 80 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 11
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 3 bars , 389 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 10 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+82 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 375 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 9 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+34 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 2 bars , 238 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 5 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+58 exp]
Kavallerie , , 2 bars , 271 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 9 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+100 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 3 bars , 301 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 15 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+63 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 1 bars , 121 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+15 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 2 bars , 269 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+66 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 292 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 11 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+17 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 785 exp , Germany , 11/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 39 kill , 448 pp - U:011 [+300 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 259 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 6 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+85 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 2 bars , 222 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 7 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+68 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 3 bars , 304 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+105 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 1 bars , 136 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 1 kill , 192 pp - U:041 [+36 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 2 bars , 249 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 7 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+32 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 0 bars , 85 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+8 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 135 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+33 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 152 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+25 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 151 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+41 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 0 bars , 85 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 228 pp - U:020
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 112 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:042 [+12 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 3 bars , 399 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 9 kill , 547 pp - U:007 [+82 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 1 bars , 133 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+29 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 2 bars , 284 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 1 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+47 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 2 bars , 224 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+41 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 3 bars , 390 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 4 kill , 504 pp - U:013 [+74 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 2 bars , 274 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 0 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+96 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 1 bars , 127 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 384 pp - U:043 [+27 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:110 TNK:14 RCN:8 AT:20 FLAK:6 FORT:77 ATY:26 AD:7 FTR:8 TB:4 Total: 280
Lost : INF:11 TNK:2 RCN:4 AT:1 AD:1 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 21

BV 4
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1964 exp, 54 kill, 1944 pp Average: 281 exp, 8 kill, 278 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1336 exp, 56 kill, 952 pp Average: 445 exp, 19 kill, 317 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 662 exp, 12 kill, 384 pp Average: 221 exp, 4 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 334 exp, 9 kill, 828 pp Average: 167 exp, 5 kill, 414 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 438 exp, 4 kill, 1140 pp Average: 146 exp, 1 kill, 380 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 197 exp, 1 kill, 456 pp Average: 99 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 532 exp, 12 kill, 1039 pp Average: 266 exp, 6 kill, 520 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1299 exp, 9 kill, 1776 pp Average: 260 exp, 2 kill, 355 pp
* Summary: * 27 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 6762 exp, 157 kill, 8519 pp Average: 250 exp, 6 kill, 316 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-02-22 15:20, Monday

Uman Pocket

New units given to the player:
1x BF 109E3 Fighter Aces

Also it is allowed to buy one unit from the aux country hungary. I decided to buy a level-bomber, because there are only a few in the RSF.+

The player can mostly deploy his troops in the north and north-east. Also there are two DH in the west. I rushed forward through the north, collecting all VHs in the east and overrunning two soviet mechanic corps. In the west i started quickly fighting and allowed most units not to try a retreat at some cost of aux units. In the south the hungarian mechanic division rushed to the EH in the south and there built a defensive formation. At this point there some fighting, because some soviet units (and also tanks) arrived this defensive formation. Got a flak leader through support fire. :cool

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72
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Campaign score: 367 * Average: 61

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Current scenario: Uman Pocket, VH prestige is 520 , All map prestige is: 840
Army cost: 10399 , Current prestige is 1514
Prestige available on map yet is 160 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 23 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 26 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 4 bars , 483 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 12 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+94 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 383 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 11 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+8 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 305 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 6 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+67 exp]
Kavallerie , , 3 bars , 316 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 10 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+45 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , , 3 bars , 376 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 16 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+75 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 1 bars , 137 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+16 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 2 bars , 284 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 6 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+15 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 3 bars , 330 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 14 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+38 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 1084 exp , Germany , 15/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 54 kill , 612 pp - U:011 [+299 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 284 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 7 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+25 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 2 bars , 254 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 8 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+32 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 3 bars , 371 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+67 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 1 bars , 183 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+47 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 2 bars , 278 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Fast Speed, 10 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+29 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 1 bars , 113 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+28 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 158 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+23 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 155 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+3 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 158 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+7 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 1 bars , 117 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Aggressive Attack , 1 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+32 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 112 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:026

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , , 4 bars , 494 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 11 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+95 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 1 bars , 166 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+33 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 1 bars , 147 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 1 kill , 984 pp - U:183 [+22 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 3 bars , 361 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+77 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 2 bars , 257 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+33 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 4 bars , 400 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 5 kill , 655 pp - U:013 [+10 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 3 bars , 305 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+31 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 1 bars , 154 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 384 pp - U:027 [+27 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , , 0 bars , 60 exp , Hungary , 8/10 , 0 kill , 672 pp - U:184 [+10 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Hungary
Killed: INF:149 TNK:24 RCN:11 AT:29 FLAK:8 FORT:92 ATY:33 AD:9 FTR:11 TB:6 Total: 372
Lost : INF:15 TNK:2 RCN:5 AT:3 FLAK:1 ATY:3 AD:1 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 32

BV 6
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 2284 exp, 63 kill, 1944 pp Average: 326 exp, 9 kill, 278 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1698 exp, 75 kill, 1116 pp Average: 566 exp, 25 kill, 372 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 808 exp, 15 kill, 384 pp Average: 269 exp, 5 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 391 exp, 13 kill, 828 pp Average: 196 exp, 7 kill, 414 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 471 exp, 5 kill, 1140 pp Average: 157 exp, 2 kill, 380 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 229 exp, 1 kill, 456 pp Average: 115 exp, 1 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 807 exp, 16 kill, 1932 pp Average: 269 exp, 5 kill, 644 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1477 exp, 16 kill, 1927 pp Average: 295 exp, 3 kill, 385 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 60 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp Average: 60 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp
* Summary: * 29 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 8225 exp, 204 kill, 10399 pp Average: 284 exp, 7 kill, 359 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-03-06 18:28, Saturday

Damn, just choosing the units for Kiew Pocket and deploying them took me several days. This map is so big that I always have to search a while to find the place where I want to deploy the units. :shock And at first I was looking for me map. I could remember that I have seen a Kiew map from Sympatyk on Gilestile, but I could not find it. But after a while I was remembering that it was a XXL map which is not saved at Gilestiles. :bonk
Now AI has 192 units. Here is a picture of strategic view of the northeastern map side.

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In the south (out of the picture) are also units and another EH. And yes, there are a few units who are waiting in the pampa for no germans. Let`s say they are the reserve army (that existed). I just want that some soviet troops can withdraw in full strenght. The defenders of Kiev will not withdraw and the player has to fight bloodily to capture the city. Next days I will again have no time to work on the scenario, so hopefully I will get some success this evening. But just to set the different entrenchement will last a while.
btw: Why it isn`t possible to say that a VH is also a EH?

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by randowe » 2021-03-06 19:13, Saturday

Major Heinz wrote:
2021-03-06 18:28, Saturday
XXL map
Bringing a XXL map at such an early stage of the campaign with a small core army of around 30 units is maybe a bit too much, no? :huh
Do planes use fuel in the RSF efile? :lol
Maybe it would have been better to ask Sympatyk to cut out a smaller (3K) version of his XXL map, which can be uploaded at mapfinder?
But i guess now it is too late and the scenario is almost finished?
Sorry, but these thoughts came to my mind :howdy
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-03-09 15:11, Tuesday

I totally understand your point, but the problem is that the area of the pocket was really big. The good thing is that cities like Konotop or Lóchwiza are on the map, and also Kiew. So the player can play the battle in reality. If you make the map smaller you will destroy the distances and Kiew is maybe only 1 hex big. :eek
Of course, there is a big space with no units, but if you watch WWII animated, you can see that it also was so in reality. The front line was on the rivers Dnjepr and Desna, and after breaking through there was nearly no resistance. And as there is nearly no resistance it is a lot of more comfortable to play just with 30 core units, because the player has to move only a few units through a large empty space. With 60 units this would endure several hours. :eek
But I will give both sides a few addiotional units, just to make a more closen front line.
And no, no fuel in RSF. Otherwise this scenario won`t be possible, because nearly all airfield are in the west.

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by randowe » 2021-03-09 16:55, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2021-03-09 15:11, Tuesday
If you make the map smaller you will destroy the distances and Kiew is maybe only 1 hex big. :eek
I didn't mean a new map with a different scale, but a section (around Kiev) of the XXL map cut out and saved with a new map number, thus keeping the same scale. This could have been done in few minutes.
Major Heinz wrote:
2021-03-09 15:11, Tuesday
the player has to move only a few units through a large empty space.
That's what i meant. There are 190 enemy units on the map and many many aux units and the player has to move most of his core units "through a large empty space." Even if it is historicaly correct, the playablility should get the same focus. But yeah i don't want to persuade you, i just wanted to point out on these things. Just go ahead :cool
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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-03-12 18:15, Friday

I know what you meant. I just want to have cities like Lochwiza and Konotop on the map. Okay, on the left side are a few hexes that I don`t need but I doubt that this will fit for 3K. The most annoying thing is that the delpoy zone switches everytime back and you have to scroll nearly the whole map for every unit you will deploy in the west. :irate

Kiew Pocket

Finally I found the time to play the scenario. I got a Pak at proto which I upgraded into a Diana.

New units given to the player:
- 1x Brückenpioniere
- 1x Pz IVF1
- 1X 88mm/36
- 1x 170mm K18
- 1x FW-190-A2

There are two DH possibilities. In the northeast and in the west. The player has several infantry divisions and two panzer divisions as aux units. In the northeast a little aux Panzer Division helps to break through. Further west a infantry division will soonly conquer the VH. The bloodiest battle is Kiew and west of the city. Several infantry division helps here the player. In the southwest also two small infantry BGs can try to cross the Dnjepr and destroy some soviets before they try to escape. In the southeast the other Panzergruppe is positioned. There are three EHs for the soviets. All units besides the defenders of Kiew will start to escape in turn 5. So the player should not stroll.
The picture shows the map after turn 1. I used the aux Luftwaffe to break through in the northeast. My own planes I flew to Kiew. Here I attacked strong artillery positions and Flak units to support my ground units. The battle here is really bloody. I lost several aux units. Poth Panzergruppen broke fastly through soviet lines. One BG with the half of my strongest units (like Captn. Rayydar) hold Konotop. The rest joined the aux Panzer Division in the north. They drove to the middle EH. The southern Panzergruppe broke through in the south and drove to the southern VH. In the middle the way was the longest and my units came three turns before the sparehead of the fleeing soviets. Turn for turn more and more soviets arived the scene and I killed them one after the other. On the other fronts it was already quite. Kiew has fallen in turn 9 and the aux infantry divisions I just used to conquer some flags, because most of them are unmotorized. But before turn 5 I could destroy some units on every front (but in the southwest the bloodtoill was very high for the aux units).

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
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Campaign score: 367 * Average: 61

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Current scenario: Kiew Pocket, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 160
Army cost: 12600 , Current prestige is 2021
Prestige available on map yet is 160 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 36
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 36 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 36 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 36 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 520 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 14 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+37 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 383 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 11 kill , 252 pp - U:002
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 306 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 7 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+1 exp]
Kavallerie , , 3 bars , 392 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 13 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+76 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 4 bars , 439 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Aggressive Attack , 19 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+63 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , , 1 bars , 177 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 5 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+40 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 7 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+55 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 199 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 252 pp - U:360 [+59 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 4 bars , 436 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 20 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+106 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 1273 exp , Germany , 10/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 74 kill , 408 pp - U:011 [+189 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 3 bars , 396 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 13 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+112 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 2 bars , 231 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 11 kill , 264 pp - U:361 [+91 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 3 bars , 309 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 9 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+55 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 4 bars , 405 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+34 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 1 bars , 193 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 3 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+10 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 3 bars , 317 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Fast Speed, 10 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+39 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 1 bars , 165 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+52 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , , 1 bars , 110 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+110 exp]

FlaK
88mm/36 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 152 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 348 pp - U:358 [+12 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 189 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+31 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 185 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+30 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 1 bars , 174 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+16 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 191 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 744 pp - U:362 [+51 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 2 bars , 202 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Aggressive Attack , 2 kill , 250 pp - U:020 [+85 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 131 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+19 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 621 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 16 kill , 547 pp - U:007 [+127 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 1 bars , 182 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+16 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 1 bars , 181 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 1 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+34 exp]
FW-190A-2 , , 2 bars , 224 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 684 pp - U:359 [+84 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 3 bars , 379 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+18 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 3 bars , 326 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+69 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 4 bars , 492 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 7 kill , 655 pp - U:013 [+92 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 3 bars , 394 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+89 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 2 bars , 226 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 384 pp - U:027 [+72 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 1 bars , 107 exp , Hungary , 10/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 672 pp - U:029 [+47 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:236 TNK:38 RCN:19 AT:49 FLAK:11 FORT:119 ATY:54 AD:15 FTR:16 TB:9 Total: 566
Lost : INF:30 TNK:3 RCN:8 AT:6 FLAK:2 ATY:7 AD:3 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 61

BV 6
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2755 exp, 78 kill, 2196 pp Average: 344 exp, 10 kill, 275 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2336 exp, 118 kill, 1176 pp Average: 584 exp, 30 kill, 294 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 907 exp, 21 kill, 384 pp Average: 302 exp, 7 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 592 exp, 16 kill, 828 pp Average: 197 exp, 5 kill, 276 pp
FlaK * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp Average: 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 739 exp, 6 kill, 1884 pp Average: 185 exp, 2 kill, 471 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 333 exp, 2 kill, 478 pp Average: 167 exp, 1 kill, 239 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1208 exp, 23 kill, 2707 pp Average: 302 exp, 6 kill, 677 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1817 exp, 22 kill, 1927 pp Average: 363 exp, 4 kill, 385 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 107 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp Average: 107 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp
* Summary: * 35 Units * 7 Leaders Total : 10946 exp, 286 kill, 12600 pp Average: 313 exp, 8 kill, 360 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-03-16 01:18, Tuesday

Ladoga Lake

A nice variety after Kiew. The map is small, the scenario is easy and can be played in 30 minutes. The player also has only to move his core units (no aux units).

New units given to the player:
1x StuG IIIE

At HQ I upgraded a JU 87 B into a JU 87D. There was nothing special in this scenario. I rushed forward into the north with three BGs. The most nasty VH was Schlüsselberg. Got a nice leader for one artillery.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
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Campaign score: 418 * Average: 59

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Current scenario: Ladoga Lake, VH prestige is 160 , All map prestige is: 240
Army cost: 13102 , Current prestige is 1838
Prestige available on map yet is 200 pp ( 160 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 9
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 14 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 15 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 553 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 17 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+33 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 407 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 12 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+24 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 323 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 8 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+17 exp]
Kavallerie , , 4 bars , 475 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 14 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+83 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 4 bars , 457 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Aggressive Attack , 22 kill , 388 pp - U:010 [+18 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 2 bars , 200 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Mountain Training , 6 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+23 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 3 bars , 367 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 8 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+28 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 279 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:033 [+80 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 507 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 24 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+71 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 1383 exp , Germany , 13/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 79 kill , 530 pp - U:011 [+110 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 4 bars , 438 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 14 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+42 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 2 bars , 267 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 13 kill , 264 pp - U:034 [+36 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 3 bars , 338 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 10 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+29 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 4 bars , 467 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+62 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 2 bars , 221 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 4 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+28 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 3 bars , 365 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Fast Speed, 11 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+48 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 1 bars , 182 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+17 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , , 1 bars , 146 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+36 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 1 bars , 171 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 204 pp - U:082 [+21 exp]

FlaK
88mm/36 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 152 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 348 pp - U:031

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 219 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+30 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , Captn. Matze , 2 bars , 210 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Devastating Fire , 1 kill , 324 pp - U:018 [+25 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 2 bars , 209 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+35 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 237 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 744 pp - U:035 [+46 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 2 bars , 250 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Aggressive Attack , 4 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+48 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 131 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 228 pp - U:026

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 766 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 18 kill , 456 pp - U:007 [+145 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 2 bars , 248 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+66 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 2 bars , 232 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 2 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+51 exp]
FW-190A-2 , , 2 bars , 284 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 684 pp - U:032 [+60 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 4 bars , 407 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+28 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 3 bars , 349 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+23 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 14/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 9 kill , 705 pp - U:013 [+44 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 4 bars , 438 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+44 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 2 bars , 279 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+53 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 1 bars , 153 exp , Hungary , 11/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 739 pp - U:029 [+46 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:250 TNK:40 RCN:20 AT:53 FLAK:11 FORT:134 ATY:57 AD:17 FTR:17 TB:11 DD:1 Total: 611
Lost : INF:30 TNK:3 RCN:8 AT:6 FLAK:2 ATY:7 AD:3 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 61

BV 7
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3061 exp, 90 kill, 2260 pp Average: 383 exp, 11 kill, 283 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2595 exp, 130 kill, 1298 pp Average: 649 exp, 33 kill, 325 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1026 exp, 25 kill, 384 pp Average: 342 exp, 8 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 864 exp, 23 kill, 1032 pp Average: 216 exp, 6 kill, 258 pp
FlaK * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp Average: 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 875 exp, 6 kill, 1884 pp Average: 219 exp, 2 kill, 471 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 381 exp, 4 kill, 456 pp Average: 191 exp, 2 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1530 exp, 27 kill, 2616 pp Average: 383 exp, 7 kill, 654 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2009 exp, 26 kill, 2085 pp Average: 402 exp, 5 kill, 417 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 153 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp Average: 153 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp
* Summary: * 36 Units * 9 Leaders Total : 12646 exp, 331 kill, 13102 pp Average: 351 exp, 9 kill, 364 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-04-04 17:49, Sunday

Chernigowka Pocket

No new units given to the player, but player can buy a romanian unit. I bought a R2 + Infanterie tank.

Finally, a new scenario is ready. Player starts in the west and northeast. In the west the player should use his units to stabilze the front line against strong soviet forces and in the northeast after a breakthrough in the first soviet line the player should conquer all VH. Most of them are lightely defended and this BG have only little work, but the player needs some armour to breakthrough fast enough. In the west the fighting is harder. I concentrated my strongest forces in the northwest around Cptn. Rayydar. The romanian aux forces in this area are very week. After a few turns LSSAH arrive the scene. After that I sent Captn. Rayydar into the south. Druzbivka has changed hands one time (until the Brandenburg cleared the situation). But especially in Petrivka in the south the situation was very critical. A T-34 there had crippled the aux units. At the end Rayydar was useless. In the south I throw the last bombs from my bombers to the soviets and after the VH has changed six times its owner :eek the town stayed in my hands. I used LSSAH to attack the north flank of attacking soviets, while my core units attacked the southern flank. The picture is from turn 7. In turn 8 all soviet front were broke down.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
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Campaign score: 484 * Average: 60

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Current scenario: Chernigovka Pocket, VH prestige is 240 , All map prestige is: 440
Army cost: 13554 , Current prestige is 2214
Prestige available on map yet is 240 pp ( 80 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 12
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 577 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 19 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+24 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 457 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 13 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+50 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 330 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+7 exp]
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 521 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 15 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+46 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 527 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 25 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+70 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 2 bars , 256 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Mountain Training , 7 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+56 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 4 bars , 445 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 8 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+78 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 292 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:033 [+13 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 597 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 32 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+90 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 1441 exp , Germany , 15/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 85 kill , 612 pp - U:011 [+58 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 4 bars , 492 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 16 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+54 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 3 bars , 312 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 19 kill , 264 pp - U:034 [+45 exp]
R2 + Infanterie , , 1 bars , 118 exp , Romania , 8/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:185 [+18 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 3 bars , 391 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 12 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+53 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 518 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+51 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 2 bars , 281 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+60 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 4 bars , 401 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 14 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+36 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 2 bars , 231 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+49 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , , 2 bars , 207 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+61 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 2 bars , 240 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 204 pp - U:036 [+69 exp]

FlaK
88mm/36 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 152 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 348 pp - U:031

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 252 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+33 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , Captn. Matze , 2 bars , 246 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Devastating Fire , 2 kill , 388 pp - U:018 [+36 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 2 bars , 225 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+16 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 283 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 744 pp - U:035 [+46 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Aggressive Attack , 5 kill , 250 pp - U:020 [+89 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 184 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+53 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 841 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 21 kill , 501 pp - U:007 [+75 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 2 bars , 298 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+50 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 2 bars , 257 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 4 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+25 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 3 bars , 319 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , 4 kill , 684 pp - U:032 [+35 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 4 bars , 429 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+22 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 3 bars , 382 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+33 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 628 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 10 kill , 756 pp - U:013 [+92 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , , 4 bars , 476 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+38 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 2 bars , 294 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+15 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 1 bars , 167 exp , Hungary , 11/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 739 pp - U:029 [+14 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:307 TNK:45 RCN:22 AT:64 FLAK:13 FORT:134 ATY:65 AD:20 FTR:20 TB:13 LB:1 DD:1 Total: 705
Lost : INF:38 TNK:3 RCN:9 AT:8 FLAK:2 ATY:8 AD:4 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 74

BV 8
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3405 exp, 99 kill, 2196 pp Average: 426 exp, 12 kill, 275 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2960 exp, 155 kill, 1632 pp Average: 592 exp, 31 kill, 326 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1190 exp, 31 kill, 384 pp Average: 397 exp, 10 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1079 exp, 28 kill, 1032 pp Average: 270 exp, 7 kill, 258 pp
FlaK * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp Average: 152 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1006 exp, 8 kill, 1948 pp Average: 252 exp, 2 kill, 487 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 523 exp, 7 kill, 478 pp Average: 262 exp, 4 kill, 239 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1715 exp, 33 kill, 2661 pp Average: 429 exp, 8 kill, 665 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2209 exp, 28 kill, 2136 pp Average: 442 exp, 6 kill, 427 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 167 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp Average: 167 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp
* Summary: * 37 Units * 10 Leaders Total : 14406 exp, 389 kill, 13554 pp Average: 389 exp, 11 kill, 366 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-04-16 18:38, Friday

Brjansk Pocket

No new units, but I got a flak proto which I will sell.

Players army starts in the southwest and there are a lot of aux units, mostly infantry. This is the first scenario with mud. This was terrible. The first half of the scenario were mud. In the south I had only limited success until then, because of mud and three defensive lines. Also in the west were only limited breakthoughs, because of the river and artilery. In the second half I could make fast progress. I splitted my army. More unexperienced and slow units went into the east the other in the north. In the last turn I could capture the northern and northeastern VH after I had destroyed the defending tank units. Brjansk was captured one turn before. It rained three leaders but unfortunately it seems that only one tank will get a leader.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
9 Chernigovka Pocket , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:61 +++ Proto: 128mm Zwilling 40
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Campaign score: 545 * Average: 60

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Current scenario: Brjansk Pocket, VH prestige is 520 , All map prestige is: 560
Army cost: 13535 , Current prestige is 2119
Prestige available on map yet is 80 pp ( 80 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 15
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 584 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 20 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+7 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 494 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 14 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+37 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 354 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+24 exp]
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 541 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 16 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+20 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 576 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Aggressive Attack , 27 kill , 356 pp - U:010 [+49 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 3 bars , 309 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Mountain Training , 10 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+53 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 4 bars , 478 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 8 kill , 302 pp - U:015 [+33 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:033 [+42 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 695 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 43 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+98 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 1871 exp , Germany , 14/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 111 kill , 571 pp - U:011 [+430 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 573 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 19 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+81 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 19 kill , 264 pp - U:034 [+22 exp]
R2 + Infanterie , , 1 bars , 118 exp , Romania , 10/10 , 3 kill , 252 pp - U:037

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 5 bars , 526 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 14 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+135 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 569 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+51 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , Capn. Hoza , 3 bars , 324 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Fire Discipline , 6 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+43 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 5 bars , 500 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 15 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+99 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 2 bars , 248 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+17 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , Capn. Guzman , 3 bars , 350 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Extended Front , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+143 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 2 bars , 264 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 204 pp - U:036 [+24 exp]

FlaK
88mm/36 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 168 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 0 kill , 348 pp - U:031 [+16 exp]
+ 128mm Zwilling 40 , , 0 bars , 0 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 280 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+28 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , Captn. Matze , 3 bars , 308 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Devastating Fire , 2 kill , 388 pp - U:018 [+62 exp]
105mm leFH 18 , SdKfz 251/4 Ausf. B (Zugm.) , , 2 bars , 246 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 324 pp - U:019 [+21 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 306 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 744 pp - U:035 [+23 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 3 bars , 373 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Aggressive Attack , 8 kill , 296 pp - U:020 [+34 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 1 bars , 186 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+2 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 977 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 24 kill , 547 pp - U:007 [+136 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 3 bars , 318 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Determined Defense , 6 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+20 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 3 bars , 326 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 7 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+69 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 3 bars , 378 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , 5 kill , 684 pp - U:032 [+59 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 4 bars , 466 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 4 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+37 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 4 bars , 472 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+90 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 753 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 11 kill , 604 pp - U:013 [+125 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , Capn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Combat Support , 3 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+60 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 3 bars , 349 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+55 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 1 bars , 193 exp , Hungary , 11/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 739 pp - U:029 [+26 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:358 TNK:52 RCN:24 AT:77 FLAK:14 FORT:161 ATY:79 AD:24 FTR:24 TB:16 LB:1 DD:1 Total: 831
Lost : INF:45 TNK:3 RCN:10 AT:10 FLAK:2 ATY:8 AD:5 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 85

BV 9
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3670 exp, 107 kill, 2278 pp Average: 459 exp, 13 kill, 285 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3591 exp, 195 kill, 1591 pp Average: 718 exp, 39 kill, 318 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1419 exp, 35 kill, 384 pp Average: 473 exp, 12 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1362 exp, 34 kill, 1032 pp Average: 341 exp, 9 kill, 258 pp
FlaK * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 168 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp Average: 84 exp, 0 kill, 174 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1140 exp, 9 kill, 1948 pp Average: 285 exp, 2 kill, 487 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 559 exp, 11 kill, 524 pp Average: 280 exp, 6 kill, 262 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 1999 exp, 42 kill, 2707 pp Average: 500 exp, 11 kill, 677 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2576 exp, 34 kill, 1984 pp Average: 515 exp, 7 kill, 397 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 193 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp Average: 193 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp
* Summary: * 38 Units * 14 Leaders Total : 16677 exp, 467 kill, 13535 pp Average: 439 exp, 12 kill, 356 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-05-10 15:58, Monday

Operation Taifun

This is one of two scenarios which the player can`t win. He has to attack Moscow, but after a few turns soviets will start a counterattack which will make a victory impossible. Also there is a ring around the city with minefields and range 2 AT guns. Third problem for the player: there is no auto refit and auto supply in this scenario. But the player can take most of the light defended (US units) flagged hexes to get some pp. And he can decide if he wants to face soviet counterattack or try to flee.

New units given to the player:
1x 7,5 cm Pak

At HQ I upgraded two artilleries in range 4 guns and refitted some unitsd and give OS to some units (in the final version will be not so much money).

Since the biggest counterattack is in the east I deployed most strong units there. In the west I put some weak forces and in the centre a mix of good and weak units. As you can see in the picture I collected all hexes until the defensive ring of the city. First problem was in the west.- Here red air fleet attacked very hard and I needed a reload. On the ground in the west and in the centre there was only a few units that counterattacked, but this units there good tanks. In the east I decided to withdraw my units to the southern bottom of the forest. Ai attacked with several OS ski infanries and T-34 tanks. I could hold the line with some problems. In the end I had a little bit of luck as 2x ski infantry and a T-34 had bypassed me in the east and attacked my artillery from behind. Luckily both guns survived.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
9 Chernigovka Pocket , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:61 +++ Proto: 128mm Zwilling 40
10 Brjansk Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
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Campaign score: 600 * Average: 60

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Current scenario: Operation Taifun, VH prestige is 1320 , All map prestige is: 1880
Army cost: 11107 , Current prestige is 1422
Prestige available on map yet is 680 pp ( 680 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 20
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
if Ls: +50, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 631 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 22 kill , 302 pp - U:001 [+47 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 5 bars , 527 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 16 kill , 126 pp - U:002 [+33 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 4 bars , 413 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 9 kill , 220 pp - U:003 [+59 exp]
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 565 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 17 kill , 93 pp - U:004 [+8 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 694 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Aggressive Attack , 29 kill , 194 pp - U:010 [+102 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 4 bars , 408 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Mountain Training , 12 kill , 226 pp - U:014 [+91 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 5 bars , 535 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 9 kill , 327 pp - U:015 [+57 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 364 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 226 pp - U:033 [+30 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 714 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 45 kill , 201 pp - U:005 [+17 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 2018 exp , Germany , 13/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 124 kill , 530 pp - U:011 [+127 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 604 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 20 kill , 151 pp - U:016 [+31 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 3 bars , 355 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 20 kill , 105 pp - U:034 [+21 exp]
R2 + Infanterie , , 1 bars , 148 exp , Romania , 8/10 , 3 kill , 201 pp - U:037

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 5 bars , 564 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 17 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+36 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 624 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+51 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , Capn. Hoza , 4 bars , 422 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fire Discipline , 8 kill , 172 pp - U:025 [+78 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 5 bars , 558 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Fast Speed, 17 kill , 579 pp - U:012 [+58 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 2 bars , 273 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+25 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , Capn. Guzman , 4 bars , 424 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Extended Front , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+74 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 2 bars , 293 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 9 kill , 163 pp - U:036 [+29 exp]
75mm/41 [S] , SdKfz 11 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 270 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 252 pp - U:168 [+45 exp]

FlaK
88mm/36 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 1 bars , 168 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 348 pp - U:031

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 323 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 246 pp - U:006 [+43 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , Captn. Matze , 3 bars , 395 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Devastating Fire , 2 kill , 417 pp - U:018 [+87 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 273 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 348 pp - U:019 [+27 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 336 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 744 pp - U:035 [+30 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 4 bars , 467 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 10 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+94 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 2 bars , 293 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 159 pp - U:026 [+107 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 1109 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 28 kill , 547 pp - U:007 [+104 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 3 bars , 374 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Determined Defense , 7 kill , 393 pp - U:021 [+56 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 3 bars , 358 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 8 kill , 98 pp - U:028 [+32 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 4 bars , 464 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Influence , 10 kill , 752 pp - U:032 [+86 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 4 bars , 487 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 4 kill , 201 pp - U:008 [+21 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 5 bars , 518 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+46 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 940 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 15 kill , 756 pp - U:013 [+181 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , Capn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 600 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Combat Support , 3 kill , 576 pp - U:022 [+49 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 4 bars , 403 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 5 kill , 295 pp - U:027 [+54 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 2 bars , 211 exp , Hungary , 11/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 739 pp - U:029 [+18 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:384 TNK:60 RCN:27 AT:80 FLAK:14 FORT:173 ATY:79 AD:24 FTR:29 TB:20 LB:1 DD:1 Total: 892
Lost : INF:45 TNK:3 RCN:10 AT:10 FLAK:2 ATY:8 AD:5 FTR:1 TB:1 Total: 85

BV 10
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4137 exp, 118 kill, 1714 pp Average: 517 exp, 15 kill, 214 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3839 exp, 212 kill, 1188 pp Average: 768 exp, 42 kill, 238 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1610 exp, 40 kill, 364 pp Average: 537 exp, 13 kill, 121 pp
Anti-tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1818 exp, 43 kill, 994 pp Average: 364 exp, 9 kill, 199 pp
FlaK * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 168 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp Average: 168 exp, 0 kill, 348 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1327 exp, 9 kill, 1755 pp Average: 332 exp, 2 kill, 439 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 760 exp, 13 kill, 387 pp Average: 380 exp, 7 kill, 194 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2305 exp, 53 kill, 1790 pp Average: 576 exp, 13 kill, 448 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2948 exp, 39 kill, 1828 pp Average: 590 exp, 8 kill, 366 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 211 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp Average: 211 exp, 0 kill, 739 pp
* Summary: * 38 Units * 14 Leaders Total : 19123 exp, 527 kill, 11107 pp Average: 503 exp, 14 kill, 292 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-05-23 14:54, Sunday

Demyansk Pocket

No activities at HQ. The player has to break up the pocket. In the east some units of the pocket hold the front, but they are attacked by superior soviet units. Luckily SS Division Totenkopf is in this area, because SS troops have combat support in the RSF. They help a lot to hold the line. In the west my progress was very slow, because of mud. After 8 turns the ground condition changed and I made fast progress. There is a soviet counterattack from the south. I stopped it with the rear guard of my core units. I had to reload a few times, because I made stupid mistakes. At the end most of the german units in the east was destroyed, but my army arrived and destroyed the rest of the soviets. I will made the soviets in this area a little bit weaker by changing the artillery into weaker models.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
9 Chernigovka Pocket , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:61 +++ Proto: 128mm Zwilling 40
10 Brjansk Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
11 Operation Taifun , #10 , Loss , (no score)
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Campaign score: 600 * Average: 60

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Current scenario: Demyansk Pocket, VH prestige is 640 , All map prestige is: 800
Army cost: 13652 , Current prestige is 1130
Prestige available on map yet is 200 pp ( 80 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 19
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 23 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 26 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 687 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 22 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+56 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 5 bars , 556 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 16 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+29 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 4 bars , 435 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 10 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+22 exp]
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 611 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 18 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+46 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 750 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Aggressive Attack , 31 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+56 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 4 bars , 462 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Mountain Training , 15 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+54 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 5 bars , 580 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 12 kill , 327 pp - U:015 [+44 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B ] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 385 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 252 pp - U:033 [+21 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 788 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 51 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+70 exp]
.Pz IIIE Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 2478 exp , Germany , 15/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 148 kill , 612 pp - U:011 [+460 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 672 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 20 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+63 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 4 bars , 437 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 29 kill , 264 pp - U:034 [+82 exp]
R2 + Infanterie , , 1 bars , 183 exp , Romania , 8/10 , 5 kill , 252 pp - U:037 [+35 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 5 bars , 630 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 17 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+66 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 754 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+130 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , Capn. Hoza , 5 bars , 506 exp , Germany , 11/10 , Fire Discipline , 9 kill , 211 pp - U:025 [+84 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 5 bars , 658 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Fast Speed, 20 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+100 exp]
+ 37mm/SdKfz 6/2 w/Inf. (leg.) [F] , , 2 bars , 285 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+12 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , Capn. Guzman , 5 bars , 501 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Extended Front , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+77 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 3 bars , 303 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 9 kill , 204 pp - U:036 [+10 exp]
75mm/41 [S] , SdKfz 11 Zugmaschine , , 2 bars , 297 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Fast Speed, 0 kill , 252 pp - U:038 [+27 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 404 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 4 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+81 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , Captn. Matze , 5 bars , 537 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Devastating Fire , 5 kill , 348 pp - U:018 [+142 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 362 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 2 kill , 348 pp - U:019 [+89 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 359 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 744 pp - U:035 [+23 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 5 bars , 620 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Aggressive Attack , 14 kill , 296 pp - U:020 [+153 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 3 bars , 301 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+8 exp]

Fighter
Bf-110C-1 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 1270 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 32 kill , 547 pp - U:007 [+161 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Determined Defense , 9 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+162 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 4 bars , 420 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 8 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+62 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 5 bars , 564 exp , Germany , 2/10 , Influence , 10 kill , 684 pp - U:032 [+100 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 5 bars , 535 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+48 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 5 bars , 622 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 13 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+104 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 1180 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 18 kill , 655 pp - U:013 [+240 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , Capn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 693 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Combat Support , 4 kill , 576 pp - U:022 [+93 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 4 bars , 491 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+88 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 2 bars , 299 exp , Hungary , 4/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 672 pp - U:029 [+88 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:442 TNK:67 RCN:30 AT:88 FLAK:15 FORT:174 ATY:88 AD:28 FTR:32 TB:23 LB:1 DD:1 Total: 989
Lost : INF:65 TNK:3 RCN:12 AT:15 FLAK:4 FORT:11 ATY:12 AD:6 FTR:1 TB:2 Total: 131

BV 10
V 0
TV 0
L 1

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 4466 exp, 128 kill, 2271 pp Average: 558 exp, 16 kill, 284 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 4558 exp, 253 kill, 1632 pp Average: 912 exp, 51 kill, 326 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1890 exp, 44 kill, 403 pp Average: 630 exp, 15 kill, 134 pp
Anti-tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2044 exp, 47 kill, 1284 pp Average: 409 exp, 9 kill, 257 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1662 exp, 14 kill, 1932 pp Average: 416 exp, 4 kill, 483 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 921 exp, 18 kill, 524 pp Average: 461 exp, 9 kill, 262 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2790 exp, 59 kill, 2707 pp Average: 698 exp, 15 kill, 677 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3521 exp, 44 kill, 2227 pp Average: 704 exp, 9 kill, 445 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 299 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp Average: 299 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp
* Summary: * 37 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 22151 exp, 607 kill, 13652 pp Average: 599 exp, 16 kill, 369 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-06-03 15:21, Thursday

Unternehmen Trappenjagd

At HQ I upgraded some units and also the tank ace. A normal offensive scenario. Building a pocket is not really possible because of terrain, only one road and many opponents. I will make this a little bit easier, because my units lost many SP.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
9 Chernigovka Pocket , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:61 +++ Proto: 128mm Zwilling 40
10 Brjansk Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
11 Operation Taifun , #10 , Loss , (no score)
12 Demyansk Pocket , #11 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
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Campaign score: 654 * Average: 59

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Current scenario: Unternehmen Trappenjagd, VH prestige is 760 , All map prestige is: 840
Army cost: 13604 , Current prestige is 1727
Prestige available on map yet is 200 pp ( 160 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 16
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 16 turns prestige: 160
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 180
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 20 turns prestige: 200
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 200

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 795 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 23 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+108 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 5 bars , 656 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 16 kill , 252 pp - U:002 [+100 exp]
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 4 bars , 470 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 11 kill , 276 pp - U:003 [+35 exp]
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 685 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 21 kill , 156 pp - U:004 [+74 exp]
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 769 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Aggressive Attack , 34 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+19 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 5 bars , 515 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Mountain Training , 17 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+53 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 5 bars , 734 exp , Germany , 1/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 13 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+154 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 430 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 5 kill , 252 pp - U:032 [+45 exp]
Motociclisti [A] , , 1 bars , 100 exp , Romania , 10/10 , 0 kill , 204 pp - U:172

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 835 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 52 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+47 exp]
Pz IIIJ Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 2858 exp , Germany , 8/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 177 kill , 528 pp - U:011 [+380 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 784 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 29 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+112 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 5 bars , 504 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 35 kill , 264 pp - U:033 [+67 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 2 bars , 205 exp , Romania , 3/10 , 8 kill , 264 pp - U:036 [+22 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 5 bars , 704 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 19 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+74 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 830 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+76 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , Capn. Hoza , 5 bars , 656 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Fire Discipline , 10 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+150 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 5 bars , 732 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Fast Speed, 25 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+74 exp]
+ StuG IIIF8 , , 3 bars , 344 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+59 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , Capn. Guzman , 5 bars , 572 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Extended Front , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+71 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 3 bars , 348 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 9 kill , 204 pp - U:035 [+45 exp]
75mm/41 [S] , SdKfz 11 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 307 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Fast Speed, 0 kill , 252 pp - U:037 [+10 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 452 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 5 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+48 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , Captn. Matze , 5 bars , 602 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Devastating Fire , 6 kill , 348 pp - U:018 [+65 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 471 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 3 kill , 348 pp - U:019 [+109 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 400 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 744 pp - U:034 [+41 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 5 bars , 728 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Aggressive Attack , 14 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+108 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 3 bars , 321 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+20 exp]

Fighter
Ju-88C-4 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 1471 exp , Germany , 14/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 37 kill , 772 pp - U:007 [+201 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 5 bars , 583 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Determined Defense , 10 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+47 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 5 bars , 558 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 9 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+138 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 5 bars , 630 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Influence , 13 kill , 684 pp - U:031 [+66 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 5 bars , 653 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+118 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 5 bars , 675 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 15 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+53 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 1311 exp , Germany , 12/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 20 kill , 604 pp - U:013 [+131 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , Capn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 799 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Combat Support , 5 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+106 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 5 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+45 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 3 bars , 366 exp , Hungary , 5/10 , Influence , 0 kill , 672 pp - U:029 [+67 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:486 TNK:72 RCN:32 AT:100 FLAK:16 FORT:190 ATY:98 AD:32 FTR:36 TB:26 LB:1 DD:2 BS:1 CRs:1 Total: 1093
Lost : INF:65 TNK:4 RCN:13 AT:15 FLAK:4 FORT:11 ATY:12 AD:6 FTR:1 TB:2 Total: 133

BV 11
V 0
TV 0
L 1

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 5154 exp, 140 kill, 2400 pp Average: 573 exp, 16 kill, 267 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 5186 exp, 301 kill, 1560 pp Average: 1037 exp, 60 kill, 312 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2190 exp, 47 kill, 384 pp Average: 730 exp, 16 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2303 exp, 55 kill, 1284 pp Average: 461 exp, 11 kill, 257 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1925 exp, 18 kill, 1932 pp Average: 481 exp, 5 kill, 483 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1049 exp, 19 kill, 456 pp Average: 525 exp, 10 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3242 exp, 69 kill, 2932 pp Average: 811 exp, 17 kill, 733 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3974 exp, 49 kill, 1984 pp Average: 795 exp, 10 kill, 397 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 366 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp Average: 366 exp, 0 kill, 672 pp
* Summary: * 38 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 25389 exp, 698 kill, 13604 pp Average: 668 exp, 18 kill, 358 pp

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Re: Playtest Trapping and Trapped

Post by Major Heinz » 2021-06-15 16:19, Tuesday

Barvenkovo Mousetrap

New units given to the player:
1x Panzergrenadiere

Also I bought a romanian 149mm gun.

This is relative easy, because AI has historically nearly no AD guns. Player has to capture Izyum salient and the town and hold all VHs until the end (the third one is Barvenkovo in the south). My core army fastly conquered the south, while aux 6th army captured the north. I also moved Captn. Rayydar, a recon, a 105mm gun and the Stabseinheit into the north. It took awhile to conquer whole Izyum because of the tightness in this area. Later from the northeast is a counterattack to break up the pocket. I weakened the soviets with my bomber and overruned them with Captn Rayydar until he got a bad hit from a KV tank and I had to withdraw him. Also in the west the 57th army arrived the scene and tried to escape, but they were no problem for me.

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\Users\Nutzer\Desktop\Open General - Kopie\efile_rsf\ * Efile version:
Campaign: Trapping and Trapped, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Do-217E-2
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
3 Battle of Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: FsJg. 28mm sPzB41 [PDS]
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:68
5 The way to the Bialystok Pocket , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
6 Uman Pocket , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:72 +++ Proto: 37mm/36/Stielgran.41 [ADS]
7 Kiew Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
8 Ladoga Lake , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:66
9 Chernigovka Pocket , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:61 +++ Proto: 128mm Zwilling 40
10 Brjansk Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
11 Operation Taifun , #10 , Loss , (no score)
12 Demyansk Pocket , #11 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
13 Unternehmen Trappenjagd , #12 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
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Campaign score: 709 * Average: 59

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Current scenario: Barvenkovo Mousetrap, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 14440 , Current prestige is 1690
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 18
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +200, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if V : +150, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
if TV: +100, ??? , cap 0, 18 turns prestige: 0
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 0

Infantry
Sturmpioniere [EA] , 37mm SdKfz 251/10 , , 5 bars , 838 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 26 kill , 432 pp - U:001 [+43 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 5 bars , 656 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 16 kill , 252 pp - U:002
Stabseinheit [ACT] , SdKfz 251/3 IV (FZ) , Major Heinz , 4 bars , 470 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 11 kill , 276 pp - U:003
Kavallerie , , 5 bars , 685 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 21 kill , 156 pp - U:004
Brandenburger [Pm] , Krupp Protze (MTW) , Captn Etzel , 5 bars , 780 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 34 kill , 324 pp - U:010 [+11 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn. Golothin , 5 bars , 546 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Mountain Training , 18 kill , 252 pp - U:014 [+31 exp]
Infanterie [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Captn Csaba , 5 bars , 744 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 13 kill , 252 pp - U:015 [+10 exp]
Brückenpioniere [ B] , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 468 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 6 kill , 252 pp - U:032 [+38 exp]
Motociclisti [A] , , 1 bars , 106 exp , Romania , 10/10 , 1 kill , 204 pp - U:038 [+6 exp]
Panzergren. [A] , SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. B (MTW) , Fliegerkorps4 , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 312 pp - U:155 [+39 exp]

Tank
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 947 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 53 kill , 252 pp - U:005 [+112 exp]
Pz IIIJ Aces , Capt. Rayydar , 5 bars , 3140 exp , Germany , 3/10 , First Strike , Special Munition, 200 kill , 528 pp - U:011 [+282 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 5 bars , 824 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 31 kill , 252 pp - U:016 [+40 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 5 bars , 516 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 38 kill , 264 pp - U:033 [+12 exp]
Pz IVF1 , , 2 bars , 221 exp , Romania , 10/10 , 10 kill , 264 pp - U:036 [+16 exp]

Recon
PSW 231 8-Rad , , 5 bars , 736 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 19 kill , 192 pp - U:017 [+32 exp]
* PSW 204 (f) , , 5 bars , 840 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 18 kill , 0 pp - U:024 [+10 exp]
PSW 231 8-Rad , Capn. Hoza , 5 bars , 662 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fire Discipline , 11 kill , 192 pp - U:025 [+6 exp]

Anti-tank
88mm/18/SdKfz 8 + Infanterie , , 5 bars , 815 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Fast Speed, 26 kill , 828 pp - U:012 [+83 exp]
+ StuG IIIF8 , , 3 bars , 375 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:023 [+31 exp]
+ 76mm (r)/SdKfz 6 Diana , Capn. Guzman , 5 bars , 600 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Extended Front , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:030 [+28 exp]
StuG IIIE [E] , , 3 bars , 381 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 204 pp - U:035 [+33 exp]
75mm/41 [S] , SdKfz 11 Zugmaschine , , 3 bars , 314 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 1 kill , 252 pp - U:037 [+7 exp]

Artillery
150mm sFh18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 457 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 492 pp - U:006 [+5 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , Captn. Matze , 5 bars , 614 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Devastating Fire , 6 kill , 348 pp - U:018 [+12 exp]
105mm K18 , SdKfz 7 Zugmaschine , , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 3 kill , 348 pp - U:019 [+65 exp]
170mm K18 , SdKfz 8 Zugmaschine , , 4 bars , 419 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 744 pp - U:034 [+19 exp]
149mm M33 , Skoda Truck , , 1 bars , 159 exp , Romania , 10/10 , 0 kill , 372 pp - U:156 [+9 exp]

Air Defense
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , Captn. Mythos , 5 bars , 774 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Aggressive Attack , 15 kill , 228 pp - U:020 [+46 exp]
37mm/SdKfz 6/2 , , 3 bars , 333 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 228 pp - U:026 [+12 exp]

Fighter
Ju-88C-4 , Captn. Parabellum , 5 bars , 1654 exp , Germany , 14/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 42 kill , 772 pp - U:007 [+183 exp]
Bf-109E-3 , , 5 bars , 627 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Determined Defense , 12 kill , 492 pp - U:021 [+44 exp]
Bf-109E-3 Fliegerasse [C] , , 5 bars , 644 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 12 kill , 984 pp - U:028 [+86 exp]
FW-190A-2 , Cpn. Scipio , 5 bars , 747 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Influence , 18 kill , 684 pp - U:031 [+117 exp]

Tactical Bomber
He-111P-2 , , 5 bars , 744 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 7 kill , 504 pp - U:008 [+91 exp]
+ Do-217E-2 , , 5 bars , 725 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+50 exp]
FW-189 Uhu [R] , Capt. Randowe , 5 bars , 1478 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 20 kill , 756 pp - U:013 [+167 exp]
Ju-87B-1 , Capn. Sympatyk , 5 bars , 882 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Combat Support , 5 kill , 384 pp - U:022 [+83 exp]
Ju-87D-1 , , 5 bars , 602 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 492 pp - U:027 [+66 exp]

Level Bomber
Ju 86K [L] , Captn. Pavel , 3 bars , 386 exp , Hungary , 10/10 , Influence , 1 kill , 672 pp - U:029 [+20 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:534 TNK:82 RCN:36 AT:109 FLAK:16 FORT:190 ATY:110 AD:34 FTR:38 TB:27 LB:1 DD:2 BS:1 CRs:1 Total: 1181
Lost : INF:69 TNK:4 RCN:14 AT:16 FLAK:4 FORT:11 ATY:12 AD:6 FTR:1 TB:2 Total: 139

BV 12
V 0
TV 0
L 1

Averages:
Infantry * 10 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 5632 exp, 146 kill, 2712 pp Average: 563 exp, 15 kill, 271 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 5648 exp, 332 kill, 1560 pp Average: 1130 exp, 66 kill, 312 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2238 exp, 48 kill, 384 pp Average: 746 exp, 16 kill, 128 pp
Anti-tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2485 exp, 59 kill, 1284 pp Average: 497 exp, 12 kill, 257 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2185 exp, 19 kill, 2304 pp Average: 437 exp, 4 kill, 461 pp
Air Defense * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1107 exp, 21 kill, 456 pp Average: 554 exp, 11 kill, 228 pp
Fighter * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3672 exp, 84 kill, 2932 pp Average: 918 exp, 21 kill, 733 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4431 exp, 53 kill, 2136 pp Average: 886 exp, 11 kill, 427 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 386 exp, 1 kill, 672 pp Average: 386 exp, 1 kill, 672 pp
* Summary: * 40 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 27784 exp, 763 kill, 14440 pp Average: 695 exp, 19 kill, 361 pp

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