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CC22 Inconsistencies between the E-Files versions

Post by Parabellum » 2021-02-03 18:53, Wednesday

A few days ago, Whereis started the CC22 in the AK version. I intended to support him and wanted to start the campaign with one of the other two versions (BP or LG).

There are differences between the tanks with regard to the announced provision of free core units at the start of the campaign:

OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\Open General\EFILE_CC22BP\ * Efile version: CC22-November 1942 1.5 with Builders Paradise v1.02.11
Campaign: NOVEMBER 1942, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
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Campaign score: 0 * Average: 0

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Current scenario: Chir, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 0 , Current prestige is 2660
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 1
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +400, Chir 2 , cap 2640, 1 turns prestige: 20
if V : +400, Chir 2 , cap 2640, 8 turns prestige: 160
if TV: +400, Chir 2 , cap 2640, 8 turns prestige: 160
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 160

Infantry
* Waffen SS , 251/1 , 129/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:031
* Waffen SS , 251/1 , 141/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:032
* Bruckenpioniere , Truck , 142/22 Pz , 0 bars , 0 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:037

Tank
* Pz 38(t)F , 204/22 Pz , 0 bars , 20 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:033
* Pz 38(t)F , 205/22 Pz , 0 bars , 25 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:034


Recon
* PSW 231 , 144/22 Pz , 0 bars , 0 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Anti-tank
* Marder IIIH , 143/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 140/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:025

Air Defense
* SdKfz 6/2 , FLAK/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-109G6 , L 8 , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:026
* Me-109G6 , L 8 , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:027

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\Open General\EFILE_CC22LG\ * Efile version: CC22-November 1942 3.1 with Latin Generals WW2 7.58
Campaign: NOVEMBER 1942, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
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Campaign score: 0 * Average: 0

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Current scenario: Chir, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 0 , Current prestige is 3770
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 1
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +300, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 1 turns prestige: 20
if V : +300, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 8 turns prestige: 160
if TV: +300, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 12 turns prestige: 240
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 240

Infantry
* SS Infanterie , SdKfz 251/1 , 129/22 Pz , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:031
* SS Infanterie , SdKfz 251/1 , 141/22 Pz , 1 bars , 104 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:032
* Brueckenpioniere (B) , SdKfz 6 , 142/22 Pz , 0 bars , 47 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:035

no tanks available

Recon
* Psw 231(8) , 144/22 Pz , 0 bars , 35 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:036

Anti-tank
* Marder II , 143/22 Pz , 1 bars , 188 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18 , Opel Blitz , 140/22 Pz , 1 bars , 131 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:025

Air Defense
* SdKfz 6/2 , FLAK/22 Pz , 1 bars , 190 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Me-109G-2 , L 8 , 1 bars , 103 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:026
* Me-109G-2 , L 8 , 1 bars , 168 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:027

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OpenGen 0.93.3.0 * 14 Oct 2019 * AI version: Default (0.91)
Efile folder: C:\Open General\EFILE_CC22AK\ * Efile version: CC22-November 1942 2.2 with Adlerkorps 4K 0.93
Campaign: NOVEMBER 1942, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
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Campaign score: 0 * Average: 0

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Current scenario: Chir, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 0
Army cost: 0 , Current prestige is 4020
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 1
AI stance is Aggressive
if BV: +400, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 1 turns prestige: 20
if V : +400, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 8 turns prestige: 160
if TV: +400, Chir 2 , cap 4500, 8 turns prestige: 160
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 160

Infantry
* SS Infanterie , SPW , 129/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:031
* SS Infanterie , SPW , 141/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:032
* 35 Bruckenpioniere , Blitz 3t , 142/22 Pz , 0 bars , 0 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:037

Tank
* Pz 38(t)F , 204/22 Pz , 0 bars , 20 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:033
* Pz 38(t)F , 205/22 Pz , 0 bars , 25 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:034


Recon
* sPzSpWg (8rad) , 144/22 Pz , 0 bars , 0 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:038

Anti-tank
* Marder 38T H , 143/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:028

Artillery
* 10,5 leFH18 , Blitz 3t , 140/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:025

Air Defense
* 3,7 Flak Sfl , FLAK/22 Pz , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:029

Fighter
* Bf 109G-2 , L 8 , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:026
* Bf 109G-2 , L 8 , 1 bars , 100 exp , Deutschland , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:027

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There is an inconsistency between the readme in the AK-Efile and the announcement of the CC, which you can find in the archive. And there is an inconsistency between the individual campaign versions (AK, BP, LG). I think that only two tanks belong to the (free) core and no more tanks should be bought. The readme refers to the first version (2.1?) of this campaign. There are probably no free core tanks in this old version. Therefore two tanks are to be bought. In version 2.2, however, the tanks are already available as free core units.

I think that the announcement of the campaign needs to be revised, because Darek's special notes only refer to version 2.1. This version is no longer offered as a download, is it?

I also think that the LG version cannot be played successfully without free core tanks. The player will fail at the prestige cap.
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: CC22 Inconsistencies between the E-Files versions

Post by Aries No Mu » 2021-02-04 03:49, Thursday

Parabellum wrote:
2021-02-03 18:53, Wednesday
I also think that the LG version cannot be played successfully without free core tanks. The player will fail at the prestige cap.
A LG CC with prestige cap problems?
:huh :huh :huh

To me that sounds more like a feature...
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Re: CC22 Inconsistencies between the E-Files versions

Post by lvjtn » 2021-02-04 18:24, Thursday

it's funny that "everybody" said in the good old days that bp is a harsh efile and campaigns made for it are much harder to play, but you are right, the permanent and inconsistent changes in the lg efile and acmpaigns can ruin playability. that's why we restored the original efile versions for the older ccs. i don't remember i ever played the lg version of this cc, but i try it this weekend, at least the first scenarios :)

edit: yep, the this cc is a mess, otoh the cc anouncement is clear for me: only two tanks are allowed to have, and yes, their absence may be a problem, i'm testing it

edit 2: i've fixed the announcement and the readme files (ak, lg) and campaign intro (lg), the updated efiles will be available this morning, please report any other inconsitences what i missed
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