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Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-10 22:06, Thursday

After 3 months of CC, it is time for a playtest.

Not so hard as randowe Warsaw, nice choice of units, trying to get exp and almost lost a Cavalry and my MSU. Maybe i could BV-1 if did not rain for 2 days.
Nice job Major.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\EFILE_ATOMIC\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49
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Campaign score: 49 * Average: 49

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Current scenario: Battle of Warsaw, VH prestige is 1040 , All map prestige is: 1520
Army cost: 3732 , Current prestige is 2420
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 6
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 349
if BV: +300, Lille Pocket , cap disabled, 6 turns prestige: 900
if V : +200, Lille Pocket , cap disabled, 7 turns prestige: 1050
if TV: +100, Lille Pocket , cap disabled, 8 turns prestige: 1200
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 1200

Infantry
Kavallerie 38 , , 0 bars , 50 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 1 kill , 156 pp - U:001 [+50 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Opel Blitz 3t , , 0 bars , 55 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 3 kill , 264 pp - U:002 [+55 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 0 bars , 55 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 1 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+55 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 1 bars , 113 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 1 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+113 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 1 bars , 101 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 3 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+101 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 0 bars , 76 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+76 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 0 bars , 48 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+48 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 0 bars , 38 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+38 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 0 bars , 28 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+28 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:21 TNK:2 RCN:2 AT:1 FLAK:3 FORT:5 ATY:5 AD:2 Total: 41
Lost : INF:2 Total: 2

BV 1
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 374 exp, 9 kill, 1932 pp Average: 75 exp, 2 kill, 386 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 76 exp, 1 kill, 264 pp Average: 76 exp, 1 kill, 264 pp
Artillery * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 86 exp, 1 kill, 1032 pp Average: 43 exp, 1 kill, 516 pp
Dive Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 28 exp, 1 kill, 504 pp Average: 28 exp, 1 kill, 504 pp
* Summary: * 9 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 564 exp, 12 kill, 3732 pp Average: 63 exp, 1 kill, 415 pp


Player 1 Germany has 44 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 22
Tank : 2
Recon : 5
Anti-Tank : 2
Flak : 1
Artillery : 8
Air-Defence : 1
Dive Bomber : 3

Player 2 Poland has 5 units total (core+aux):
Fortification : 5

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-11 02:55, Friday

Nice to see you playing my campaign. :cool
The first scenarios aren`t hard for experienced players. I think this will change if you come to Brjansk, because up from that time, the enemy has more exp. than the aux troops.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 10:28, Friday

I see some changes to efile. e.g. you buy StuG IIB that is not available (anyway i don't like it :lol )
I get a leader AT. I choose not to add AT and buy some more expencive units - you get a fighter but buy 1 too.
If i follow the directions, normaly i should not buy another unit (as you dit it - and keep playing) or i can do what i want (e.g. sell my proto or buy a second AT or a second fighter)

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by randowe » 2022-03-11 10:57, Friday

Yes, there are always changes to the efile :lol I still change the dates when a unit is available when i find more correct dates for example.
StuG IIIB will be available next month, few days after the scenario starts. But i guess i can add version Stug IIIA, which will available earlier.

Later in the campaign, from Brjansk scenario on, you will encounter few units with a bug i created. One truck transport can go 96 hex :bonk :lol A typo.
It is already corrected and will be updated when we have the next scnearios ready for our campaigns.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-11 11:46, Friday

Okay, interesting. I haven`t recognized that the StuG isn`t avaiable at that time anymore.
@Dimitris GR: Play how you like, but maybe you will find the campaign too easy if you buy just expensive units. I had always bought units, which I would have given the player, if the units would have been given by me in the campaign. My core is just a little more realistic (eg later I bought some infantry, too). Yes, the protos are a different thing. I reloaded sometimes to got a better proto, but took the first one which is okay. I think in a long campaign the player will anyway got a proto of each weapon type. So it isn`t that bad, if I have 2 fighters at the beginning.
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by randowe » 2022-03-11 12:07, Friday

Major Heinz wrote:
2022-03-11 11:46, Friday
Okay, interesting. I haven`t recognized that the StuG isn`t avaiable at that time anymore.
Like i said, most likely i changed the date of appearance of the StuG IIIB after i found it to be a little inaccurate. It is now available from June onwards. The scenario takes place in the last days of May, so the IIIB is not available anymore. I will add the IIIA from January to May, though with -1 INI.
(In the process i also added a StuG III flame version, which will be available in summer 1943.)
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 12:35, Friday

2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50

AT proto, i don't have to buy AT.
So I buy: Inf -> PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz.251, TK -> Pz IVD, FlaK -> MG38, AD -> Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm, Fighter -> Fw 187A-0.
Vey nice battle. Not really hard but not easy. My core gain exp but only the aux and my PzGren 40 fight in Lille. No leader and 2 units almost die with rugged defence by entr inf. Could BV-2, i play to end as usualy. It seems we have a great campaign!!!!!

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\EFILE_ATOMIC\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
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Campaign score: 99 * Average: 49

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Current scenario: Lille Pocket, VH prestige is 720 , All map prestige is: 1080
Army cost: 6432 , Current prestige is 2360
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 10
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 265
if BV: +300, Race to Dunkirk , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 1330
if V : +200, Race to Dunkirk , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 1670
if TV: +100, Race to Dunkirk , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 2010
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 2010

Infantry
Kavallerie 38 , , 2 bars , 200 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 3 kill , 156 pp - U:001 [+150 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Opel Blitz 3t , , 1 bars , 116 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 264 pp - U:002 [+61 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 1 bars , 107 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 3 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+52 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 2 bars , 226 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+113 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+86 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 1 bars , 120 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 4 kill , 504 pp - U:116 [+110 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 0 bars , 55 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 420 pp - U:119 [+45 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 1 bars , 143 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 1 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+67 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 1 bars , 103 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+93 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 1 bars , 114 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:117 [+104 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 1 bars , 115 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 1 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+67 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 1 bars , 144 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+106 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 1 bars , 131 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 1 kill , 756 pp - U:118 [+121 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 1 bars , 121 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 708 pp - U:115 [+111 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 0 bars , 93 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+65 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:68 TNK:6 RCN:6 AT:3 FLAK:5 FORT:5 ATY:11 AD:3 FTR:2 TB:1 Total: 110
Lost : INF:9 FLAK:2 Total: 11

BV 2
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 6 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 956 exp, 20 kill, 2436 pp Average: 159 exp, 3 kill, 406 pp
Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 55 exp, 9 kill, 420 pp Average: 55 exp, 9 kill, 420 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 143 exp, 1 kill, 264 pp Average: 143 exp, 1 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 103 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 103 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp
Flak * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 114 exp, 2 kill, 312 pp Average: 114 exp, 2 kill, 312 pp
Artillery * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 259 exp, 3 kill, 1032 pp Average: 130 exp, 2 kill, 516 pp
Air-Defence * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 131 exp, 1 kill, 756 pp Average: 131 exp, 1 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 121 exp, 2 kill, 708 pp Average: 121 exp, 2 kill, 708 pp
Dive Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 93 exp, 1 kill, 504 pp Average: 93 exp, 1 kill, 504 pp
* Summary: * 15 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1975 exp, 43 kill, 6432 pp Average: 132 exp, 3 kill, 429 pp


Player 1 Germany has 40 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 12
Tank : 6
Recon : 3
Anti-Tank : 4
Flak : 2
Artillery : 6
Air-Defence : 1
Fighter : 3
Dive Bomber : 3

Player 2 France has 1 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 1


* <- original core (don't count against cap)
+ <- BV prototype
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 15:07, Friday

Sniper team? :irate :irate :irate
They kicked my ass. Motor inf is :rip
I have to restart

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 18:20, Friday

I see something i don't like. I thing the 55 units limit is not help at all. I can't go to Dunkirk without kill 55 units. I played this 2 times (ok the first i restarted)
I thing as you have the 3/6 MSU, why there is a limit of 55 units? Ok i know is your campaign and you make it as you like.
I like it anyway (as all the campaigns) i play with the designer rules. But as Randowe sais, as long as you play, the more enjoy.
Anyway, i ll give a 3rd try, i ll try to avoid some units, but i still believe it is hard not to kill 55 units or 4 MSU.
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 18:28, Friday

The funny is that when i kill 55 units, i gain for proto ATY Karl 540mm (1968pp) :lol :lol :lol, but i ll try again.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-11 18:33, Friday

I don`t understand what you mean? Have you won the scenario through killing 55 units and not for destroying 4/6 MSU units? :huh
It is totally okay, if you win the scenario. I think for experienced player a victory is not difficult, but for unexperienced it could be hard to handle the heavy OS and experienced MSU units.
But maybe I should quit this victory condition with the 55 kills, to make the scenario harder? :huh
Edit: It was not my attention, that the player cannot win the scenario. This was only my attention at Towards, Moscow and The 6th Army is doomed.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-11 18:47, Friday

Ah, okay I think that I now see your problem. Is it that you want to get the new unit trigger (british captured tank at Dunkirk) and you always win before because of killing 55 units?

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 18:50, Friday

I believe, is not easy scenario. Is very well designed and very nice choice of aux and enemy. I believe that you should have no limit for the 55 units.
I see your playing at youtube. I played different and i could gain the bv much earlier because 4 MSU units are in the center of the map.
I killed 3 of them and you can see what i done so i don't finish.

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So i decide to move on for capture dunkirk. Icould not go without kill 55 units.
What i mean (my english are bulls*it). If you go to the center of the map early, you can kill the MSU and you can win very early.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-11 19:00, Friday

Okay, I will quit the 55 kills rule. I don`t know why I was setting the 55 kills victury rule. :huh
I think a problem is that I hadn`t recognized then creating the scenario, that the EH is a harbour and so a SH and AI will buy a lot of units that makes it not possible to reach the EH with the trigger.
But either Randowe nor me has captured the trigger, so can`t reaching it is not a big problem.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by randowe » 2022-03-11 19:04, Friday

Major Heinz wrote:
2022-03-11 19:00, Friday
I think a problem is that I hadn`t recognized then creating the scenario, that the EH is a harbour and so a SH and AI will buy a lot of units [...]
You can change the port to city terrain in your scenario. Then it is not a SH.
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 19:06, Friday

Yes, i could not get a BV and the Triger Hex. But you see if you ll try to capture it, you can't do this without kill 55 units.
So, i am not restarting, i ll continue my playing (i don't want the Karl proto, so i ll reload my autosave) another battle waits for me.
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 19:36, Friday

3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory

2660 pp and buy:
inf -> PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251
TK -> Pz II(Fl)
ATY -> 100mm Nebelwerfer 35
FTR -> Bf 109E-7
TB -> Fw 189A-1
248 pp left. Add fast speed to my Surmpioniere and recon to my recon TB. Pp left: 2 (i love when i do this :D)

As you know, i restart. Some snipers just kicked my ass. This time move fast but without my units to split. Enemy MSU at the center of the map, was hard to kill them (surournd 1 of them). Hard battle northwest, enemy airforce was about easy with the help of my aux. At Calais my mortat gain the leader.
My SPAD AD gain 1 leader (combat support). Had 28% chance and 197 exp. It is great to have an AD leader, but no combat support. Anyway, the battle has more, i could kill another MSU (and win early) but i need the exp and the pp of the map. 4 turns before BV limit, i believe 9 units to kill, are hard not to kill them if i want the trigger tank.
So, i decide to play only with my core, i killed 55 units and LTBV. I left some pp to the map, but ok, it is a playtest.
Great battle, very nice choice of aux and enemies.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
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Campaign score: 150 * Average: 50

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Current scenario: Race to Dunkirk, VH prestige is 0 , All map prestige is: 20
Army cost: 8844 , Current prestige is 252
Prestige available on map yet is 20 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 11
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 1229
if BV: +300, Vosges , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 110
if V : +200, Vosges , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 130
if TV: +100, Vosges , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 150
if Ls: +50, Vosges , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 150

Infantry
Kavallerie 38 , , 2 bars , 260 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 4 kill , 156 pp - U:001 [+60 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Opel Blitz 3t , , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 7 kill , 264 pp - U:002 [+71 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 1 bars , 192 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 5 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+85 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 3 bars , 349 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Fast Speed, 5 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+123 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 2 bars , 209 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 4 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+22 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 2 bars , 209 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 6 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+89 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 1 bars , 106 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 3 kill , 504 pp - U:128 [+86 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 1 bars , 169 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 17 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+114 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 1 bars , 119 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 336 pp - U:125 [+99 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 2 bars , 288 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 2 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+145 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 2 bars , 225 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+122 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:013 [+73 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 1 bars , 180 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+65 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 1 bars , 186 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+42 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 1 bars , 153 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Street Fighter , 1 kill , 444 pp - U:129 [+133 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 2 bars , 232 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , 1 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+101 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 2 bars , 279 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 4 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+158 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 1 bars , 118 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 4 kill , 684 pp - U:126 [+98 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 2 bars , 273 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+180 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 1 bars , 148 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 0 kill , 444 pp - U:127 [+128 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:94 TNK:10 RCN:10 AT:8 FLAK:6 FORT:8 ATY:17 AD:4 FTR:6 TB:2 Total: 165
Lost : INF:12 RCN:1 FLAK:3 TB:2 Total: 18

BV 3
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1512 exp, 34 kill, 2940 pp Average: 216 exp, 5 kill, 420 pp
Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 288 exp, 20 kill, 756 pp Average: 144 exp, 10 kill, 378 pp
Recon * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 288 exp, 2 kill, 264 pp Average: 288 exp, 2 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 225 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 225 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp
Flak * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 187 exp, 2 kill, 312 pp Average: 187 exp, 2 kill, 312 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 519 exp, 5 kill, 1476 pp Average: 173 exp, 2 kill, 492 pp
Air-Defence * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 232 exp, 1 kill, 756 pp Average: 232 exp, 1 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 397 exp, 8 kill, 1392 pp Average: 199 exp, 4 kill, 696 pp
Dive Bomber * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 421 exp, 3 kill, 948 pp Average: 211 exp, 2 kill, 474 pp
* Summary: * 20 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 4069 exp, 81 kill, 8844 pp Average: 203 exp, 4 kill, 442 pp


Player 1 Germany has 55 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 18
Tank : 6
Recon : 3
Anti-Tank : 6
Flak : 3
Artillery : 9
Air-Defence : 3
Fighter : 4
Dive Bomber : 3

Player 2 United Kingdom, France has 18 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 9
Recon : 1
Flak : 1
Fortification : 3
Artillery : 3
Air-Defence : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-11 22:49, Friday

4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55

This time proto is a Flak (i did not wantet the 1968 pp Karl, it is a playtest) and i ll keep proto for each type of unit. If i won again AT or Flak, i ll reload.
So, 552 pp and buy 1 recon -> Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) and with my 288 pp add recon att to my recons and max ammo to my TB. 30 pp left.
First shot of my TB (with max ammo) leader with fire discipline :D.
I restart this at 4-5 round. (I send my recons and my recon TB and see that the main army should go to Mulhouse).
So the second attempt, I send my cavalry east and 2 inf and 1 recon northwest.
For the 4 first rounds i play perfect. Easy, without enthusiasm, step by step. At Mulhouse my ATY gain the perfect leader (overwheelming attack), my fighters with my AD and my Flak destroy 2 enemy aircrafts. My pioniere get a leader also (first strike). At 5th round Mulhouse is mine. 6th round the area is clear and my units are not damaged (9/10 few of them). I send 1 unit (pioniere) south and the rest move north.
My mistake was that i send my ATY too far and was hit (6/10) by enemy Flak and my Flak (8/10) by mortar. The rest of my units did well, my cavalry finish the job north, my 2 inf and the recon from west travel now to north.
My pioniere to north with air support capture turn by turn all flags (my fighter gain Battlefield int leader), airport and the north VH.
At north, except the river, it was easy to capture the north VH.
I could BV-6, enemy add 2 aircrafts and i train my flaks. Last turn i did some reloads so i don't kill last enemy, but just move back and capture VH.
Anyway, very nice scenario, but it is easy. I believe when you did play it, you was too aggresive at the begin. So my suggestion is: You have to add more enemies. Also a unit "Do not kill this unit" is necessary, in every scenario i think.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
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Campaign score: 205 * Average: 51

..
Current scenario: Vosges, VH prestige is 480 , All map prestige is: 960
Army cost: 9108 , Current prestige is 1925
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 17
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 382
if BV: +300, Battle of Tobruk , cap disabled, 17 turns prestige: 935
if V : +200, Battle of Tobruk , cap disabled, 19 turns prestige: 1045
if TV: +100, Battle of Tobruk , cap disabled, 21 turns prestige: 1155
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 1155

Infantry
Kavallerie 38 , , 2 bars , 284 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 156 pp - U:001 [+24 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Opel Blitz 3t , , 2 bars , 237 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 264 pp - U:002 [+50 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 214 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+22 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 4 bars , 450 exp , Germany , 10/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 12 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+101 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 3 bars , 342 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 7 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+133 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 2 bars , 265 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 7 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+56 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 2 bars , 213 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 5 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+107 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 2 bars , 227 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 25 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+58 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 1 bars , 181 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 5 kill , 336 pp - U:016 [+62 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 3 bars , 381 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Recon, 4 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+93 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 1 bars , 154 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Recon, 1 kill , 264 pp - U:064 [+124 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 2 bars , 269 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+44 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 2 bars , 294 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 312 pp - U:013 [+107 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/17 , , 1 bars , 145 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+115 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 3 bars , 309 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 2 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+129 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 2 bars , 254 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+68 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 2 bars , 211 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 3 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+58 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 2 bars , 293 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , 2 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+61 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 4 bars , 437 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 6 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+158 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 1 bars , 193 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+75 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 4 bars , 441 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , Support, 3 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+168 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 2 bars , 274 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Recon, 0 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+126 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:117 TNK:11 RCN:12 AT:10 FLAK:8 FORT:14 ATY:19 AD:5 FTR:9 TB:3 Total: 208
Lost : INF:12 RCN:1 FLAK:3 TB:2 Total: 18

BV 4
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2005 exp, 50 kill, 2940 pp Average: 286 exp, 7 kill, 420 pp
Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 408 exp, 30 kill, 756 pp Average: 204 exp, 15 kill, 378 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 535 exp, 5 kill, 528 pp Average: 268 exp, 3 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 269 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp Average: 269 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 439 exp, 8 kill, 312 pp Average: 220 exp, 4 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 774 exp, 7 kill, 1476 pp Average: 258 exp, 2 kill, 492 pp
Air-Defence * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 293 exp, 2 kill, 756 pp Average: 293 exp, 2 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 630 exp, 12 kill, 1392 pp Average: 315 exp, 6 kill, 696 pp
Dive Bomber * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 715 exp, 3 kill, 948 pp Average: 358 exp, 2 kill, 474 pp
* Summary: * 22 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 6068 exp, 124 kill, 9108 pp Average: 276 exp, 6 kill, 414 pp


Player 1 Germany has 22 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 7
Tank : 2
Recon : 2
Anti-Tank : 1
Flak : 2
Artillery : 3
Air-Defence : 1
Fighter : 2
Dive Bomber : 2

Player 2 France has 1 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-12 05:38, Saturday

It is intended that the scenario is easy and there are only are few opponents. Because it`s just realistic. But BV -6 is hard. I think you are too good for my campaign. :lol :shock
Maybe I can reduce one turn, but I think otherwise BV would be too hard for unexperienced player.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 06:32, Saturday

I forget to wright, that did not rain at all.
As for how good i am, :o :o :o

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 14:59, Saturday

5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory

A destroyer for proto (i don't know if i need this in the campaign, I wait Major Heinz to tell me, so for now i keep it). And so many new units!! (randowe :bow :bow :bow )
2225 pp and 2 units to add.
Tank -> Pz IVE
ATY -> 150mm K18
Sell max ammo att of my TB and upgrate Cavalry to Grenadiere 40 and Inf (mot) 38 to 40 (free). Also tpt halftrack to one of them. 47 pp left.

At 1st round move slow but enemy damaged a lot of aux. Also enemy airforce is strong, italian fighters sucks. Turn by turn i won at the air with the help of aux Flaks. At the ground my core had no pro and at the end after the sacrifice of the aux, i capture all VH. A nice leader to my favourite 88mm AT/ATY. LTBV but i see that enemy had 4 aircrafts that i did not see them at the battle.
This scenario has very good time limit and i believe that it could had less aux. Great job again Major Heinz.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
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Campaign score: 255 * Average: 51

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Current scenario: Battle of Tobruk, VH prestige is 800 , All map prestige is: 840
Army cost: 11280 , Current prestige is 1717
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 12
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 1531
if BV: +300, Fortress Brest , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 550
if V : +200, Fortress Brest , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 550
if TV: +100, Fortress Brest , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 550
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 550

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 321 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 9 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+37 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 261 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 8 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+24 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 261 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 8 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+47 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 515 exp , Germany , 7/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 13 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+65 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 3 bars , 368 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 9 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+26 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 3 bars , 385 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 9 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+120 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 2 bars , 292 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 9 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+79 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 2 bars , 276 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 30 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+49 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 336 pp - U:016 [+6 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 1 bars , 140 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 468 pp - U:170 [+40 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 4 bars , 446 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Recon, 5 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+65 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 1 bars , 193 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Recon, 1 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+39 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 3 bars , 341 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+72 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 4 bars , 406 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 312 pp - U:013 [+112 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/17 , , 2 bars , 206 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+61 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 4 bars , 422 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 3 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+113 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 3 bars , 319 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 4 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+65 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 2 bars , 292 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 3 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+81 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 1 bars , 119 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1368 pp - U:171 [+19 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 313 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , 3 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+20 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 4 bars , 495 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 8 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+58 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 3 bars , 303 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 8 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+110 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 627 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fire Discipline , 6 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+186 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 4 bars , 404 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 1 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+130 exp]

Destroyer
+ Kanonenboot 1937 , , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:023

Player 1 : Germany, Italy
Killed: INF:151 TNK:13 RCN:15 AT:15 FLAK:12 FORT:36 ATY:26 AD:8 FTR:13 TB:6 Total: 295
Lost : INF:21 RCN:2 AT:2 FLAK:4 ATY:1 FTR:1 TB:2 LB:1 Total: 34

BV 5
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 7 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2403 exp, 65 kill, 3276 pp Average: 343 exp, 9 kill, 468 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 603 exp, 41 kill, 1224 pp Average: 201 exp, 14 kill, 408 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 639 exp, 6 kill, 528 pp Average: 320 exp, 3 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 341 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp Average: 341 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 612 exp, 11 kill, 312 pp Average: 306 exp, 6 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 1152 exp, 10 kill, 2844 pp Average: 288 exp, 3 kill, 711 pp
Air-Defence * 1 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 313 exp, 3 kill, 756 pp Average: 313 exp, 3 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 798 exp, 16 kill, 1392 pp Average: 399 exp, 8 kill, 696 pp
Dive Bomber * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1031 exp, 7 kill, 948 pp Average: 516 exp, 4 kill, 474 pp
Destroyer * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 100 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 100 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 25 Units * 7 Leaders Total : 7992 exp, 167 kill, 11280 pp Average: 320 exp, 7 kill, 451 pp


Player 1 Germany, Italy has 71 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 25
Tank : 9
Recon : 3
Anti-Tank : 4
Flak : 5
Artillery : 10
Air-Defence : 4
Fighter : 5
Dive Bomber : 5
Destroyer : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 15:08, Saturday

As i see Major Heinz AAR, i can;t understand if he fights with the air reinforcements :dunno :dunno :dunno

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-12 15:10, Saturday

Dimitris GR wrote:
2022-03-12 14:59, Saturday
LTBV but i see that enemy had 4 aircrafts that i did not see them at the battle.
This is strange. Enemy air reinforcement arrive in last turn and because it is a control VH scenario, enemy last turn should be played and the planes should attack. :dunno
Anyway, I will let them come one turn earlier.
No, ships are not needed in the campaign. You can`t deploy them. In some scenarios there are only aux ships and / or enemy ships.
Edit: You can`t shoot the reinforcement down, only hurt with flak / AD or they can criple or shoot down your own planes.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 15:16, Saturday

:cool :cool :cool

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 15:22, Saturday

One more question: At the moment, no ATP is available. That will be and to the rest of the campaign? (I don't want to buy Brandeburgs if i don't use them as paratroopers)

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-12 15:34, Saturday

Yes, because I don`t like playing with paratroopers. Also in most scenarios are not really VHs which are to take with just two or three paratrooper units.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-12 15:43, Saturday

:yes :howdy :howdy

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-13 15:02, Sunday

7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory

After 5 reloads i finaly have no proto (the 1st was AT, the 2nd a recon, 3rd AT and 4th inf). Major Heinz is it your choice?
I ll sell my destroyer and i ll keep a proto only if is a class that i don't have proto. (It means if i get AT ptoto i reload but if i get Tank i ll keep it)
For now, 1916 pp, sell my destroyer and i have 2144 pp. I have to buy 3 units.
inf -> Grenadiere 40, AT -> Dicker Max, ATY -> 150mm NbWf41. 356 pp left, and add to my new ATY special munition and fast speed.

At deploy the aux TB has no ammo and i find it when it makes his move. R.I.P. by 2 enemy fighters.
I find the enemies gain leaders, a lot of leaders very easy (even camouflage), it seems that is Major Heinz choice. The Soviet tank is perfect.
Well, this is a type of battle that i don't like. Enemey is everywhere and i can't make a plan. At 4th round some serius reinforcements aux arrived that helped a lot. Some of my units are lethal. Dicker Max for this time of war is unbeatable.
1 leader to MSU, 1 leader to my Gnenadiere (and 1 to my Flak that i delete).
Αlthough is a type of battle that i don't like, i enjoy this and i' ll play again and again.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53
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Campaign score: 363 * Average: 51

..
Current scenario: Uman Pocket, VH prestige is 450 , All map prestige is: 510
Army cost: 15528 , Current prestige is 3024
Prestige available on map yet is 30 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 14
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 1501
if BV: +300, Kiew Pocket , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 2080
if V : +200, Kiew Pocket , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 2080
if TV: +100, Kiew Pocket , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 2080
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 2080

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 11 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+116 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 404 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 10 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+75 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 393 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 11 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+53 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 641 exp , Germany , 10/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 18 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+47 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 513 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 11 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+50 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 507 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 13 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+65 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 4 bars , 442 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Devastating Fire , 20 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+120 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 298 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 3 kill , 564 pp - U:027 [+29 exp]
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 223 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:156 [+103 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 3 bars , 379 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 46 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+83 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 2 bars , 283 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 9 kill , 336 pp - U:016 [+36 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 1 bars , 193 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 11 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+11 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 2 bars , 216 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 7 kill , 552 pp - U:157 [+96 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 5 bars , 584 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Influence , Recon, 10 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+75 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 3 bars , 323 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Recon, 3 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+46 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 4 bars , 468 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 16 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+43 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 1 bars , 159 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+39 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 4 bars , 443 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 9 kill , 312 pp - U:013 [+22 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/17 , , 3 bars , 327 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+71 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 697 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 4 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+81 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 3 bars , 380 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 6 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+48 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 3 bars , 393 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 5 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+48 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 2 bars , 210 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+47 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 1 bars , 161 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 1 kill , 504 pp - U:155 [+41 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 386 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , 6 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+30 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 6/2 im Erdkampf , , 2 bars , 214 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 444 pp - U:028 [+104 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 626 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 12 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+79 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 4 bars , 482 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , 13 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+70 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 849 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 6 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+107 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 606 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+106 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 2 bars , 269 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+79 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Hungary, Romania
Killed: INF:226 TNK:23 RCN:19 AT:26 FLAK:17 FORT:48 ATY:39 AD:11 FTR:18 TB:8 Total: 435
Lost : INF:28 RCN:2 AT:2 FLAK:4 ATY:1 FTR:1 TB:3 LB:1 Total: 42

BV 7
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 5 Leaders Total : 3957 exp, 98 kill, 4248 pp Average: 440 exp, 11 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1071 exp, 73 kill, 1776 pp Average: 268 exp, 18 kill, 444 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 907 exp, 13 kill, 528 pp Average: 454 exp, 7 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 627 exp, 16 kill, 876 pp Average: 314 exp, 8 kill, 438 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 770 exp, 17 kill, 312 pp Average: 385 exp, 9 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 1841 exp, 16 kill, 3348 pp Average: 368 exp, 3 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 600 exp, 8 kill, 1200 pp Average: 300 exp, 4 kill, 600 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1108 exp, 25 kill, 1392 pp Average: 554 exp, 13 kill, 696 pp
Dive Bomber * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1724 exp, 12 kill, 1848 pp Average: 575 exp, 4 kill, 616 pp
* Summary: * 31 Units * 13 Leaders Total : 12605 exp, 278 kill, 15528 pp Average: 407 exp, 9 kill, 501 pp


Player 1 Germany, Hungary, Romania has 68 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 25
Tank : 7
Recon : 6
Anti-Tank : 4
Flak : 5
Artillery : 11
Air-Defence : 3
Fighter : 3
Dive Bomber : 4
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-13 15:05, Sunday

As at previus scen, i have 6 times restart and 6 times i have proto. Is it your choice?
And the map Kiew Pocket is it tiled?

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-13 15:30, Sunday

It is okay, if you keep the protos. I always kept them. But I also got some weaker protos. A few of them I uploaded before to the scenario in a unit which I like more.
You haven`t posted a AAR of Fortress Brest. How do you like the scenario?
This chaotic situation at Uman you have to face in more scenarios of the campaign. In 1942 german armour is superior. So suprise and confusion is the only chance for attacking enemy to make damage.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-13 15:38, Sunday

:bonk :bonk :bonk
If someone can edit and move this before

6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory

2017 pp and 4 new units (3 for me, because i had 1 Flak proto. Also Major Heinz informe me that ships can;t deploy, so i ll sell my destryer, but later. In this point theese 228 pp will be major help for me and i don't want it.
Inf -> Panzerpioniere 38, AD -> Sd.Kfz. 6/2 im Erdkampf, TB -> Ju 88A-13. 109pp left.

Again i had a perfect begin. I deploy most of my core to north and without problem i cross the river. At south aux with some of my core, had problems but after 5-6 turns capture the city. Then i left my aux and with my core travel east and capture VH. I believe it was easy battle, maybe will be better with less aux, or more enemies.
4 new leaders: 2 inf( 1 devastaving fire), recon, fighter.
*1 aux unit had the transport with 96 movement, i did not use it

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 26th February 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
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Campaign score: 310 * Average: 51

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Current scenario: Fortress Brest, VH prestige is 759 , All map prestige is: 957
Army cost: 13188 , Current prestige is 1616
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 11
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 35
if BV: +300, Uman Pocket , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 550
if V : +200, Uman Pocket , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 650
if TV: +100, Uman Pocket , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 750
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 750

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 420 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 11 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+99 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 329 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 9 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+68 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 340 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 10 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+79 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 594 exp , Germany , 9/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 17 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+79 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 4 bars , 463 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 10 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+95 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 4 bars , 442 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 12 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+57 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 3 bars , 322 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Devastating Fire , 13 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+30 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 2 bars , 269 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 1 kill , 564 pp - U:114 [+159 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 2 bars , 296 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 37 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+20 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 2 bars , 247 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 336 pp - U:016 [+60 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 1 bars , 182 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+42 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 5 bars , 509 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Influence , Recon, 6 kill , 264 pp - U:006 [+63 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 2 bars , 277 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+84 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 4 bars , 425 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+84 exp]

Flak
MG 38 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 4 bars , 421 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 8 kill , 312 pp - U:013 [+15 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/17 , , 2 bars , 256 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+50 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 616 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 4 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+194 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 3 bars , 332 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 4 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+13 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 3 bars , 345 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 4 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+53 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 1 bars , 163 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+44 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 356 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , 4 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+43 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 6/2 im Erdkampf , , 1 bars , 110 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 444 pp - U:115

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 547 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 11 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+52 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 4 bars , 412 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Influence , 10 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+109 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 742 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Fire Discipline , 6 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+115 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 500 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+96 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 1 bars , 190 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 900 pp - U:113 [+80 exp]

Destroyer
+ Kanonenboot 1937 , , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:023

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:178 TNK:15 RCN:17 AT:19 FLAK:14 FORT:48 ATY:32 AD:9 FTR:15 TB:6 Total: 353
Lost : INF:21 RCN:2 AT:2 FLAK:4 ATY:1 FTR:1 TB:2 LB:1 Total: 34

BV 6
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 8 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3179 exp, 83 kill, 3840 pp Average: 397 exp, 10 kill, 480 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 725 exp, 51 kill, 1224 pp Average: 242 exp, 17 kill, 408 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 786 exp, 8 kill, 528 pp Average: 393 exp, 4 kill, 264 pp
Anti-Tank * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 425 exp, 12 kill, 0 pp Average: 425 exp, 12 kill, 0 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 677 exp, 13 kill, 312 pp Average: 339 exp, 7 kill, 156 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 1456 exp, 12 kill, 2844 pp Average: 364 exp, 3 kill, 711 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 466 exp, 4 kill, 1200 pp Average: 233 exp, 2 kill, 600 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 959 exp, 21 kill, 1392 pp Average: 480 exp, 11 kill, 696 pp
Dive Bomber * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1432 exp, 10 kill, 1848 pp Average: 477 exp, 3 kill, 616 pp
Destroyer * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 100 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 100 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
* Summary: * 28 Units * 11 Leaders Total : 10205 exp, 214 kill, 13188 pp Average: 364 exp, 8 kill, 471 pp


Player 1 Germany has 56 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 22
Tank : 3
Recon : 4
Anti-Tank : 4
Flak : 3
Artillery : 8
Air-Defence : 3
Fighter : 3
Dive Bomber : 5
Destroyer : 1

Player 2 USSR has 1 units total (core+aux):
Fortification : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by randowe » 2022-03-13 23:20, Sunday

:howdy Dimitris and Major Heinz, i will send you a email in the afternoon/evening with the newest efile files, correcting the typo with the transport going 96 hex. Also, like always, some new units, like the StuG we talked about.
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-14 13:48, Monday

:howdy Clemens
I am working on Wintergewitter right now. But I think it will dure a little bit longer, since I have to play the scenario before the first test to check when soviet reinforcements should arrive to attack players flanks. After testing the scenario I will write the texts and send the newest version to you.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by randowe » 2022-03-14 15:13, Monday

I just send the email to both of you :howdy
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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-15 16:43, Tuesday

I have sent to both of you the changed scenarios and the two new scenarios.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-15 17:58, Tuesday

8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory

6 restarts, 6 proto: 2 inf, 1 ship, 1 AT, 1 FTR, 1 TB....
Anyway finaly fighter proto, Fw 190A-3/U4. Buy 2 units, TB -> Ju 88A-13, Recon -> BA - 10 203 (r).
2112 pp left and upgrates:
inf 38(mot) to inf 40(mot) free
AD Sd.Kfz. 6/2 im Erdkampf to Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18
Flak MG 38 to Sd.Kfz 7/1, Sd.Kfz 251/17 to Sd.Kfz 7/1
Recon Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) to Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40)
Add att fast speed to my 2 AD and to my ATY 105mm leFH18. 51 pp left.

THAT WAS HARD. Huge map, with enemy units split. I left 48 (!!!!) enemy units.. 28 of my aux K.I.A.
My english are bad to say what happends in this epic battle. At air all my aux fighters destroyed. After many many turns i killed all enemy airforce.
At ground, i left behind all the entr inf and with my aux and some core try to capture kiev. All my rest core with some aux try to get close to enemy exit points. About 10-12 round i capture Kiev and then slowly move to east. My rest units had no big problems except some enemy units that was everywhere. At the end enemy was encircle. I am sure that from 48 enemy units left, there are units that are not entr inf, but end good. No unit escape.
I gain my last leader (14 is Major Heinz limit) to inf, must be my rare, no tank leader.
Great job Major Heinz, that was hard, i am so tired after this but i enjoy this. Keep up good work!!!!!!

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 14th March 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: Fw 190A-3/U4
8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
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Campaign score: 414 * Average: 51

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Current scenario: Kiew Pocket, VH prestige is 50 , All map prestige is: 110
Army cost: 17712 , Current prestige is 281
Prestige available on map yet is 15 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 23
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 50007
if BV: +300, Ladoga Lake , cap disabled, 22 turns prestige: 110
if V : +200, Ladoga Lake , cap disabled, 22 turns prestige: 110
if TV: +100, Ladoga Lake , cap disabled, 22 turns prestige: 110
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 110

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 603 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 13 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+67 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 452 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 11 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+48 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 492 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 13 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+99 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 710 exp , Germany , 3/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 21 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+69 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 571 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 12 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+58 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 607 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 19 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+100 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 554 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Devastating Fire , 26 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+112 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 385 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Resilience , 6 kill , 564 pp - U:027 [+87 exp]
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 317 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 7 kill , 408 pp - U:030 [+94 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 4 bars , 493 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 68 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+114 exp]
PzKpfw II (Fl) , , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 13 kill , 336 pp - U:016 [+51 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 2 bars , 285 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 21 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+92 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 3 bars , 346 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 23 kill , 552 pp - U:031 [+130 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40) , , 5 bars , 693 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Influence , Recon, 14 kill , 840 pp - U:006 [+109 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 4 bars , 401 exp , Germany , 1/10 , Recon, 6 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+78 exp]
PzSpWg BA-10 203(r) , , 2 bars , 244 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:390 [+114 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 5 bars , 554 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 21 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+86 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 3 bars , 336 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 3 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+177 exp]

Flak
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 4 bars , 499 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 11 kill , 396 pp - U:013 [+56 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 4 bars , 401 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 9 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+74 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 794 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Overwhelming Attack , Fast Speed, 6 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+97 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 4 bars , 424 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Shock Tactics , 8 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+44 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 4 bars , 486 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 7 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+93 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 2 bars , 249 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+39 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 2 bars , 241 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 2 kill , 504 pp - U:029 [+80 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 4 bars , 477 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 8 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+91 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 300 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Fast Speed, 5 kill , 756 pp - U:028 [+86 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 779 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 16 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+153 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 5 bars , 657 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , 18 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+175 exp]
+ Fw 190A-3/U4 , , 2 bars , 239 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:032 [+109 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 1052 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fire Discipline , 8 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+203 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 716 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+110 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 3 bars , 336 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+67 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 1 bars , 189 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 3 kill , 900 pp - U:391 [+59 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:353 TNK:32 RCN:28 AT:42 FLAK:31 FORT:58 ATY:62 AD:17 FTR:22 TB:10 Total: 655
Lost : INF:42 RCN:3 AT:4 FLAK:8 ATY:1 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:5 LB:2 Total: 70

BV 8
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 4691 exp, 128 kill, 4248 pp Average: 521 exp, 14 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1458 exp, 125 kill, 1776 pp Average: 365 exp, 31 kill, 444 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1338 exp, 22 kill, 1416 pp Average: 446 exp, 7 kill, 472 pp
Anti-Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 890 exp, 24 kill, 876 pp Average: 445 exp, 12 kill, 438 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 900 exp, 20 kill, 396 pp Average: 450 exp, 10 kill, 198 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2194 exp, 23 kill, 3348 pp Average: 439 exp, 5 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 777 exp, 13 kill, 1512 pp Average: 389 exp, 7 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1675 exp, 35 kill, 1392 pp Average: 558 exp, 12 kill, 464 pp
Dive Bomber * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2293 exp, 18 kill, 2748 pp Average: 573 exp, 5 kill, 687 pp
* Summary: * 34 Units * 14 Leaders Total : 16216 exp, 408 kill, 17712 pp Average: 477 exp, 12 kill, 521 pp


Player 1 Germany has 95 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 31
Tank : 11
Recon : 6
Anti-Tank : 11
Flak : 3
Artillery : 15
Air-Defence : 7
Fighter : 3
Dive Bomber : 7
Level Bomber : 1

Player 2 USSR has 48 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 48

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-15 18:02, Tuesday

Major Heinz wrote:
2022-03-15 16:43, Tuesday
I have sent to both of you the changed scenarios and the two new scenarios.
Nothing to my email Major Heinz.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-15 19:16, Tuesday

You`re right. I thought that I will automatically send the mail, if I will answer randowes mail to us, but nope. :bonk :bonk :bonk
Now you shgould have post.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-15 19:32, Tuesday

OK i have it.
Questions:
1.I just unzip it to scenario folder of Atomic?
2.There are changes before scenario 8 (Kiew Pockett)?
3.In scenario 9, i had no aux and i gain leader No 15. It is OK?

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-15 19:48, Tuesday

1. Yes.
2. Yes, but nothing important. I just changed the transporters to avoid the 96 movement problem (not necessaray anymore since randowe has sent a corrected efile version) and that the air reinforcement at Tobruk will arrive one turn earlier. Just if you want to start the campaign maybe in a half year again, or so (I think maybe the campaign will be finished end of the year but maybe it will take more time :lol ).
3. Yes, no aux. It is just a small map with less enemy units. A relaxing scenario after huge Kiew. 15th leader: Okay, now I know that you can get 15th leader even if some aux unit in another later scenario has a leader. :idea
You should decide. Sometimes the leadered aux unit has a good leader, but you probably will have to reload everytimes if you get the 15th leader. It is more relaxing to accept 15th leader.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-15 20:12, Tuesday

Thanks!!!!

9 Ladoga Lake , #8 , Brilliant Victory

I just upgrate my flame tank to Pz IVE and add max speed to my Dicker Max.
Major heinz was right, this is easy scenario, with small map and not much enemies. After Kiev was a nice walk to the lake. A few problems with enemy ships. I decide to keep the 15h leader (Aggr. attack to Tank)

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 14th March 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: Fw 190A-3/U4
8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
9 Ladoga Lake , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
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Campaign score: 469 * Average: 52

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Current scenario: Ladoga Lake, VH prestige is 95 , All map prestige is: 135
Army cost: 17844 , Current prestige is 232
Prestige available on map yet is 10 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 9
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 316
if BV: +300, Chernigowka Pocket , cap disabled, 9 turns prestige: 45
if V : +200, Chernigowka Pocket , cap disabled, 10 turns prestige: 50
if TV: +100, Chernigowka Pocket , cap disabled, 11 turns prestige: 55
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 55

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 619 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 14 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+16 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 493 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 12 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+41 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 536 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 13 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+44 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 795 exp , Germany , 6/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 23 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+85 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 612 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 12 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+41 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 672 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 20 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+65 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 622 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Devastating Fire , 30 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+68 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 457 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Resilience , 6 kill , 564 pp - U:027 [+72 exp]
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 333 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 408 pp - U:030 [+16 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 5 bars , 510 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 72 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+17 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 3 bars , 379 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 18 kill , 468 pp - U:016 [+45 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 3 bars , 338 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Aggressive Attack , 27 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+53 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 3 bars , 391 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 29 kill , 552 pp - U:031 [+45 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40) , , 5 bars , 738 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , Recon, 14 kill , 840 pp - U:006 [+45 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 4 bars , 430 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Recon, 6 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+29 exp]
PzSpWg BA-10 203(r) , , 2 bars , 294 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:033 [+50 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 5 bars , 582 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 23 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+28 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 3 bars , 377 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fast Speed, 4 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+41 exp]

Flak
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 5 bars , 516 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 12 kill , 396 pp - U:013 [+17 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 4 bars , 438 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+37 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 838 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Overwhelming Attack , Fast Speed, 7 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+44 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 4 bars , 455 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Shock Tactics , 8 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+31 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 5 bars , 514 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 7 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+28 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 2 bars , 294 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+45 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 2 bars , 259 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 2 kill , 504 pp - U:029 [+18 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 4 bars , 494 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 11 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+17 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 324 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Fast Speed, 5 kill , 756 pp - U:028 [+24 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 832 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 19 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+53 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 5 bars , 708 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Influence , 19 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+51 exp]
+ Fw 190A-3/U4 , , 2 bars , 273 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:032 [+34 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 1100 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Fire Discipline , 8 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+48 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 737 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+21 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 3 bars , 394 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 5 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+58 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 2 bars , 239 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 4 kill , 900 pp - U:034 [+50 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:380 TNK:34 RCN:30 AT:44 FLAK:32 FORT:58 ATY:66 AD:19 FTR:24 TB:12 DD:1 Total: 700
Lost : INF:42 RCN:3 AT:4 FLAK:8 ATY:1 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:5 LB:2 Total: 70

BV 9
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 5139 exp, 138 kill, 4248 pp Average: 571 exp, 15 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1618 exp, 146 kill, 1908 pp Average: 405 exp, 37 kill, 477 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1462 exp, 22 kill, 1416 pp Average: 487 exp, 7 kill, 472 pp
Anti-Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 959 exp, 27 kill, 876 pp Average: 480 exp, 14 kill, 438 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 954 exp, 22 kill, 396 pp Average: 477 exp, 11 kill, 198 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2360 exp, 24 kill, 3348 pp Average: 472 exp, 5 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 818 exp, 16 kill, 1512 pp Average: 409 exp, 8 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1813 exp, 39 kill, 1392 pp Average: 604 exp, 13 kill, 464 pp
Dive Bomber * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2470 exp, 19 kill, 2748 pp Average: 618 exp, 5 kill, 687 pp
* Summary: * 34 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 17593 exp, 453 kill, 17844 pp Average: 517 exp, 13 kill, 525 pp


Player 1 Germany has 34 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 9
Tank : 4
Recon : 3
Anti-Tank : 2
Flak : 2
Artillery : 5
Air-Defence : 2
Fighter : 3
Dive Bomber : 4

Player 2 USSR has 1 units total (core+aux):
Destroyer : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-15 23:10, Tuesday

10 Chernigowka Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:52

TB for proto ( i ll keep it), and i have to buy 1 Tank. With 532 pp Pz IVE is the best. (199 exp, thanks Major Heinz).
Another great battle. Hard at the begin, i defend well at east and round by round i was push from west and north. I had to spend 184 pp for my tank that was damaged by a KV-2 (range 3 tank). The last turns was easy, i just hunting soviets. Nice work again Major Heinz.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 14th March 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: Fw 190A-3/U4
8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
9 Ladoga Lake , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Ju 87D-3
10 Chernigowka Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:52
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Campaign score: 521 * Average: 52

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Current scenario: Chernigowka Pocket, VH prestige is 165 , All map prestige is: 375
Army cost: 18312 , Current prestige is 615
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 13
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 1532
if BV: +300, Brjansk Pocket , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 360
if V : +200, Brjansk Pocket , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 360
if TV: +100, Brjansk Pocket , cap disabled, 12 turns prestige: 360
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 360

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 643 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 17 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+24 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 4 bars , 497 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 13 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+4 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 568 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 16 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+32 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 815 exp , Germany , 10/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 25 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+20 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 617 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 13 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+5 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 693 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 23 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+21 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 672 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Devastating Fire , 33 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+50 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 551 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Resilience , 7 kill , 564 pp - U:027 [+94 exp]
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 369 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 8 kill , 408 pp - U:030 [+36 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 5 bars , 563 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 81 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+53 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 4 bars , 439 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 26 kill , 468 pp - U:016 [+60 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 3 bars , 390 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Aggressive Attack , 38 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+52 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 5 bars , 510 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 45 kill , 552 pp - U:031 [+119 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 2 bars , 253 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 468 pp - U:209 [+54 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40) , , 5 bars , 777 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Influence , Recon, 14 kill , 840 pp - U:006 [+39 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 5 bars , 522 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 7 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+92 exp]
PzSpWg BA-10 203(r) , , 3 bars , 333 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 2 kill , 312 pp - U:033 [+39 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ Sd.Kfz. 251/9 , , 5 bars , 625 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 26 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+43 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 4 bars , 400 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 6 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+23 exp]

Flak
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 5 bars , 546 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 15 kill , 396 pp - U:013 [+30 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 4 bars , 459 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+21 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 971 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , Fast Speed, 9 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+133 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 5 bars , 505 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Shock Tactics , 9 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+50 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 5 bars , 561 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Street Fighter , 8 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+47 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+40 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 3 bars , 313 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 3 kill , 504 pp - U:029 [+54 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 5 bars , 554 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 11 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+60 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 6 kill , 756 pp - U:028 [+10 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 924 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 21 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+92 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 5 bars , 737 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Influence , 23 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+29 exp]
+ Fw 190A-3/U4 , , 3 bars , 336 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:032 [+63 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 1176 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 9 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+76 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 780 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+43 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 4 bars , 483 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 5 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+89 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 2 bars , 280 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 900 pp - U:034 [+41 exp]
+ Ju 87D-3 , , 2 bars , 276 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:035 [+77 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:453 TNK:42 RCN:34 AT:51 FLAK:34 FORT:58 ATY:74 AD:21 FTR:27 TB:14 LB:1 DD:1 Total: 810
Lost : INF:54 RCN:4 AT:5 FLAK:8 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:5 LB:2 Total: 85

BV 10
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 5425 exp, 155 kill, 4248 pp Average: 603 exp, 17 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2155 exp, 198 kill, 2376 pp Average: 431 exp, 40 kill, 475 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1632 exp, 23 kill, 1416 pp Average: 544 exp, 8 kill, 472 pp
Anti-Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1025 exp, 32 kill, 876 pp Average: 513 exp, 16 kill, 438 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1005 exp, 25 kill, 396 pp Average: 503 exp, 13 kill, 198 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2684 exp, 30 kill, 3348 pp Average: 537 exp, 6 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 888 exp, 17 kill, 1512 pp Average: 444 exp, 9 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1997 exp, 47 kill, 1392 pp Average: 666 exp, 16 kill, 464 pp
Dive Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2995 exp, 22 kill, 2748 pp Average: 599 exp, 4 kill, 550 pp
* Summary: * 36 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 19806 exp, 549 kill, 18312 pp Average: 550 exp, 15 kill, 509 pp


Player 1 Germany, Romania has 84 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 33
Tank : 6
Recon : 7
Anti-Tank : 7
Flak : 5
Artillery : 9
Air-Defence : 3
Fighter : 6
Dive Bomber : 8

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-16 19:40, Wednesday

11 Brjansk Pocket , #10 , Brilliant Victory

Another TB for proto. I have to add one Level Bomber, so I sell proto, buy LB -> Fw 200C-4, upgrate my AT Sd.Kfz. 251/9 to Dicker Max and add recon att to BA-10.
Nice battle again, hard at the begin. When i cross the river was easy. Could BV-5 but at the end a lot of soviet reinforcements arrive at the north. I wipe them out.

OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 14th March 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: Fw 190A-3/U4
8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
9 Ladoga Lake , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Ju 87D-3
10 Chernigowka Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: Ju 87T-2
11 Brjansk Pocket , #10 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
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Campaign score: 575 * Average: 52

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Current scenario: Brjansk Pocket, VH prestige is 120 , All map prestige is: 184
Army cost: 19104 , Current prestige is 335
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 13
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 686
if BV: +300, Towards Moscow , cap disabled, 13 turns prestige: 130
if V : +200, Towards Moscow , cap disabled, 15 turns prestige: 150
if TV: +100, Towards Moscow , cap disabled, 17 turns prestige: 170
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 170

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 691 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 18 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+48 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 553 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 13 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+56 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 583 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 19 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+15 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 835 exp , Germany , 8/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 26 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+20 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 696 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 14 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+79 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 778 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 23 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+85 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 795 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Devastating Fire , 36 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+123 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 555 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Resilience , 8 kill , 564 pp - U:027 [+4 exp]
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 380 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 408 pp - U:030 [+11 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 5 bars , 643 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 90 kill , 420 pp - U:015 [+80 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 4 bars , 469 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 29 kill , 468 pp - U:016 [+30 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 4 bars , 467 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Aggressive Attack , 45 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+77 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 5 bars , 590 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 59 kill , 552 pp - U:031 [+80 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 3 bars , 314 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 21 kill , 468 pp - U:036 [+61 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40) , , 5 bars , 825 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Influence , Recon, 14 kill , 840 pp - U:006 [+48 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 5 bars , 607 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Recon, 10 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+85 exp]
PzSpWg BA-10 203(r) , , 3 bars , 353 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 312 pp - U:033 [+20 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 5 bars , 695 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 27 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+70 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 4 bars , 465 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 7 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+65 exp]

Flak
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 5 bars , 567 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 17 kill , 396 pp - U:013 [+21 exp]
+ Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 4 bars , 483 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 11 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+24 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 1068 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , Fast Speed, 9 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+97 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 5 bars , 531 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 11 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+26 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 5 bars , 608 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 8 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+47 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 3 bars , 368 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+34 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 3 kill , 504 pp - U:029 [+26 exp]

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 5 bars , 628 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 11 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+74 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 3 bars , 358 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 7 kill , 756 pp - U:028 [+24 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 996 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 22 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+72 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 5 bars , 764 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Influence , 26 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+27 exp]
+ Fw 190A-3/U4 , , 3 bars , 397 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:032 [+61 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 1251 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Fire Discipline , 10 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+75 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 801 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Recon, 4 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+21 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 5 bars , 502 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+19 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 2 bars , 298 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 6 kill , 900 pp - U:034 [+18 exp]
+ Ju 87D-3 , , 3 bars , 311 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:035 [+35 exp]

Level Bomber
Fw 200C-4 , , 2 bars , 267 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 792 pp - U:263 [+68 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:528 TNK:50 RCN:38 AT:66 FLAK:37 FORT:58 ATY:87 AD:23 FTR:32 TB:17 LB:2 DD:1 Total: 939
Lost : INF:64 RCN:4 AT:6 FLAK:9 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:5 LB:2 Total: 97

BV 11
V 0
TV 0
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 5866 exp, 165 kill, 4248 pp Average: 652 exp, 18 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2483 exp, 244 kill, 2376 pp Average: 497 exp, 49 kill, 475 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1785 exp, 26 kill, 1416 pp Average: 595 exp, 9 kill, 472 pp
Anti-Tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1160 exp, 34 kill, 876 pp Average: 580 exp, 17 kill, 438 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1050 exp, 28 kill, 396 pp Average: 525 exp, 14 kill, 198 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2914 exp, 32 kill, 3348 pp Average: 583 exp, 6 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 986 exp, 18 kill, 1512 pp Average: 493 exp, 9 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2157 exp, 54 kill, 1392 pp Average: 719 exp, 18 kill, 464 pp
Dive Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3163 exp, 25 kill, 2748 pp Average: 633 exp, 5 kill, 550 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 267 exp, 0 kill, 792 pp Average: 267 exp, 0 kill, 792 pp
* Summary: * 37 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 21831 exp, 626 kill, 19104 pp Average: 590 exp, 17 kill, 516 pp


Player 1 Germany has 120 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 56
Tank : 13
Recon : 5
Anti-Tank : 6
Flak : 5
Artillery : 14
Air-Defence : 5
Fighter : 6
Dive Bomber : 8
Level Bomber : 2

Player 2 USSR has 1 units total (core+aux):
Artillery : 1

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-16 19:48, Wednesday

I play now "Towards Moscow"
Major Heinz :whine :whine :whine :whine
WHAT IS THIS????????????????????? It is l like LOTR II and all the army of Uruk- Hai attacks me.
My plan was to drop mines but the enemy so far has a way to avoid. I don't want to restart, i'll try to survive.
Anyway, so far is the most scary battle ever!!!!!! :clap :clap :clap

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-16 20:22, Wednesday

The big problem so far is the the enemy airforce. I wish i had 1 fighter more :bullhorn :bullhorn
At ground, my idea with mines is not bad so far, my Dicker Max are great and T-34 (Pz 747) is by far my best tank. I should had my AD's and my Flak's close to my main army (near to airfield).

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-16 20:27, Wednesday

I stopped them without mines. In the south I could hold the VH with some core and aux units. In the middle I dug in on the woods. After the soviets had captured the central VH, they will go to this VH and you can stop them. Also the 88mm can help a lot. But yes, some units had gotten a very bad hit during the scenario. The most important thing is that you don`t need to win, because a loss is intended.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-17 09:01, Thursday

12 Towards Moscow , #11 , Loss

635 pp and no new unit. Add fast speed to my 2nd Dicker Max.
I move forword, capture some VH and then move back and drop mines in many places. At north was not something hard, i had so many units that did nothing.
At center after 3 rounds that i defend, i move again and recapture Kimki. If i had and the north units i could kill more enemies.
(The enemy airforce was the major problem, if a unit could not be destroyed, it could refit)
Anyway, that was an epic battle, i will play it again and i try to kill more enemies, with some changes to my strategy.
The 2 images shows before my last turn. At the second image you can see that i was not need army at the north.

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OpenGen 0.93.4.0 * 25 Dec 2020 * AI version: 2.00 (2014)
Efile folder: C:\OPEN GENERAL\efile_atomic\ * Efile version: ATOMIC EFILE Version: 14th March 2022
Campaign: 1939-45 TRAPPING AND TRAPPED, * Player prestige modifier 100% * AI prestige modifier 100%

Played Scenarios:
1 Battle of Warsaw , #0 , Brilliant Victory , score:49 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/9
2 Lille Pocket , #1 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
3 Race to Dunkirk , #2 , Brilliant Victory , score:51 +++ Proto: Sd.Kfz. 251/17
4 Vosges , #3 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Kanonenboot 1937
5 Battle of Tobruk , #4 , Brilliant Victory , score:50
6 Fortress Brest , #5 , Brilliant Victory , score:55
7 Uman Pocket , #6 , Brilliant Victory , score:53 +++ Proto: Fw 190A-3/U4
8 Kiew Pocket , #7 , Brilliant Victory , score:51
9 Ladoga Lake , #8 , Brilliant Victory , score:55 +++ Proto: Ju 87D-3
10 Chernigowka Pocket , #9 , Brilliant Victory , score:52 +++ Proto: Ju 87T-2
11 Brjansk Pocket , #10 , Brilliant Victory , score:54
12 Towards Moscow , #11 , Loss , score:-5
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Campaign score: 570 * Average: 47

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Current scenario: Towards Moscow, VH prestige is 828 , All map prestige is: 1058
Army cost: 19104 , Current prestige is 1539
Prestige available on map yet is 115 pp ( 115 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 19
AI stance is Defensive Using map: 142
if BV: +300, Demyansk Pocket , cap disabled, 18 turns prestige: 180
if V : +200, Demyansk Pocket , cap disabled, 18 turns prestige: 180
if TV: +100, Demyansk Pocket , cap disabled, 18 turns prestige: 180
if Ls: +50, Demyansk Pocket , cap disabled, 18 turns prestige: 180

Infantry
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 711 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 18 kill , 408 pp - U:001 [+20 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 579 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 14 kill , 348 pp - U:002 [+26 exp]
Infanterie (mot) 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 675 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 20 kill , 348 pp - U:003 [+92 exp]
Sturmpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 891 exp , Germany , 2/10 , First Strike , Fast Speed, 27 kill , 540 pp - U:004 [+56 exp]
Feldkommando 38 , Sd.Kfz. 251/1 , , 5 bars , 728 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Skilled Reconnaissance , 15 kill , 624 pp - U:005 [+32 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 830 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 24 kill , 504 pp - U:012 [+52 exp]
PzGren 40 auf Sd.Kfz. 251 , , 5 bars , 909 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Devastating Fire , 39 kill , 504 pp - U:019 [+114 exp]
Panzerpioniere 38 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 5 bars , 555 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Resilience , 8 kill , 564 pp - U:027
Grenadiere 40 , Sd.Kfz. 11 , , 3 bars , 396 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 8 kill , 408 pp - U:030 [+16 exp]

Tank
PzKpfw IVD , , 5 bars , 643 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 90 kill , 420 pp - U:015
PzKpfw IVE , , 5 bars , 526 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 33 kill , 468 pp - U:016 [+57 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 5 bars , 524 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Aggressive Attack , 50 kill , 468 pp - U:024 [+57 exp]
PzKpfw 747(r) , , 5 bars , 745 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 85 kill , 552 pp - U:031 [+155 exp]
PzKpfw IVE , , 3 bars , 359 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 26 kill , 468 pp - U:036 [+45 exp]

Recon
Sd.Kfz. 250/3 (HQ 40) , , 5 bars , 938 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Influence , Recon, 14 kill , 840 pp - U:006 [+113 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 231 (8-rad) , , 5 bars , 700 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Recon, 10 kill , 264 pp - U:022 [+93 exp]
PzSpWg BA-10 203(r) , , 3 bars , 391 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Recon, 2 kill , 312 pp - U:033 [+38 exp]

Anti-Tank
+ PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 5 bars , 802 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fast Speed, 27 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+107 exp]
PzSfl IVA Dicker Max , , 5 bars , 546 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Fast Speed, 7 kill , 876 pp - U:023 [+81 exp]
+ StuH 42 , , 2 bars , 246 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:197 [+47 exp]

Flak
Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 5 bars , 567 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 17 kill , 396 pp - U:013
+ Sd.Kfz. 7/1 , , 5 bars , 513 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 12 kill , 0 pp - U:021 [+30 exp]

Artillery
105mm leFH18 , Mercedes-Benz L3000 A , , 5 bars , 1185 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , Fast Speed, 9 kill , 372 pp - U:007 [+117 exp]
88mm AT/ATY , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 5 bars , 585 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 14 kill , 660 pp - U:008 [+54 exp]
100mm Nebelwerfer 35 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 5 bars , 611 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Street Fighter , 8 kill , 444 pp - U:020 [+3 exp]
150mm K18 , Sd.Kfz. 7 , , 4 bars , 449 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 1368 pp - U:025 [+81 exp]
150mm NbWf41 , Sd.Kfz. 10 , , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Special Munition, Fast Speed, 3 kill , 504 pp - U:029

Air-Defence
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 5 bars , 700 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Combat Support , Fast Speed, 11 kill , 756 pp - U:014 [+72 exp]
Sd.Kfz. 9 mit 88mm Flak 18 , , 4 bars , 417 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Fast Speed, 8 kill , 756 pp - U:028 [+59 exp]

Fighter
Fw 187A-0 , , 5 bars , 1135 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Battlefield Intelligence , 28 kill , 708 pp - U:011 [+139 exp]
Bf 109E-7 , , 5 bars , 862 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Influence , 30 kill , 684 pp - U:017 [+98 exp]
+ Fw 190A-3/U4 , , 5 bars , 557 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:032 [+160 exp]

Dive Bomber
Ju 87B-1 , , 5 bars , 1417 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Fire Discipline , 12 kill , 504 pp - U:009 [+166 exp]
Fw 189A-1 , , 5 bars , 975 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Recon, 4 kill , 444 pp - U:018 [+174 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 5 bars , 562 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 900 pp - U:026 [+60 exp]
Ju 88A-13 , , 4 bars , 451 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 8 kill , 900 pp - U:034 [+153 exp]
+ Ju 87D-3 , , 4 bars , 429 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:035 [+118 exp]

Level Bomber
Fw 200C-4 , , 4 bars , 404 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 792 pp - U:037 [+137 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:561 TNK:63 RCN:43 AT:72 FLAK:40 FORT:59 ATY:101 AD:24 FTR:39 TB:23 LB:3 DD:1 Total: 1029
Lost : INF:67 RCN:5 AT:6 FLAK:9 ATY:2 AD:1 FTR:4 TB:6 LB:2 Total: 102

BV 11
V 0
TV 0
L 1

Averages:
Infantry * 9 Units * 6 Leaders Total : 6274 exp, 173 kill, 4248 pp Average: 697 exp, 19 kill, 472 pp
Tank * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2797 exp, 284 kill, 2376 pp Average: 559 exp, 57 kill, 475 pp
Recon * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 2029 exp, 26 kill, 1416 pp Average: 676 exp, 9 kill, 472 pp
Anti-Tank * 3 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1594 exp, 36 kill, 876 pp Average: 531 exp, 12 kill, 292 pp
Flak * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 1080 exp, 29 kill, 396 pp Average: 540 exp, 15 kill, 198 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 3169 exp, 35 kill, 3348 pp Average: 634 exp, 7 kill, 670 pp
Air-Defence * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1117 exp, 19 kill, 1512 pp Average: 559 exp, 10 kill, 756 pp
Fighter * 3 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2554 exp, 65 kill, 1392 pp Average: 851 exp, 22 kill, 464 pp
Dive Bomber * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 3834 exp, 32 kill, 2748 pp Average: 767 exp, 6 kill, 550 pp
Level Bomber * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 404 exp, 0 kill, 792 pp Average: 404 exp, 0 kill, 792 pp
* Summary: * 38 Units * 15 Leaders Total : 24852 exp, 699 kill, 19104 pp Average: 654 exp, 18 kill, 503 pp


Player 1 Germany has 57 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 19
Tank : 5
Recon : 4
Anti-Tank : 5
Flak : 3
Artillery : 7
Air-Defence : 3
Fighter : 5
Dive Bomber : 5
Level Bomber : 1

Player 2 USSR has 48 units total (core+aux):
Infantry : 14
Anti-Tank : 13
Fortification : 15
Artillery : 4
Air-Defence : 2

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-17 11:44, Thursday

Maybe you should have bought a fighter ace with combat support. I had bought one at Kiew and this make things easier in the air for me.

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-03-17 13:00, Thursday

:bonk :bonk :bonk And at Demyansk Pocket i buy a Fw. :irate :irate :irate

When is the next Fighter purchase????

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Re: Dimitris Playtest TRAPPING AND TRAPPED

Post by Major Heinz » 2022-03-17 13:07, Thursday

I think there will be no, but you can also upgrade a fighter. ;)

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