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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by stanton » 2022-09-02 18:02, Friday

fine work randowe :yes


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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-03 11:05, Saturday

stanton wrote:
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fine work randowe :yes
Thanks :howdy

At the moment i am rethinking my future plans. Maybe i should just skip the german campaign and add the new scenarios/maps to the Weltkrieg campaign. 80 scenarios is better than 73 scenarios :lol

I definitely plan to add these 4 scenarios to the Weltkrieg campaign:

- 1940 Battle of Britain/Adlertag/Operation Adlerangriff. Air battle only.
- 1941 Corinth/Athens. There will also be a unit choice screen. The player can choose between a 12 sp para-scout, para-MG or paratroopers.
- 1942 Rostov II. Scenario will be between Sevastopol and Stalingrad I.
- 1942 Stalingrad II(I). Since i am working on a new Stalingrad map for Major Heinz (map is finished, i just have to create the mapx file) i decided to use this map as well.

Then i could also add the new Mykolaiv/Kherson map. And it would be nice to have another jungle map (like Tarakan) near the end of the campaign. We'll see. Once the Corinth/Athens map is finished i will start updating the Weltkrieg campaign and also start playing a new run of the campaign.
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-06 13:18, Tuesday

Ok, so i decided to add the 4 maps/scenarios mentioned in the previous thread to the Weltkrieg campaign and keep the other Russia and Ukraine maps for the other german campaign, Ostfront. So that campaign also has some exclusive maps.

Still, i want to add one more scenario near the end of the Weltkrieg campaign. Should be some interesting and rather "exotic" map. Some options are:

- San Diego, USA
- Natal, Brazil
- Darwin, Australia,
- Balikpapan, Borneo, Indonesia
- Lingayen Gulf, Philippines
- Leyte, Philippines
- Bataan and Manila, Philippines
- enlarged SSI PEG map 155, Taipei, Taiwan
- Cape Town, South Africa

[EDIT: i already dismissed the Panama Canal because such a map would take much too long]
[EDIT2: the Charleston, USA, map would also be interesting and suitable for enlargment. Would be very easy to enlarge the already existing map :yes ]

Everyone please feel free to submit your ideas and suggestions :howdy
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-09-06 14:38, Tuesday

I vote Cape Town :bullhorn

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-08 14:35, Thursday

Dimitris GR wrote:
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I vote Cape Town :bullhorn
So be it :cool
Then we have the following scenarios that will be added to the campaign > see list below. There will also be a Charleston scenario because the map will be easy to create and i will add Mykolaiv/Kherson because 79 scenarios would be a odd number and 80 is much better :cool
I am pretty sure the USA reactivated all the old Civil War forts around Charleston and when the player arrives on the scene the US artillery is bombing Fort Sumter, which changed sides :lol
I will also remove the leader from the submarine the player gets in the first bonus scenario. I want the player to decide which leaders he/she wants and so i don't want have one leader sport occupied already. The players should choose their favorite leaders because playing 80 scenarios with bad and unwanted leaders is no fun. I will also make it more clear in the intro text that the player is encouraged to play with a set of favorite leaders.

- 1940 Battle of Britain/Adlertag/Operation Adlerangriff. Air battle only.
- 1941 Corinth/Athens. There will also be a unit choice screen. The player can choose between a 12 sp para-scout, para-MG or paratroopers.
- 1941 Mykolaiv and Kherson
- 1942 Rostov II. Scenario will be between Sevastopol and Stalingrad I.
- 1942 Stalingrad II(I). Since i am working on a new Stalingrad map for Major Heinz (map is finished, i just have to create the mapx file) i decided to use this map as well.
- 1946 Charleston
- 1947 Cape Town / Cape of Good Hope

Final campaign path with 80 scenarios:

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No /   ships /	scenario name /			date /		note

01	+	Battle of Mallorca		Aug 16, 1938	
02	+	Battle of Westerplatte		Sep  1, 1939
03 BONUS        Scapa Flow '39			Oct 13, 1939    Player gets Leader Submarine
04	+	Operation Weserübung		Apr  9, 1940
05	+	Battle of Narvik I              Apr  9, 1940
06	+	Battle of Narvik II             Apr 28, 1940
07	+	Fortress Holland	        May 12, 1940
08		Battle of France	        May 21, 1940
09 	+	Race to the Sea			May 26, 1940
10	+	Race to Dunkirk          	May 27, 1940
11		Operation Adlerangriff		Aug 13, 1940	(air battle only)
12	+	Operation Sonnenblume	 	Mar 10, 1941	(Arrival in Libya)
13	+	Siege of Tobruk '41             Apr  8, 1941
14	+	Battle of Thermopylae           Apr 24, 1941
15	+	Battle of Athens		Apr 26, 1941
16	+	Operation Merkur                May 15, 1941	(Crete)
17	+	Dardanelles Breakthrough 	Jun 25, 1941
18		Operation München		Jul  2, 1941	(River Prut Crossing)
19	+	Battle of Narva                 Jul  9, 1941
20	+	Siege of Odessa			Aug  5, 1941
21	+	Battle of Kherson		Aug 11,	1941
22		Battle of Novgorod              Aug 14, 1941
23	+	Invasion of Karelia             Aug 18, 1941
24		Kremenchuk Bridgehead		Sep  1, 1941
25	+	Battle of the Sea of Azov	Oct  8, 1941
26	+	Capturing Taganrog		Oct 15, 1941
27	+	Battle of Rostov I              Nov 22, 1941
28	+	Operation Trappenjagd		May  8, 1942
29	+	Siege of Sevastopol		Jun  7, 1942
30	+	Battle of Rostov II		Jul 19, 1942
31		Battle of Stalingrad I          Jul 29, 1942
32		Battle of Stalingrad II         Aug  2, 1942
33	+	Operation Blücher		Aug  8, 1942	(Taman-Peninsula)
34	+	Operation Edelweiss		Aug  9, 1942	(Maikop/Tuapse)
35		Battle of Baku			Sep 18, 1942
36		Operation Uranus                Dec 12, 1942
37		Battle of Stalingrad III        Jan  6, 1943
38	+	Operation Herkules 		Mar  1, 1943	(Malta)
39	+	Tunisia Counterattack           Mar 12, 1943
40	+	Siege of Tobruk '43             Mar 21, 1943
41	+	Race to Sidi Barrani            Mar 26, 1943
42 BONUS+ 	Battle of Rhodes		Mar 28, 1943
43	+	Battle of El Alamein		Apr  1, 1943
44		Ambush at Siwa Oasis		Apr  4, 1943
45	+	Battle of Alexandria            Apr  8, 1943
46	+	Battle of Port Said		Apr 12, 1943
47		Steppe Blitz!                   Jul  8, 1943
48	+	Battle of the White Sea		Aug 20, 1943
49	+	Battle of Arkhangelsk		Aug 27, 1943
50		Battle of Novgorod '43          Oct  1, 1943
51	+	Siege of Leningrad              Dec  1, 1943
52 		Battle of Moscow                Mar 31, 1944
53	+	Drive to the Sea                Jun  6, 1944
54	+	St. Lo Counterattack            Jul 25, 1944
55	+	Battle of Cherbourg             Aug 22, 1944
56		Battle of Berlin                Sep  9, 1944
57		The Harz Pocket			Sep 12, 1944
58	+	Battle Viipuri '44		Sep 26, 1944
59		Operation Konrad	        Jan 18, 1945
60		Jassy-Kishinev Operation        Mar 15, 1945
61	+	Operation Seelöwe               May 10, 1945
62	+	Battle of London                Jun  1, 1945
63	+	Scapa Flow '45			Jun 23, 1945
64	+	Operation Green			Jul 12, 1945	(Dublin)
65	+	Invasion of Sweden		Aug 28, 1945
66	+	Battle of Terceira		Apr 21, 1946
67	+	Long Island Landing             Jun 26, 1946
68	+	New York, New York!             Jul  2, 1946
69		Battle of Petersburg		Jul 27,	1946
70	+	Landing at Charleston		Aug 16,	1946	
71	+	Battle of Brunswick 		Aug 20, 1946
72	+	French Antilles			Apr  2, 1947
73	+	Battle of Zanzibar		Jun 19,	1947
74	+	Cape of Good Hope		Jul  9, 1947	
75	+	Aloha Pearl Habor               Sep 11, 1947
76		Attack on Pearl Harbor		May  7, 1948 Japan attacks German fleet at Pearl Habor
77 BONUS+	Battle of Tarakan		Jun  2, 1948
78  	+	Invasion of Japan		Jun 26,	1948	
79   	+	Battle of Shanghai		Jul  7, 1948
80   	+	Seoul Showdown '48		Aug 22, 1948

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-12 17:34, Monday

@ Dimitris :howdy

I started working on the Athens/Corinth map. I want to work on it a little every day. It will be a great scenario. The player has to build a port and deploy the fleet either northwest or southeast of the Corinth Canal. (Don't know if we should allow small ships to pass the Canal?). I also found out that there was a WWII airfield in the southwest near Argos that was used by the allies as well as the Germans.
Chalcis is already done:

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Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-09-12 21:39, Monday

Canal has 24m width and depth 8m. For sure Bismarck could not cross canal but medium ships they could.
Pireaus is (and was) one of the biggest ports in mediterraen. Corinth also has (and had) a port but in 1940's was not big.
Tell me more about what you think about the port.

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Post by randowe » 2022-09-12 22:01, Monday

In the scenario i think the player will fly with the paratrooper engineers somehwere to the south and build a port to deploy the cruisers/battleships. I just checked my savegame and i had one Hipper and one Scharnhorst. Of course there need to be some greek ships at Salamis.
Only destroyers can cross the Corinth Canal.

I wanted to make:

1 port at Corinth
1 airfield and 1 port at Elefsina
2 ports on Salamis Island, west and east
1 port on Agina Island
2-3 ports at Pireaus (depends on the coastline/hex)
1 airfield at Megara
2 airfields north and south of Athens
1 airfield just northwest of Argos
And of course the 2 airfields that come from the other map. One shiftet into a more correct location.
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Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-09-13 04:44, Tuesday

I can' wait :cool :cool

I believe from Octomber i ll be back to the game.

PS There was a famous Greek sub "Papanikolis" that make a lot of damages to Axxis during the war.

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Post by randowe » 2022-09-13 19:08, Tuesday

Dimitris GR wrote:
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I believe from Octomber i ll be back to the game.

PS There was a famous Greek sub "Papanikolis" that make a lot of damages to Axxis during the war.
October will be fine. I think i will release the next update of the campaign with the first 17 scenarios and the new scenarios, Corinth/Athens and Operation Adlerangriff, some day in late October. So it makes sense to start playing the whole campaign from the beginning.

I think i will name the scenario "Battle of Greece". What do you think? I can add a named greek submarine leader to the scenario :cool

Here you can see today's progress. Due to the scale the Corinth Canal is only 3 hex long. I will add the bridges in the central hex. Looks best i guess.

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-09-13 21:16, Tuesday

I can't wait (lol, i said that again) to play the best campaign ever created from the beginning. :clap

PS I also like to play Major Heinz campaign, i see some progress but i believe it is better to wait until Major Heinz finish it.

(Something personal: It was hard for me to stay long time away from the game. As i am not 50 years old yet (April is not far away) i realise that OG is better than working :) \0

PS 2. Congratulations to German basketball team. It was better and i wish good luck.

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-14 10:30, Wednesday

Only very few people on this planet have the stamina to play 80 scenarios. It will be a more exclusive achievement than climbing Mount Everest :lol :lol
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-19 18:42, Monday

Dimitris :howdy Is there any particular village you want to have on the map? The naval base on the eastern side of Salamis had to be shifted a little bit to the north because there is not enough space. For the scenario i am thinking of a additional victory hex on Aegina Island for more paratrooper and naval action :yes Athens and the Islands are finished and it looks like this:

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-09-19 19:17, Monday

For sure Loutraki and Perahora in the mainland.
At Peloponese tell me when you are ready, there are a lot of villages, but only a few of them will be important.
If you have a big picture of the map that you use to take info, i can tell you some villages.

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-19 19:29, Monday

I will send you an email with the map picture and mapx file. Although it is under construction you can load it like a regular mapx in Suite. The mapx is basically empty but i already added all names of all villages, cities and airfields that are on the map. Perahora is missing, but i will add it next time i work on the map :cool

[EDIT: Sorry, i misunderstood :bonk I just sent another mail :howdy ]
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-09-21 19:07, Wednesday

:howdy I continue my work on the map and btw this is how it looks if your merge the Thermopylae map with the new one:
(Maybe one day in the future :ihope someone expands these maps to the east so you can sail your ships around Attica.)


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Post by Wonderdoctor » 2022-09-21 20:17, Wednesday

Do you mind if I take your Ostend map and add some swampland to make a new Ostend 1918 map?
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Post by randowe » 2022-09-21 21:39, Wednesday

Wonderdoctor wrote:
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Do you mind if I take your Ostend map and add some swampland to make a new Ostend 1918 map?
Of course you can take it! :howdy It's a mod of your Yzer map anyway :yes
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Post by Wonderdoctor » 2022-09-22 07:29, Thursday

randowe wrote:
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Do you mind if I take your Ostend map and add some swampland to make a new Ostend 1918 map?
Of course you can take it! :howdy It's a mod of your Yzer map anyway :yes
Thank you!
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Post by randowe » 2022-10-15 13:52, Saturday

Next to other new icons, i started to update the motorcycle units in my efile and created some more motorcycle icons. The motorcycle recon with 2 motorcycles will be all new. So i can diversify the 3 different units in a more logical and easy to recognize way:


Motorcycle Transport ---------------------- Motorcycle Recon --------------------------- Motorcycle Infantry

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:huh Does anyone use one or more of my icons already? Does anyone use the iconpack download? Would be interesting to know :nods
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Post by Parabellum » 2022-10-15 21:42, Saturday

All look very nice. Good work :cool
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Post by randowe » 2022-10-15 22:03, Saturday

To be clear, the left and right icons already exist. I just created the central one out of the other two. Nothing is really new. It basically never is. Almost every icon is a more or less modified version of an existing one. It's just the concept of 3 different motorcycle icons that is new.
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-10-30 12:31, Sunday

:bullhorn
Updated efile with many new units and icons and the updated Weltkrieg campaign with the first 20 scenarios is uploaded to dropbox.
You will find the link in the first post.
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Post by Parabellum » 2022-11-01 10:27, Tuesday

:howdy Clemens,
i downloaded the latest version of OG and your e-file over the weekend and started playing the Atomic Weltkrieg campaign. The first scenarios are finished. In the next few days I will start with my AAR.
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Post by randowe » 2022-11-01 11:44, Tuesday

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:howdy Clemens,
i downloaded the latest version of OG and your e-file over the weekend and started playing the Atomic Weltkrieg campaign. The first scenarios are finished. In the next few days I will start with my AAR.
I am happy to hear that! :clap I hope you like the campaign. Looking forward to your AARs :howdy
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Post by Dimitris GR » 2022-11-08 20:15, Tuesday

If you put parachutes to all airborn units (eg AT or Flak) would be hard?

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Post by randowe » 2022-11-08 20:33, Tuesday

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If you put parachutes to all airborn units (eg AT or Flak) would be hard?
It would not be very hard but i won't do it, sorry. You forget i am only one person :lol
And i have to work on the efile, work on the maps, work on the icons, work on the scenarios and campaigns.... i am no wizard :lol
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I know...... you are more than wizard, for sure you are Randowe the White (if you like LOTR)

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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by Parabellum » 2022-11-09 15:43, Wednesday

Subject Atomic Weltkrieg:
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I compared the AAR's of me and Dimitris and noticed that in several scenarios the VH and Map prestige differ. Dimitris' prestige is higher than mine in scenarios 2, 4, 5 and 9.
In scenario 6, Dimitris has 0 prestige and I have much more. But in scenario 6 (Narvik 2) there are no VH's or flags to conquer, only to defend. Therefore I think that the 0 prestige in Dimitris run is correct.

How can there be such differences?

The turn prestige is the same in both AAR's so far.

Edit:
One more question: I am planning to expand the numbers of the navy - how many deployment hexes at sea can I expect on average for the navy only (not including ground troops that are to go ashore)?
Completed CCs: 1x4, 2x5, 3x3, 4, 5x3, 6, 7x2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17x2, 18x3, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56x3, 57, 58, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67x2, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72x2, 73, 74, 75x2, 76x5, MTC I
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Re: ATOMIC Efile [see 1st post]

Post by randowe » 2022-11-09 16:57, Wednesday

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Subject Atomic Weltkrieg:
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I compared the AAR's of me and Dimitris and noticed that in several scenarios the VH and Map prestige differ. Dimitris' prestige is higher than mine in scenarios 2, 4, 5 and 9.
In scenario 6, Dimitris has 0 prestige and I have much more. But in scenario 6 (Narvik 2) there are no VH's or flags to conquer, only to defend. Therefore I think that the 0 prestige in Dimitris run is correct.

How can there be such differences?
I have no idea :huh

For example in scenario number 5, Narvik I, i have shown 220 VH prestige and you and Dimitris have 260. In Suite is shown 240 + 20 for a airfield VH, so 260 should be correct. Then why it shows only 220 for me?
But at the same time you have all map prestige 680 and Dimitris has 740 and i have only 460.
In the next scenario, Narvik II, we have 0 and you have 380 VH and 600 all map prestige which is the exact number of prestige the AI can capture :huh

But after 9 scenarios yours and Dimitris army value and prestige is almost equal (97pp difference), so there can not be a large difference, despite the numbers shown in the AARs. I am 900pp behind because i got less TVs. So these numbers seem to be okay.

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Edit:
One more question: I am planning to expand the numbers of the navy - how many deployment hexes at sea can I expect on average for the navy only (not including ground troops that are to go ashore)?
In Dunkirk you have 5 deployment hex at sea. Later you have in most scenarios unlimited deployment at sea and/or a port SH.
But you always can build a port and deploy more ships. Even at Dunkirk. Sometimes you must build a port if you want to deploy your ships, like at Thermopylae.
There are scenarios Like Odessa or Taganrog were you have 10 deployment hex at sea. Later in the campaign there are always enough deloyment hex or SHs
So yeah, i'd say, after Dunkirk you can expend your navy.

Same with paratroopers. In most scenarios you can deploy all paratroopers at sea or use 99 atp. But there will be scenarios like Stalingrad were you can maybe only use 1 or 2 atp. Since Stalingrad should be a brutal ground battle without fancy paratroopers :lol
There should be some variation between scenarios to make the campaign more interesting.
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Post by Parabellum » 2022-11-09 17:11, Wednesday

Thanks for the answer. I have to think especially about your hint to build own ports and also have the right units for that. All right.
Incidentally, so far in the campaign I have not built an airfield and improvised with those available on the map. Let's see how long I can keep this up.
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Post by Parabellum » 2022-11-09 17:48, Wednesday

Again to the Kriegsmarine: Why is the "Lützow" on Can't Buy? I wanted to buy the "Deutschland" and later upgrade it to the "Lützow" ...
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Post by randowe » 2022-11-09 18:13, Wednesday

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Again to the Kriegsmarine: Why is the "Lützow" on Can't Buy? I wanted to buy the "Deutschland" and later upgrade it to the "Lützow" ...
The Lützow is a remnant of the Basekorp efile where it is available in 1933 already.
But the real Lützow was launched in 1939, but never finished and sold to the USSR in 1940.
I didn't know what to do with this ship and set it on no buy :dunno

EDIT: The other thing is, why should Lützow have better numbers than Hipper? They were identical, no?
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Post by Parabellum » 2022-11-09 21:03, Wednesday

I had looked up Capital ships in the e-file via suite and discovered 1+ for the Lützow in the artillery range that interested me. However, I had overlooked the "No Buy".
My intuition was to buy the "Deutschland" early and convert her to the Lützow later. Both ships have the same price. Such updates interest me, if you can get better material for the same price - then I also like to invest in expensive units early (the "Deutschland" is more expensive than the "Hipper", which you like to play with).

Otherwise you are right . According to the German wiki the main armament of the ships is the same. There are differences in engine power, the number of mines and torpedoes carried, and the aircraft on board. But maybe this information has just been forgotten.
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Post by randowe » 2022-11-09 22:58, Wednesday

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I had looked up Capital ships in the e-file via suite and discovered 1+ for the Lützow in the artillery range that interested me. However, I had overlooked the "No Buy".
My intuition was to buy the "Deutschland" early and convert her to the Lützow later. Both ships have the same price. Such updates interest me, if you can get better material for the same price - then I also like to invest in expensive units early (the "Deutschland" is more expensive than the "Hipper", which you like to play with).

Otherwise you are right . According to the German wiki the main armament of the ships is the same. There are differences in engine power, the number of mines and torpedoes carried, and the aircraft on board. But maybe this information has just been forgotten.
The power is greater but the speed is 1km/h slower at wikipedia. Probably becuase the ship is listed 5 meters longer. And torpedos can not be modelled very good in the game. Especially on a cruiser.
It also makes no sense that the range is greater than for Hipper when the guns are the same.
I guess Lützow is one of the units that a designer can deploy in a scenario or gift to the player to have some cool core unit that is otherwise not available.
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Post by randowe » 2022-11-22 15:39, Tuesday

I created a ATOMIC efile discord server, so you can pm me there or chat with me and other users. If you want to join, you'll find the invitation link in the first post :deal
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Post by randowe » 2022-11-26 14:45, Saturday

Hello everyone :howdy

Efile has been updated. New version: 25th November 2022.

The Weltkrieg campaign has been updated and some new units and icons have been added to the efile. There are already around 477 icons in the equipicons now.
Most importantly, for the people playing Weltkrieg, there are 2 early german nightfighters (all-weather) now, the halftrack healer upgrade and Dimitris' mountain AT. Link to Dropbox download in first post. Have fun!

And don't be afraid, join the Discord! Link also in first post.
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Post by jfk2 » 2022-12-09 15:58, Friday

I will never finish the campaign Weltkrieg :banana :banana
I download the update and start over :clap :clap

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I will never finish the campaign Weltkrieg :banana :banana
I download the update and start over :clap :clap
:howdy I am happy you like the campaign!

When you play now, you don't have to restart. Like the latest update, i'll just release updates with more scenarios. I think there will be 3 more updates till the end of the campaign.
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Post by randowe » 2022-12-22 15:07, Thursday

Hello everyone :howdy

Efile has been updated. New version: 22nd December 2022.

The Weltkrieg campaign has been updated and you can play 18 additional scenarios.
There Efile got few new units and few new icons.

Link to Dropbox download in first post. Have fun! And merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by randowe » 2023-01-26 15:46, Thursday

Hello everyone :howdy Here is a little look into the future plans for the efile and campaigns.

- I think the efile is kind if finished. I might add some more units and icons, but basically i have reached the state that i wanted.
There are now 11500 units and is is getting harder to handle all of them in SUITE, as SUITE was never made to work with such a amount of units.

- Dimitris started to work on his first campaign and the first scenario is ready for playing :clap It is a fictional german camapign of combined arms and i think it will be a real monster since the player starts with more than 60 core units in the first scenario :monster
We use Discord for chatting and work on the campaign and if you want to join us, you'll find the link in the first post of this thread.
But of course we can chat about everything OG related too. Don't be afraid, join the Discord!

- The Weltkrieg campaign will be finished in 2 months or so. Only two USA maps are missing and both are enlarged version of my old maps and so it will not take long to finish the maps. I already started with one of them, the New Jersey map.

- My next campaign, after Weltkrieg, will be a grand allied campaign. The player will field all western allies, Poland, Brazil in around 40 scenarios.
The first 3/4 of the campaign should follow a historic path and the last quarter will start with Operation Unthinkable in Berlin and a war between the allied forces and the Soviet Union.
I will keep the style of the Weltkrieg campaign. That means no protos but proto choice, a healer unit, exp regression, only 3K maps and a combination of land/air and naval combat.

The campaign will be build around the available maps, but i also plan to create few new maps or enlarge existing ones.
What i need is a new map of the Mareth Line and Gabes in Tunisia. I also want to enlarge Arnhem and the Nordwind maps.
I also started working on a map of the Ruhr area 2 years ago and this campaign will ge me the push that needed to finish the map.
That's 4 new maps so far. I'll see what is needed beyond that but generally i don't wanto to make too many new maps, because that takes too long for one person.
Maybe northern Italy? We'll see :lol

There are only two suitable maps in the Pacific region, Pearl Harbor and Tarakan of the Dutch East Indies, but i would like to include them :huh
Here is a rough overview of the existing 3K maps i chose so far. For the fight angainst the Soviets i'll simply choose my favorite eastern Europe maps.

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Post by hoza » 2023-01-26 16:17, Thursday

Bravo :clap :clap :clap . I really wonder how you manage to do all this huge load of work. Do you have more than 24 hours a day :clap :huh :grumpy

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Post by randowe » 2023-01-26 16:24, Thursday

hoza wrote:
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Bravo :clap :clap :clap . I really wonder how you manage to do all this huge load of work. Do you have more than 24 hours a day :clap :huh :grumpy
Well, it is not so fast as it seems. I started the first playtest of the Weltkrieg campaign in August 2021. So i work on the campaign one and a half years already :thud :laugh
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Post by randowe » 2023-01-31 19:59, Tuesday

Okay, so i decided to create 6 new 3K maps for the grand allied campaign. Three maps will be entirely new and 3 will be bigger versions of existing maps. Hope to finish these maps by the end of the year :ihope

- Ruhrgebiet, Germany
- Mareth, Tunisia
- Nordwind/Strasbourg, France
- Arnhem, Netherlands
- Emilia-Romagna, Italy
- Liepaja. Latvia

If new 3K maps from other map makers :howdy emerge miraculously, i will be happy to use them as well :cool
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Post by Alberich » 2023-02-02 13:36, Thursday

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- Arnhem, Netherlands
Hello Randowe.
In all maps around Arnhem and Nijmegen, the terrain is definitely CLEAR. Shouldn't they be more polder and marshland?
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Post by randowe » 2023-02-02 13:57, Thursday

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Hello Randowe.
In all maps around Arnhem and Nijmegen, the terrain is definitely CLEAR. Shouldn't they be more polder and marshland?
As here: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0497/ ... 1606601728
Hello :howdy

I will keep everything as it is and just enlarge the map 1056. If i would have to change most of the terrain it would be easier to create a new from scratch. But that would take much longer.

Do you plan to use a Arnhem map?
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Post by Alberich » 2023-02-04 13:29, Saturday

I see. As far as I know these polders made it very difficult to land gliders and other landing craft. And I heard that there were problems with radio communication during the whole operation among the airborne troops.

In my plans of campaign and mission for the future, the Arnhem map appears in my version of Blitzkrieg.

However, this year I would like to finish the Legion Condor campaign and in parallel develop (at least start) two others: Westrussische Krieg and Operation Suvorov taking place in 1955 depicting the Red Army invasion of the RK Moskowien.
Is there a possible option to later convert these campaigns to your efil?
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Post by randowe » 2023-02-04 14:32, Saturday

Alberich wrote:
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However, this year I would like to finish the Legion Condor campaign and in parallel develop (at least start) two others: Westrussische Krieg and Operation Suvorov taking place in 1955 depicting the Red Army invasion of the RK Moskowien.
Is there a possible option to later convert these campaigns to your efil?
There are no german units in the 1950s (apart from West and East Germany in the second half of the 50s). Generally i came to the conclusion that it would be better to have a dedicated cold war efile from 1950 till 1990.

My efile starts 1918 and ends 1959, and there are some logical stretches. For example:
The Me 262A1 has 4x30mm guns. The F-86 Sabre (nearly 10000 were build and i guess it was a good und successful plane) with 6x12.7mm MG and it was used by many air forces from 1949 until 1994.
So how the hell should one calculate the values of the planes, when the AA numbers of the Me 262 is so much better with 30mm guns :huh One projectile of the 30mm gun weights 330g!
Or AA be relatively low and the other numbers crazy high for the Sabre? And there are a lot such problems.

Nowadays i think the game is better used in more homogene periods of time, WW1 1900 - 1929; WW2 1930 - 1949; Cold War 1950 - 1989; Modern era 1990 - today. Personally i will now concentrate on WW2 era campaigns.
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Post by Alberich » 2023-02-04 15:55, Saturday

On the lack of German units from the 1950s and the use of the end-of-war units I have a justification. After winning the 2WW, the Reich is plunged into years of economic crisis and political marasmus at the same time forced to administer the vast conquered territories. The Wehrmacht is still a mass army so funds for new equipment are in deficit.

As for the example of the Me 262A1 and the F-86 Sabre, perhaps the best way to compare is by rate of fire and kinetic energy of the projectile? The informations are from wikipedia so I don't know if they can be believed.

Me 262A1
Kinetic energy of one projectile: 48 114 J (540 m/s, 0.33 kg)
Single salvo from all guns: 192 456 J
4 cannons with a rate of fire of 650 rounds per minute fire a total of : 125 096 400 J / min ( 2 117 016 J/s )

F-86 Sabre
Kinetic energy of one projectile: 18 084 (928 m/s, 0.042 kg)
Single salvo from all guns: 108 504 J
6 cannons with a rate of fire of 1200 rounds per minute fire a total of: 130 240 800 J/min ( 2 170 080 J/s )

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Post by randowe » 2023-02-04 16:42, Saturday

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What do you think about this?
A small and fast bullet may penetrate the target without much damage whereas a much more heavy and slower high-explosive projectile makes a lot more damage i guess. Maybe just one hit at the tail fin will kill the plane.
But at such a level of detail there would be much more things to be taken into consideration like visibility from cockpit, maneuverability, rate of climb, acceleration, power output of the engine at certain altitudes and so on. Some planes look good on paper but pilotes hated them for their difficult handling. But Open General is no simulation and we have to keep it simple.
In my opinion it would be better to have a dedicated Cold War efile where the Sabre competes with the MiG-15 and not with WW2 planes. That was just one example, there are many more.
When i started with the efile i was dreaming of an efile that goes from WW1 until late Cold War. But that is not possible. PG2/OG was never made for something like this.

When there are no new German units in the 50s, the player can never upgrade the core units because everything is there already? Even in 1948 or 1949 the German would have all these powerful prototypes.
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