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unofficial Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 17:14, Wednesday

To Generals Chris and Csaba: I accept your challenge.
And here it is, the only true :monster tank campaign ...

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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 17:16, Wednesday

OpenGen 0.92.0.0 * 30 Nov 2018 * AI: Default
Efile folder: C:\OpenGen 0.92.0.0\efile_cc18\ * Efile version: CC18-Ostfront 3.1 with Builders Paradise v1.02.11
Campaign: OSTFRONT, * Player prestige modifier 75% * AI prestige modifier 125%

Played Scenarios:
1 Brest-Litowsk , #0 , Tactical Victory , score:24
2 Angriff auf Kishinev , #1 , Tactical Victory , score:24
3 Shitomir , #2 , Tactical Victory , score:24
4 Gomel , #3 , Tactical Victory , score:24
5 Vitebsk , #4 , Tactical Victory , score:24
6 Novgorod , #5 , Tactical Victory , score:24
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Campaign score: 144 * Average: 24
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 18:59, Wednesday

1 Brest-Litowsk lttv (+39 kills by :monster )

OK, there aren't many ways to go wrong here. Csaba's idea of starting with an alternative tank near the western Soviet VH is brilliant. But there is a danger that the tank will have to fight without a leader for a long time.
I dared to try this, bought a Panzer IIIH and started a separate run. I was very lucky and the tank won a leader with the first bar. But that's all a different story ...
So I killed all the enemies with the :monster . The Air Force won two air victories.

Current scenario: Brest-Litowsk, VH prestige is 1230 , All map prestige is: 1380
Army cost: 1428 , Current prestige is 1889
Prestige available on map yet is 120 pp ( 120 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 17
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +1500, Angriff auf Kishinev , cap 3000, 8 turns prestige: 300
if V : +1500, Angriff auf Kishinev , cap 3000, 11 turns prestige: 412
if TV: +1500, Angriff auf Kishinev , cap 3000, 17 turns prestige: 637
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 637

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 0 bars , 30 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+30 exp]
* Bruckenpioniere , 108/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 55 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+55 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 305/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 26 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+26 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 53 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+53 exp]

Tank
* Pz IVC , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 3 bars , 351 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 39 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+351 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 68 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+68 exp]
* Pz IID , 303/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 28 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+28 exp]

Recon
* PSW 222 , 307/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 47 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+47 exp]
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 60 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:059 [+60 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 0 bars , 27 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+27 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 40 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:058 [+40 exp]

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 304/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 68 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+68 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 0 bars , 27 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:017 [+27 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 0 bars , 67 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:045 [+67 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 0 bars , 55 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:057 [+55 exp]

Fighter
* Bf-109B , 54 L4 Core , 0 bars , 78 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+78 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core , 0 bars , 44 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:056 [+44 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87B , 55 L4 Core , 1 bars , 163 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+163 exp]
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 137 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:060 [+137 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:25 TNK:3 RCN:1 AT:3 ATY:4 AD:3 FTR:2 Total: 41
Lost : Total: 0

BV 0
V 0
TV 1
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 164 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 41 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 447 exp, 39 kill, 0 pp Average: 149 exp, 13 kill, 0 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 107 exp, 0 kill, 180 pp Average: 54 exp, 0 kill, 90 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 67 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 34 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 217 exp, 0 kill, 816 pp Average: 54 exp, 0 kill, 204 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 122 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp Average: 61 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 300 exp, 0 kill, 432 pp Average: 150 exp, 0 kill, 216 pp
* Summary: * 19 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1424 exp, 41 kill, 1428 pp Average: 75 exp, 2 kill, 75 pp
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 19:25, Wednesday

2 Angriff auf Kishinev lttv (+45 kills by :monster )

I couldn't beat Chris's result and i needed a few tries to find the best route from north to south. In particular, the accumulation of Soviet units near the northern airfield was condensed with the auxiliary troops so that the :monster had short distances here. It took a lot of instinct so that no enemy must accidentally bite the grass.

Current scenario: Angriff auf Kishinev, VH prestige is 600 , All map prestige is: 960
Army cost: 1860 , Current prestige is 1560
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 19
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +1500, Shitomir , cap 3500, 12 turns prestige: 450
if V : +1500, Shitomir , cap 3500, 15 turns prestige: 562
if TV: +2000, Shitomir , cap 3500, 19 turns prestige: 712
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 712

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 0 bars , 51 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+21 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 71 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+16 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 305/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 33 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+7 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 119 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:012 [+66 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis, 5 bars , 622 exp , Germany , 13/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 84 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+271 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 93 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+25 exp]
* Pz IID , 303/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 99 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+71 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 97 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+50 exp]
PSW 231 , , 1 bars , 137 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:018 [+77 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 0 bars , 39 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+12 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 71 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:017 [+31 exp]

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 304/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 138 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+70 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 0 bars , 64 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+37 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 112 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+45 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 0 bars , 96 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+41 exp]

Fighter
* Me-109E3 , 54 L4 Core , 2 bars , 203 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+125 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core , 1 bars , 146 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+102 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87B , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 2 bars , 256 exp , Germany , 2/10 , All Weather Combat , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+93 exp] :banana
Me-110E , , 3 bars , 371 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+234 exp] :clap
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 101 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:052 [+101 exp]

Player 1 : Germany, Romania
Killed: INF:49 TNK:9 RCN:1 AT:7 ATY:15 AD:6 FTR:3 TB:1 Total: 91
Lost : INF:2 Total: 2

BV 0
V 0
TV 2
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 274 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp Average: 69 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
Tank * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 814 exp, 84 kill, 0 pp Average: 271 exp, 28 kill, 0 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 234 exp, 0 kill, 180 pp Average: 117 exp, 0 kill, 90 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 110 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp Average: 55 exp, 0 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 410 exp, 0 kill, 816 pp Average: 103 exp, 0 kill, 204 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 349 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp Average: 175 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 3 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 728 exp, 0 kill, 864 pp Average: 243 exp, 0 kill, 288 pp
* Summary: * 20 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2919 exp, 89 kill, 1860 pp Average: 146 exp, 4 kill, 93 pp
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Completed CCs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18x3,19, 20, 21, 26, 39, 41, 45, 46, 50, 51, 56, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76x2

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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 20:01, Wednesday

3 Shitomir lttv (+50 kills by :monster )

I played the scenario completely several times - each with different starting positions of the :monster . I start several times from my own western VH behind the river - but the result was not satisfactory. After that I started twice from the south. Only my second attempt was more successful here.
The start from the western VH had the advantage that the Luftwaffe can give support immediately. In the south, the Soviet air fleet immediately attacked my positions. That's why I bought an AD.

Current scenario: Shitomir, VH prestige is 720 , All map prestige is: 900
Army cost: 3672 , Current prestige is 579
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 17
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +1000, Gomel , cap 4000, 13 turns prestige: 195
if V : +1050, Gomel , cap 4000, 15 turns prestige: 225
if TV: +1260, Gomel , cap 4000, 17 turns prestige: 255
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 255

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 1 bars , 134 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+83 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core Cpt. Ale, 1 bars , 188 exp , Germany , 3/10 , Determined Defense , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+117 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 305/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 49 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+16 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 227 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012 [+108 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 913 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 134 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+291 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 170 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+77 exp]
* Pz IIIH , 303/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 174 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+75 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 1 bars , 133 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:108 [+133 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 131 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+34 exp]
PSW 231 , , 2 bars , 217 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 1 kill , 180 pp - U:018 [+80 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 1 bars , 115 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+76 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core , 0 bars , 90 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:017 [+19 exp]

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 304/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+49 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 106 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+42 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 176 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+64 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 1 bars , 156 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+60 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 0 bars , 79 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:109 [+79 exp]

Air Defense
37mm FlaK36 , , 0 bars , 35 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 132 pp - U:051 [+35 exp]

Fighter
* Me-109E3 , 54 L4 Core , 2 bars , 252 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+49 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core Cpt. Chris , 3 bars , 303 exp , Germany , 5/10 , All Weather Combat , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+157 exp] :banana

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87B , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 4 bars , 426 exp , Germany , 9/10 , All Weather Combat , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+170 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Urica , 5 bars , 507 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+136 exp]
Me-110E , , 2 bars , 261 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:020 [+160 exp]
Me-110E , , 0 bars , 27 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:022 [+27 exp]
Me-110E , , 0 bars , 23 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:027 [+23 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:84 TNK:14 RCN:3 AT:13 ATY:33 AD:9 FTR:5 TB:2 Total: 163
Lost : INF:6 ATY:1 Total: 7

BV 0
V 0
TV 3
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 598 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 150 exp, 2 kill, 0 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1390 exp, 137 kill, 408 pp Average: 348 exp, 34 kill, 102 pp
Recon * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 348 exp, 2 kill, 180 pp Average: 174 exp, 1 kill, 90 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 205 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp Average: 103 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 704 exp, 5 kill, 1224 pp Average: 141 exp, 1 kill, 245 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 35 exp, 0 kill, 132 pp Average: 35 exp, 0 kill, 132 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 555 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp Average: 278 exp, 4 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1244 exp, 1 kill, 1728 pp Average: 249 exp, 0 kill, 346 pp
* Summary: * 25 Units * 5 Leaders Total : 5079 exp, 159 kill, 3672 pp Average: 203 exp, 6 kill, 147 pp
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 20:26, Wednesday

4 Gomel lttv (+41 kills by :monster )

I also played this scenario completely several times. The first three to four turns until you reach the central airport are similar. Then you have to decide whether you want to go east or north-west. Where are more enemies to kill? I chose the route east twice and clearly missed Csaba's result. I speculated that the Russian SH in the east would spit out many Soviet reinforcements in addition to the three VH's when I had killed almost all opponents and only one VH was free. But nothing happened. Only a single 45 AT could be seen, nothing more. This is a very important difference from my run in 2018. Here I scored 43 kills. At the moment I don't see any chance of repeating or exceeding this result.

Current scenario: Gomel, VH prestige is 180 , All map prestige is: 1500
Army cost: 4980 , Current prestige is 951
Prestige available on map yet is 30 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 14
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +700, Vitebsk , cap 5000, 9 turns prestige: 135
if V : +1000, Vitebsk , cap 5000, 11 turns prestige: 165
if TV: +1200, Vitebsk , cap 5000, 14 turns prestige: 210
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 210

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 2 bars , 216 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+82 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core Cpt. Ale , 2 bars , 251 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Determined Defense , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+63 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 305/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 140 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+91 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 263 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012 [+36 exp]
Bruckenpioniere , Truck , , 0 bars , 19 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 276 pp - U:090 [+19 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 1166 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Aggressive Maneuver , 175 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+253 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 250 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+80 exp]
* Pz IIIH , 303/9 Pz Core Cpt. Wonderdoc , 2 bars , 264 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+90 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 213 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 4 kill , 408 pp - U:024 [+80 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 228 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+97 exp]
PSW 231 , , 2 bars , 287 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 180 pp - U:018 [+70 exp]
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 21 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:022 [+21 exp]
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 26 exp , Germany , 1/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:091 [+26 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 1 bars , 190 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+75 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 114 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 0 kill , 0 pp - U:017 [+24 exp]

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 304/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 254 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+67 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 156 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+50 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 2 bars , 239 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+63 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 1 bars , 187 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+31 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 126 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 408 pp - U:025 [+47 exp]

Air Defense
37mm FlaK36 , 251/1 , , 0 bars , 72 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 0 kill , 372 pp - U:023 [+37 exp]

Fighter
* Me-109E3 , 54 L4 Core Cpt. Lightning , 3 bars , 312 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Combat Support , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+60 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core Cpt. Chris , 3 bars , 393 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+90 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Ju-87B , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 5 bars , 548 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+122 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Urica , 5 bars , 642 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+135 exp]
Me-110E , , 4 bars , 427 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:020 [+166 exp]
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 121 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:021 [+94 exp]
Me-110E , , 0 bars , 45 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:027 [+45 exp]
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 108 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:028 [+108 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:125 TNK:17 RCN:4 AT:17 ATY:42 AD:11 FTR:7 TB:2 Total: 225
Lost : INF:6 ATY:1 Total: 7

BV 0
V 0
TV 4
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 889 exp, 13 kill, 276 pp Average: 178 exp, 3 kill, 55 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1893 exp, 184 kill, 408 pp Average: 473 exp, 46 kill, 102 pp
Recon * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 562 exp, 5 kill, 540 pp Average: 141 exp, 1 kill, 135 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 304 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp Average: 152 exp, 1 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 962 exp, 6 kill, 1224 pp Average: 192 exp, 1 kill, 245 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 72 exp, 0 kill, 372 pp Average: 72 exp, 0 kill, 372 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 705 exp, 9 kill, 0 pp Average: 353 exp, 5 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 6 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1891 exp, 3 kill, 2160 pp Average: 315 exp, 1 kill, 360 pp
* Summary: * 29 Units * 7 Leaders Total : 7278 exp, 221 kill, 4980 pp Average: 251 exp, 8 kill, 172 pp
++++ Panzerliga.de ++++ PG3D-Forum ++++
Completed CCs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18x3,19, 20, 21, 26, 39, 41, 45, 46, 50, 51, 56, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76x2

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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by lvjtn » 2019-12-25 22:25, Wednesday

Parabellum wrote:
2019-12-25 20:26, Wednesday
4 Gomel lttv (+41 kills by :monster )
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 1166 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Aggressive Maneuver , 175 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+253 exp]
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3 Shitomir lttv (+50 kills by :monster )
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* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 913 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 134 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+291 exp]
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not to meantion tanks can't get aggressive maneuver as a secondary (non-class related) leader for a long-long-long time
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-25 23:57, Wednesday

lvjtn wrote:
2019-12-25 22:25, Wednesday
Parabellum wrote:
2019-12-25 20:26, Wednesday
4 Gomel lttv (+41 kills by :monster )
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 1166 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Aggressive Maneuver , 175 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+253 exp]
vs.
Parabellum wrote:
2019-12-25 20:01, Wednesday
3 Shitomir lttv (+50 kills by :monster )
Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 913 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 134 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+291 exp]
:fused

not to meantion tanks can't get aggressive maneuver as a secondary (non-class related) leader for a long-long-long time
Oops, they caught me. I wanted to play the entire campaign with aggro maneuvers because I thought it would increase movement by 2. But I didn't notice that it didn't work, i.e. the :monster only played with 1x aggro maneuver and the second leadership was missing :banghead . I changed the setting starting from scenario 5 back to the originally planned property "Overwhelming Attack" (like Chris). I corrected this manually in the AARs and probably forgot about Gomel.
My mistake - my damage. With a fully functioning leader, a better result in scenario 1-4 would have been possible.
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by mythos » 2019-12-26 19:42, Thursday

lvjtn wrote:
2019-12-25 22:25, Wednesday
tanks can't get aggressive maneuver as a secondary (non-class related) leader for a long-long-long time
I don't have the save games anymore, but: during the past 2-3 years i still have seen a couple Aggro.Man. raising on tanks. Don't remember for times before that.
Either this change has been rolled back or was accidentally overwritten during an update at some point in time :dunno
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-27 00:54, Friday

5 Vitebsk lttv (+39 kills by :monster )

My :monster cleared the entire map north of the river. The Soviets received 1 INF reinforcement from the airport SH in the north-east.
I cleared the map south of the river with 2x AT, 2x ATY, 2 INF and a recon and with the support of the Luftwaffe.

Current scenario: Vitebsk, VH prestige is 660 , All map prestige is: 1140
Army cost: 4980 , Current prestige is 1012
Prestige available on map yet is 30 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 13
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +1000, Novgorod , cap 6500, 9 turns prestige: 135
if V : +1250, Novgorod , cap 6500, 10 turns prestige: 150
if TV: +1250, Novgorod , cap 6500, 13 turns prestige: 195
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 195

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 2 bars , 246 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+30 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core Cpt. Ale , 3 bars , 349 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Determined Defense , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+98 exp]
* Waffen SS , 251/1 , 305/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 165 exp , Germany , 2/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+25 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 314 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012 [+51 exp]
Bruckenpioniere , Truck , , 0 bars , 77 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 276 pp - U:028 [+58 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 1516 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 214 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+350 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 351 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+101 exp]
* Pz IIIH , 303/9 Pz Core Cpt. Wonderdoc , 3 bars , 302 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+38 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 258 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 4 kill , 408 pp - U:024 [+45 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 245 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+17 exp]
PSW 231 , , 2 bars , 287 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 180 pp - U:018
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 77 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:022 [+56 exp]
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 79 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 3 kill , 180 pp - U:029 [+53 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 2 bars , 239 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+49 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core Cpt. Mark , 2 bars , 201 exp , Germany , 4/10 , First Strike , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:017 [+87 exp]

Artillery
* 10.5 leFH18m , Truck , 304/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 291 exp , Germany , 12/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+37 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 192 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+36 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , Cpt. Blitzstoper , 3 bars , 309 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Shock Tactics , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+70 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 2 bars , 213 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+26 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 1 bars , 179 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:025 [+53 exp]

Air Defense
37mm FlaK36 , 251/1 , , 1 bars , 112 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 0 kill , 372 pp - U:023 [+40 exp]

Fighter
* Me-109E3 , 54 L4 Core Cpt. Lightning , 3 bars , 365 exp , Germany , 8/10 , Combat Support , 7 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+53 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core Cpt. Chris , 4 bars , 456 exp , Germany , 4/10 , All Weather Combat , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+63 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Do-217E , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 5 bars , 592 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+44 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Urica , 5 bars , 708 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+66 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Luis , 5 bars , 511 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:020 [+84 exp]
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 188 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:021 [+67 exp]
Me-110E , , 0 bars , 20 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:026 [+20 exp]
Me-110E , , 1 bars , 167 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:027 [+59 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:165 TNK:20 RCN:5 AT:18 ATY:54 AD:11 FTR:10 TB:2 Total: 285
Lost : INF:6 ATY:1 Total: 7

BV 0
V 0
TV 5
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1151 exp, 16 kill, 276 pp Average: 230 exp, 3 kill, 55 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 2427 exp, 225 kill, 408 pp Average: 607 exp, 56 kill, 102 pp
Recon * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 688 exp, 8 kill, 540 pp Average: 172 exp, 2 kill, 135 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 440 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 220 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1184 exp, 8 kill, 1224 pp Average: 237 exp, 2 kill, 245 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 112 exp, 0 kill, 372 pp Average: 112 exp, 0 kill, 372 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 821 exp, 12 kill, 0 pp Average: 411 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 6 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 2186 exp, 5 kill, 2160 pp Average: 364 exp, 1 kill, 360 pp
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-27 08:00, Friday

mythos wrote:
2019-12-26 19:42, Thursday
lvjtn wrote:
2019-12-25 22:25, Wednesday
tanks can't get aggressive maneuver as a secondary (non-class related) leader for a long-long-long time
I don't have the save games anymore, but: during the past 2-3 years i still have seen a couple Aggro.Man. raising on tanks. Don't remember for times before that.
Either this change has been rolled back or was accidentally overwritten during an update at some point in time :dunno
Chris, thank you for your good memories :yes . It shows me that my decision was not without foundation.
And Chris is right. I briefly searched JP's CC archive and found a run by Arathemis (CC1 from 2006). Here, a :tiger also received the leader I wanted.
http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 34#p504634
And there will certainly be other examples if you keep looking.

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Keighleyred (CC2 from 2007) http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 36#p533336
Sapper (CC3 from 2009) http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 86#p605486
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by lvjtn » 2019-12-27 19:46, Friday

Parabellum wrote:
2019-12-27 08:00, Friday
mythos wrote:
2019-12-26 19:42, Thursday
I don't have the save games anymore, but: during the past 2-3 years i still have seen a couple Aggro.Man. raising on tanks. Don't remember for times before that.
Either this change has been rolled back or was accidentally overwritten during an update at some point in time :dunno
Chris, thank you for your good memories :yes . It shows me that my decision was not without foundation.
And Chris is right. I briefly searched JP's CC archive and found a run by Arathemis (CC1 from 2006). Here, a :tiger also received the leader I wanted.
http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 34#p504634
And there will certainly be other examples if you keep looking.

Edit:
Keighleyred (CC2 from 2007) http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 36#p533336
Sapper (CC3 from 2009) http://www.panzercentral.com/forum/view ... 86#p605486
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1. Chris has not "good memories" but he made false allegation. aggressive maneuver was disabled for tanks as a secondary leader before sept. 2010 (i guess when new formats were raised), and i checked the changelogs, it was never rolled back, and there was no reported bug about it in the past 9-10 years
2. none of you can prove ANY savefile or aar showing aggr.man for a tank since 2010. maybe it was a predefined leader for an aux/p2 unit what Chris saw :dunno
3. all cited aars were made by pg2, not opengen and are older than 10 years (exactly what i said: this change was made long-long-long time ago)
4. it's actually irrelevant when thhis change was made. the much more important is that editing a leader (for any reason) in suite is allowed or does it compromise this challenge. i have my own answer
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by mythos » 2019-12-27 22:21, Friday

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Chris has not "good memories" but he made false allegation.
:fused care to elaborate, please ?
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by lvjtn » 2019-12-27 22:34, Friday

mythos wrote:
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:fused care to elaborate, please ?
i wrote a very long explanation with real proves and facts in the bug report thread

tl/dr: aggr.man as a secondary leader for tanks was banned not later than dec 2009
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by mythos » 2019-12-28 13:03, Saturday

You sometimes use a very false rhetoric Csaba :doh
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Re: Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-28 14:40, Saturday

I don't want us to argue. The mistake lies with me because I did not properly inform myself about the available leaders or because I also saved false memories that made the idea mature with the additional movement in me. The campaign was supposed to be fun, but I chose the wrong way to fix my mistake when I started the campaign.
I have invested a lot of time in the campaign and will not end it now because of this stupid mistake, but continue it unofficially. The goal is still: more than 1001 kills!
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Re: unofficial Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by randowe » 2019-12-28 15:03, Saturday

Maybe we can re-run CC18 as an official CC77 MONSTER TANK CHALLENGE next year after CC76 is done and dusted?
A official MTC with predefined rules on prestige levels, leaders, reloads, and stuff. The campaign is there so we just would have to discuss the rules.

Just an idea :dunno :cool :2cents

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Re: unofficial Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-28 22:43, Saturday

randowe wrote:
2019-12-28 15:03, Saturday
Maybe we can re-run CC18 as an official CC77 MONSTER TANK CHALLENGE next year after CC76 is done and dusted?
A official MTC with predefined rules on prestige levels, leaders, reloads, and stuff. The campaign is there so we just would have to discuss the rules.

Just an idea :dunno :cool :2cents
I think the idea is good and worthy of discussion because the goal of the campaign is completely different from getting as many BV's as possible as quickly as possible. This requires a complete rethink in the conduct of the war. The only question is whether the players are interested and willing to play.

In the meantime, I am demonstrating which results can be possible.

6 Novgorod ltbv (+58 kills by :monster )

My approach was similar to that of Csaba. However, my :monster also cleared the two eastern VH's including the airfield. Only then did he head south. I did not trust that enough Soviet reinforcements would arrive at the southern SH / VH to set a new record.

Current scenario: Novgorod, VH prestige is 540 , All map prestige is: 630
Army cost: 4548 , Current prestige is 1230
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 18
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +600, Volokolamsk , cap 6500, 14 turns prestige: 450
if V : +800, Volokolamsk , cap 6500, 16 turns prestige: 525
if TV: +1000, Volokolamsk , cap 6500, 18 turns prestige: 600
Ls: Loss , turn prestige: 600

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 2 bars , 257 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+11 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core Cpt. Ale , 3 bars , 398 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Determined Defense , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+49 exp]
* Waffen SS , 251/1 , 305/9 Pz Core , 1 bars , 165 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:011
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 314 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012
Bruckenpioniere , Truck , , 0 bars , 85 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 2 kill , 276 pp - U:028 [+8 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 2166 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 272 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+650 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 365 exp , Germany , 3/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+14 exp]
* Pz IIIH , 303/9 Pz Core Cpt. Wonderdoc , 3 bars , 346 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+44 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 272 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 408 pp - U:024 [+14 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 287 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+42 exp]
PSW 231 , , 3 bars , 309 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 2 kill , 180 pp - U:018 [+22 exp]
PSW 231 , , 0 bars , 79 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:022 [+2 exp]
PSW 231 , , 2 bars , 212 exp , Germany , 8/10 , 4 kill , 180 pp - U:029 [+133 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 3 bars , 321 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+82 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core Cpt. Mark , 2 bars , 201 exp , Germany , 10/10 , First Strike , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:017

Artillery
* 21cm M18 , 251/1 , 304/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 331 exp , Germany , 12/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+40 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , Cpt. Matze , 2 bars , 231 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+39 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , Cpt. Blitzstoper , 3 bars , 374 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Shock Tactics , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+65 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core , 2 bars , 289 exp , Germany , 11/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+76 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 2 bars , 220 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:025 [+41 exp]

Air Defense
37mm FlaK36 , 251/1 , , 1 bars , 147 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 372 pp - U:023 [+35 exp]

Fighter
* Me-109E3 , 54 L4 Core Cpt. Lightning , 4 bars , 409 exp , Germany , 9/10 , Combat Support , 8 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+44 exp]
* Me-109E3 , 56 L 4 Core Cpt. Chris , 5 bars , 518 exp , Germany , 5/10 , All Weather Combat , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+62 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Do-217E , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 5 bars , 650 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+58 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Urica , 5 bars , 764 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+56 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Luis , 5 bars , 619 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 2 kill , 432 pp - U:020 [+108 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Clemens , 3 bars , 304 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Aggressive Attack , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:021 [+116 exp]
Me-110E , , 2 bars , 282 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:027 [+115 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:201 TNK:25 RCN:5 AT:21 ATY:68 AD:16 FTR:12 TB:2 Total: 350
Lost : INF:6 ATY:1 Total: 7

BV 0
V 0
TV 6
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1219 exp, 17 kill, 276 pp Average: 244 exp, 3 kill, 55 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3149 exp, 285 kill, 408 pp Average: 787 exp, 71 kill, 102 pp
Recon * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 887 exp, 9 kill, 540 pp Average: 222 exp, 2 kill, 135 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 522 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 261 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1445 exp, 8 kill, 1224 pp Average: 289 exp, 2 kill, 245 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 147 exp, 1 kill, 372 pp Average: 147 exp, 1 kill, 372 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 927 exp, 13 kill, 0 pp Average: 464 exp, 7 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 4 Leaders Total : 2619 exp, 6 kill, 1728 pp Average: 524 exp, 1 kill, 346 pp
* Summary: * 28 Units * 12 Leaders Total : 10915 exp, 345 kill, 4548 pp Average: 390 exp, 12 kill, 162 pp
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Re: unofficial Monster Tank Challenge - Para's CC18 @75/125

Post by Parabellum » 2019-12-30 09:53, Monday

7 Volokolamsk lttv (+46 kills by :monster )

:phew , it was hard work to achieve Csaba's new record.
The opponent is distributed in small groups all over the map. It has a lot of SH / VH, but the AI is not ready to place reinforcements on everyone. If you conquer the SH / VH in the wrong order, then the reinforcement falls short of expectations and there are not enough opponents in the end on the map.

Current scenario: Volokolamsk, VH prestige is 540 , All map prestige is: 1080
Army cost: 4548 , Current prestige is 1730
Prestige available on map yet is 0 pp ( 0 pp in VH to capture) * Turn: 15
AI stance is Defensive
if BV: +700, Klin , cap 6500, 9 turns prestige: 202
if V : +900, Klin , cap 6500, 13 turns prestige: 292
if TV: +1000, Klin , cap 6500, 15 turns prestige: 337
if Ls: +1000, Attack on Stalingrad , cap 8000, 15 turns prestige: 337

Infantry
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 501 indep Pio Core , 2 bars , 269 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:005 [+12 exp]
* Sturmpioniere , 251/1 , 108/9 Pz Core Cpt. Ale , 4 bars , 448 exp , Germany , 5/10 , Determined Defense , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:006 [+50 exp]
* Waffen SS , 251/1 , 305/9 Pz Core , 2 bars , 237 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 2 kill , 0 pp - U:011 [+72 exp]
* Waffen SS , Truck , 306/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 334 exp , Germany , 5/10 , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:012 [+20 exp]
Bruckenpioniere , Truck , , 0 bars , 87 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 276 pp - U:027 [+2 exp]

Tank
* Pz IIIH , 301/9 Pz Core Cpt. Arathemis , 5 bars , 2682 exp , Germany , 15/10 , Overwhelming Attack , 318 kill , 0 pp - U:001 [+516 exp]
* Pz IIIG , 302/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 375 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:002 [+10 exp]
* Pz IIIH , 303/9 Pz Core Cpt. Wonderdoc , 3 bars , 389 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:003 [+43 exp]
Pz IIIH , , 2 bars , 289 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 408 pp - U:024 [+17 exp]

Recon
* PSW 231 , 307/9 Pz Core , 3 bars , 314 exp , Germany , 4/10 , 3 kill , 0 pp - U:004 [+27 exp]
PSW 231 , , 3 bars , 311 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 2 kill , 180 pp - U:018 [+2 exp]
PSW 231 , , 1 bars , 100 exp , Germany , 7/10 , 0 kill , 180 pp - U:022 [+21 exp]
PSW 231 , , 2 bars , 214 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 4 kill , 180 pp - U:028 [+2 exp]

Anti-tank
* StuG IIIB , 502 indep Stug Core , 3 bars , 337 exp , Germany , 9/10 , 5 kill , 0 pp - U:008 [+16 exp]
* 5cm PaK38 , 251/1 , 308/9 Pz Core Cpt. Mark , 2 bars , 215 exp , Germany , 9/10 , First Strike , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:017 [+14 exp]

Artillery
* 21cm M18 , 251/1 , 304/9 Pz Core , 4 bars , 419 exp , Germany , 12/10 , 1 kill , 0 pp - U:007 [+88 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , Cpt. Matze , 2 bars , 276 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Infiltration Tactics , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:013 [+45 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , Cpt. Blitzstoper , 4 bars , 419 exp , Germany , 4/10 , Shock Tactics , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:014 [+45 exp]
* 15 sFH18 , 251/1 , 503 indep sFH Core Cpt. Gixian, 3 bars , 364 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Influence , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:016 [+75 exp]
10.5 leFH18m , Truck , , 2 bars , 264 exp , Germany , 10/10 , 1 kill , 408 pp - U:025 [+44 exp]

Air Defense
37mm FlaK36 , 251/1 , , 1 bars , 167 exp , Germany , 6/10 , 1 kill , 372 pp - U:023 [+20 exp]

Fighter
* FW-190A , 54 L4 Core Cpt. Lightning , 4 bars , 427 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Combat Support , 10 kill , 0 pp - U:009 [+18 exp]
* FW-190A , 56 L 4 Core Cpt. Chris , 5 bars , 597 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 6 kill , 0 pp - U:015 [+79 exp]

Tactical Bomber
* Do-217E , 55 L4 Core Cpt. Csaba , 5 bars , 699 exp , Germany , 10/10 , All Weather Combat , 4 kill , 0 pp - U:010 [+49 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Urica , 5 bars , 787 exp , Germany , 6/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:019 [+23 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Luis , 5 bars , 661 exp , Germany , 10/10 , Reconnaissance Movement , 2 kill , 432 pp - U:020 [+42 exp]
Me-110E , Cpt. Clemens , 3 bars , 392 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Aggressive Attack , 1 kill , 432 pp - U:021 [+88 exp]
Me-110E , Major Heinz , 3 bars , 339 exp , Germany , 7/10 , Skilled Ground Attack , 0 kill , 432 pp - U:026 [+57 exp]

Player 1 : Germany
Killed: INF:229 TNK:30 RCN:5 AT:25 ATY:74 AD:20 FTR:14 TB:3 Total: 400
Lost : INF:6 ATY:2 Total: 8

BV 0
V 0
TV 7
L 0

Averages:
Infantry * 5 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 1375 exp, 17 kill, 276 pp Average: 275 exp, 3 kill, 55 pp
Tank * 4 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 3735 exp, 331 kill, 408 pp Average: 934 exp, 83 kill, 102 pp
Recon * 4 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 939 exp, 9 kill, 540 pp Average: 235 exp, 2 kill, 135 pp
Anti-tank * 2 Units * 1 Leaders Total : 552 exp, 6 kill, 0 pp Average: 276 exp, 3 kill, 0 pp
Artillery * 5 Units * 3 Leaders Total : 1742 exp, 8 kill, 1224 pp Average: 348 exp, 2 kill, 245 pp
Air Defense * 1 Units * 0 Leaders Total : 167 exp, 1 kill, 372 pp Average: 167 exp, 1 kill, 372 pp
Fighter * 2 Units * 2 Leaders Total : 1024 exp, 16 kill, 0 pp Average: 512 exp, 8 kill, 0 pp
Tactical Bomber * 5 Units * 5 Leaders Total : 2878 exp, 7 kill, 1728 pp Average: 576 exp, 1 kill, 346 pp
* Summary: * 28 Units * 14 Leaders Total : 12412 exp, 395 kill, 4548 pp Average: 443 exp, 14 kill, 162 pp
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Completed CCs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18x3,19, 20, 21, 26, 39, 41, 45, 46, 50, 51, 56, 59, 60x3, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76x2

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