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With the upcomming Hel map there will be 80 maps in the 3K collection. The English Channel from London till Amsterdam and Southern Ukraine are best covered by maps whereas other large areas have not a single map. North Afrika from Tunisia till Port Said is also well covered but it is not shown on the map. The map below gives an overview over most 3K maps (Most of the are in Europe). Of course it is not true to scale:

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So here is the plan for the near future. The next efile & campaigns updated is scheduled for January. It will contain the fully revised Blitzkrieg campaign and updated Weltkrieg campaign (Moscow scenario updated to big map). I think Dimitris will also have some scenarios of his Kriegsmarine campaign ready, so we'll include this as well. Then there will be the usual efile tweaks and some new units as always.

I also updated the map showing the 3K maps in the previous post. Albania and Moscow are new on the map.

My plans for next year are to revise and update the Weltkrieg campaign. I am also thinking about my next campaign, which will be about an German Infanterie-Divison. around 25 or 30 scenarios, only predefined 30 core units, no purchase, no protos. Horse-drawn artillery at the start. Time frame from Poland to Stalingrad.
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great plans eager for the new Blitzkrieg. Wonder who will be first me ending the Weltkrieg or you finishing the Blitzkrieg? :) :grumpy
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I have almost two months for two scenarios, so lets see :lol I'll also start with the Hel map soon. Don't know what i will finish first...
And i now have two jobs in the Lego forum :lol
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Hi -- apologies if this is noted elsewhere, but I did not find the information. I can't seem to find the Atomic Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg campaigns in my OpenGen game, despite downloading an extracting the files directly from the dropbox link on here. (They used to be simply *in* my OpenGen game, but they seem to have disappeared at some point in the last few weeks or months.)
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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-04 18:23, Thursday Hi -- apologies if this is noted elsewhere, but I did not find the information. I can't seem to find the Atomic Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg campaigns in my OpenGen game, despite downloading an extracting the files directly from the dropbox link on here. (They used to be simply *in* my OpenGen game, but they seem to have disappeared at some point in the last few weeks or months.)
Welcome to the forum :howdy

Once you downloaded the rar file from dropbox you just have to put the ATOMIC_EFILE folder from the rar into the game's main folder, where the other efiles are. Every efile has its own folder.
If there is already an old folder of the Atomic efile you can delete the old one (maybe keep savegames if you wish).
Then, in the game select the Atomic equipment file.
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Hi -- thanks for the response! I did just that, and the folder is in the right place. When I boot up OpenGen, I see all the Atomic campaigns *except* for the Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg ones (so, I do have access to the Allied Italian campaign, D-Day to Deutschland, etc).
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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-04 18:23, Thursday Hi -- apologies if this is noted elsewhere, but I did not find the information. I can't seem to find the Atomic Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg campaigns in my OpenGen game, despite downloading an extracting the files directly from the dropbox link on here. (They used to be simply *in* my OpenGen game, but they seem to have disappeared at some point in the last few weeks or months.)
Welcome to the forum :howdy

Once you downloaded the rar file from dropbox you just have to put the ATOMIC_EFILE folder from the rar into the game's main folder, where the other efiles are. Every efile has its own folder.
If there is already an old folder of the Atomic efile you can delete the old one (maybe keep savegames if you wish).
Then, in the game select the Atomic equipment file.
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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-04 19:40, Thursday Hi -- thanks for the response! I did just that, and the folder is in the right place. When I boot up OpenGen, I see all the Atomic campaigns *except* for the Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg ones (so, I do have access to the Allied Italian campaign, D-Day to Deutschland, etc).
I just downloaded and checked the files from dropbox again and everything works as it should be :huh

Do you see the correct folders and efile version at the start screen in the game? (Of course folder can vary in your setup.)

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I do, yes. This is the e-file information upon login:
https://ibb.co/3zDCc2s

And this is what I see on the campaign screen:
https://ibb.co/jzL8XqD
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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-04 19:40, Thursday Hi -- thanks for the response! I did just that, and the folder is in the right place. When I boot up OpenGen, I see all the Atomic campaigns *except* for the Blitzkrieg or Weltkrieg ones (so, I do have access to the Allied Italian campaign, D-Day to Deutschland, etc).
I just downloaded and checked the files from dropbox again and everything works as it should be :huh

Do you see the correct folders and efile version at the start screen in the game? (Of course folder can vary in your setup.)

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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-05 13:59, Friday I do, yes. This is the e-file information upon login:
https://ibb.co/3zDCc2s

And this is what I see on the campaign screen:
https://ibb.co/jzL8XqD
Please use the "Play Campaign" button at the bottom, then you will see them in the list :howdy

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That works! I probably should have tried that method! Sorry about that, but thanks for your help!
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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-05 13:59, Friday I do, yes. This is the e-file information upon login:
https://ibb.co/3zDCc2s

And this is what I see on the campaign screen:
https://ibb.co/jzL8XqD
Please use the "Play Campaign" button at the bottom, then you will see them in the list :howdy

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andrewmswift wrote: 2024-01-05 15:04, Friday That works! I probably should have tried that method! Sorry about that, but thanks for your help!
My pleasure! Have fun with the campaigns :cool
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Here you can see the path for my the next campaign. I was torn between the infantry division campaign and a general German eastern front campaign.
But eventually i decided for the eastern front campaign because this time i wanted something with protos. The path will be more in line with history, so no capturing of Moscow, Baku, Arkhangelsk or Leningrad.
Around 19 scenarios i'll pull from Weltkrieg and modify as needed. The other scenarios will be new and mostly on new maps. There will 30 scenarios in the first version of the campaign and next winter, once the Viazma map is finished, there will be two more scenarios, bringing the overall number of scenarios to 32. The campaign will end with the evacuation of the player's troops from the Kuban Bridgehead in 1943.

The path is as follows:

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1	Invasion of Poland I		01.09.39	1585
2	Invasion of Poland II		04.09.39	1585
3	Invasion of Poland III		08.09.39	1560 NEW
4	Operation München		02.07.41	1555
5	Battle of Narva			09.07.41	1556
6	Siege of Odessa			05.08.41	1498
7	Nikolaev Pocket			11.08.41	1571
8	Battle of Novgorod		14.08.41	1548
9	Invasion of Karelia		18.08.41	1540
10	Dniepr Crossing			07.09.41	1557
11	Battle of Dnipro		20.09.41	1588 NEW
12	Perekop	Breakthrough		24.09.41	1563
13	Battle of Melitopol		30.09.41	1507
(((14	Viazma Pocket			02.10.41	NEW)))
15	Battle of the Sea of Azov	09.10.41	1532
16	Attack on Taganrog		15.10.41	1533
17	Battle of Rostov I		17.10.41	1589
18	Attack on Kerch			04.11.41	1292
19	Battle of Rostov II		22.11.41	1075
20	Operation Trappenjagd		08.05.42	1292
21	Siege of Sevastopol		06.06.42	1561
22	Battle of Rostov III		19.07.42	1589
23	Battle of Stalingrad I		28.07.42	1562
24	Battle of Stalingrad II		02.08.42	1559
25	Operation Blücher		04.08.42	1448
26	Operation Edelweiss		10.08.42	1564
27	Operation Uranus		19.11.42	1534
28	Kuban Bridgehead		01.03.43	1448
(((29	Viazma: Panzerrollbahn 2	06.03.43	NEW)))
30	Operation Citadel		05.07.43	1529
31	Taganrog Pocket			28.08.43	1533
32	Operation Krimhild		15.09.43	1448
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New version of the efile has been uploaded to dropbox. You'll find the link in the first post of this thread.

Efile Version: 28th January 2024

- Kriegsmarine Campaign part I playable with 15 scenarios, by Dimitris :yes
- Atomic Weltkrieg campaign updated with a new Moscow map and scenario
- Atomic Blitzkrieg fully revised and tested
- Few new icons added to the efile
- New units added to the efile (i am most happy that i finaly found info about Portugal's transports (Now the only country missing with correct info is Norway)
- Shout-out to hoza for playtesting our campaigns :howdy
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Very nice! Should I restart the atomic blitzkrieg or it doesn't matter too much?

I'm currently in the first scenario with ships, in Norway probably. Looked scary so I went back to try to finish PG2 blitzkrieg and gather some courage.
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Szperacz wrote: 2024-01-29 14:19, Monday Very nice! Should I restart the atomic blitzkrieg or it doesn't matter too much?

I'm currently in the first scenario with ships, in Norway probably. Looked scary so I went back to try to finish PG2 blitzkrieg and gather some courage.
You can continue your run! The changes in Blitzkrieg are more of a technical nature and i think players won't notice them at all. All scenarios intros have also been updated.
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I failed at Narvik. Makes an impression of a puzzle with one solution (or I'm just too dense).
I'll check out Weltkrieg instead.
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Szperacz wrote: 2024-01-30 20:33, Tuesday I failed at Narvik. Makes an impression of a puzzle with one solution (or I'm just too dense).
I'll check out Weltkrieg instead.
Actually i try to avoid puzzle scenarios and every scenario should be winable with different core and tactics.
But, yeah, Weltkrieg is the much more modern and much better campaign :cool
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I put together a historic Soviet campaign path as counterpart of the German Eastern Front campaign.
It's something for 2025 though :lol There are 32 scenarios. But only 4 in 1942.

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1	German-Romanian Offensive 	02.07.41	1555
2	Siege of Odessa			05.08.41	1498
3	Nikolaev Pocket			12.08.41	1571	(Escape from pocket)
4	Melitopol Counterattack		30.09.41	1507
5	Evacuation of Odessa		01.10.41	1498
6	Siege of Sevastopol '41		11.11.41	1561
7	Battle of Rostov		22.11.41	1075
8	Kerch Landing Operation		26.12.41	1444	(Kertsch-Feodossijaer Operation)

9	Battle of Stalingrad I		28.07.42	1562
10	Battle of Stalingrad II		02.08.42	1559
11	Caucasus Defensive		10.08.42	1564
12	Operation Uranus		19.11.42	1534

13	3rd Battle of Charkov I		04.02.43	NEW
14	3rd Battle of Charkov II	07.03.43	NEW
15	Viazma: Panzerrollbahn 2	10.03.43	NEW
16	Operation Citadel		05.07.43	1529
17	Mius Offensive			17.07.43	1533	(Donbas strategic offensive)
18	Kuban Bridgehead		01.09.43	1448
19	Battle of the Dnieper I		20.09.43	1557	(Dnieper airborne operation)
20	Battle of the Dnieper II	25.09.43	NEW	(Dnipro)
21	Panther–Wotan Line		24.10.43	1507

22	Leningrad Offensive		14.01.44	935
23	Battle of Odessa		03.04.44	1498
24	Crimean Offensive I		08.04.44	1563
25	Crimean Offensive II		11.04.44	1292		
26	Siege of Sevastopol '44		05.05.44	1561
27	Vyborg Offensive		10.06.44	1540
28	Battle of Narva			09.07.44	1556
29	2nd Jassy–Kishinev		20.08.44	1555

30	Operation Konrad		01.01.45	1463
31	Pomeranian Offensive		01.03.45	1560
32	Battle of Berlin		16.04.45	1475			
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Started to convert 3 PBEM scenarios, so there is at least something to offer in this department. Kessler kindly allowed my to convert some of the Panzerliga scenarios. Dimitris and me already startet playing/testing the first one. The 3 scenarios will be:

- 1941 Battle of Moscow
- 1942 Battle of Tunis
- 1945 Battle of Tokyo
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Added a 3K map pack download link to the first post. The rar file has 286mb and contains 84 3K maps, all but 3 are 8-bit png maps.
One smaller map is also added that is needed to play the Weltkrieg campaign.
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So i restored all downloads. You can now download the newest versions of the efile + campaigns and the 3K map pack. You will find the links in the first post, also the link to the discord server.
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Weltkrieg has 80 scenarios now. I'd like to hear opinions if the campaign could/should be longer. Dimitris and I were talking about maps and campaigns and there will be 2 new maps for his planned Greek campaign. I could also use these maps and also some maps that are unused at the moment.
So would you like to play a even longer Weltkrieg campaign with 15 to 20 scenarios added, bringing the overall number to around 95 to 100 scenarios? What do you guys think?
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If you keep your quality than the longer the better :grumpy
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I realized that i don't have to change Weltkrieg :bonk There simply can be two version of the campaign! One version with 80 scenarios, as it is now, and another version with 20+ scenarios added. So i don't have to worry too much and can just keep adding maps and scenarios to the extended version :cool
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Another question. As a player, what do you prefer?

Classic campaign setting with all units having a base strength of 10 and the chance to get a prototype after a BV.

or

Campaign with curated prototypes that every player gets, no matter the victory rating. Also players can sometimes choose one proto out of a presented selection of 3 to 5 units. And the protos and some special units have have base strength of 11 or 12.
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:howdy
as a (oldie) my 1st thought was option 1
but recently retired and playing more different E-Files and campaigns either sounds good
i just like getting protos
like also lots of triggers like in CCC8
thanx for asking the players their opinion :clap :bow
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randowe wrote: 2024-10-02 15:12, Wednesday Another question. As a player, what do you prefer?

Classic campaign setting with all units having a base strength of 10 and the chance to get a prototype after a BV.

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Campaign with curated prototypes that every player gets, no matter the victory rating. Also players can sometimes choose one proto out of a presented selection of 3 to 5 units. And the protos and some special units have have base strength of 11 or 12.
I am happy with the first option - the unpredictability with the joy of getting a good one is nice (or being slightly disappointed getting a bad one - followed by thinking how to best use it.
The second one sounds interesting and more historical. But does it take away from the replayability of a campaign?
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My opinion was always: the less luck, the best game. When i played "old" campaigns, the proto was the key to make easy or hard a campaign.
So after many campaigns of randowe campaigns, i still say no to proto.
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I will take it as it is made :grumpy :)
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Wonderdoctor wrote: 2024-10-02 20:56, Wednesday But does it take away from the replayability of a campaign?
Personally I don't think so. You can get some really special units that would not be available to the player later in the game (like most protos). Although for example in the Weltkrieg campaign there are only 3 proto choices while the players also gets a handfull of protos directly.

Also i think that the proto choice screen is a nice addition to the game. Maybe not as fanzy as commercial games would have, but still something new for most players. This is how it looks. The player can choose between four units. Additional info is revealed when klicking on the flags. Three of the four units would not be available as prototype.

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randowe wrote: 2024-10-03 14:57, Thursday
Wonderdoctor wrote: 2024-10-02 20:56, Wednesday But does it take away from the replayability of a campaign?
Personally I don't think so. You can get some really special units that would not be available to the player later in the game (like most protos). Although for example in the Weltkrieg campaign there are only 3 proto choices while the players also gets a handfull of protos directly.

Also i think that the proto choice screen is a nice addition to the game. Maybe not as fanzy as commercial games would have, but still something new for most players. This is how it looks. The player can choose between four units. Additional info is revealed when klicking on the flags. Three of the four units would not be available as prototype.

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It makes sense to me now. That would indeed be a nice addition to the game. :cool
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Give me the original, random prototypes are the better option.
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The question is, if the prototypes will really be random. People reload a lot....
For example, i never got 3 protos in a row in my whole life. Yet, other people constantly get them. Or even four in a row, five in a row,... ;)

Personally i like a thoughtfully curated campaign more than random protos. And i lean towards this option when it comes to new campaigns.

And when we talk only about the units; most protos can be bought later on, while in a curated campaign the player can get some special units that are not available even as prototypes.

At the end, it's a matter of taste and personal preferences. But thanks everyone for sharing your opinions :cool
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Just saw this discussion.. I would agree here, the protos are only 'half random' - you can reload after a BV until you receive a unit you like (or is most valuable to resell). Also, a scenario can get much easier with a strong proto compared to getting none at all.
So in my opinion it could be a nice variant to get a choice of preselected units instead of maybe a good one or none at all (and then decide whether to 'cheat' to get another one anyway) :2cents
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Thanks for sharing your opinion @PrinzMurmel :howdy

There is one more thing i'd like to add to the discussion. Weaker players or players who are new to the game might do not get a BV and so they have no chance of getting a proto while the veterans easily amass the protos. So a campaign may even become harder and harder until the new players give up on the game. I think it would be more fair if all players get the same number (and value) of protos.

In many campaigns new players get punished even more because they have no chance of getting a proto and get less prestige for a regular or tactical victory than for a BV while pro players march from BV to BV and even reload to get better and more protos. This disadvantage adds up with every scenario. (That's why in my campaigns you get the same after-scenario-prestige no matter the victory.)
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So here is the plan for the next 14 months until the end of 2025:

- finish Vyazma map (almost done, only roads are missing)
- create another map of Greece for Dimitris
- create new Kiev map
- design 1941-42 BARBAROSSA campaign with 25 scenarios. Most scenarios will be taken from Weltkrieg, but there will also be some new and exclusive maps/scenarios.
- update WELTKRIEG with around 10 more senarios and one more proto choice.
- maybe finish one of the maps that i have started long time ago and which i stopped at some point


- build more LEGO!

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Another change of plans :lol Must be the 1000th one :D

Since i can not add many more scenarios to Weltkrieg because of the technical limit, i will simply add 4 more scenarios to Weltkrieg and substitute the Adlerangriff air battle with another new scenario (I never like that scenario, so it will get deleted).
There will also be one more proto choice, where the player can choose between Italian and Romanian prototypes in 1943.

And since i don't have to wait until i finish potential future maps (I am tired of making maps alone and have very low energy for this task) i will start soon to update Weltkrieg and finalze the campaign once and for all :yes
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:howdy
randowe wrote: 2024-11-24 19:44, Sunday
...(I am tired of making maps alone and have very low energy for this task)...
You are the king of maps - the competition is far behind :secret

Do you need to have stimuli and adrenaline to make new maps? :belly

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Of course, take it as a joke
I appreciate your work and contribution to the development of OG
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sympatyk wrote: 2024-11-25 10:54, Monday :howdy
randowe wrote: 2024-11-24 19:44, Sunday
...(I am tired of making maps alone and have very low energy for this task)...
You are the king of maps - the competition is far behind :secret

Do you need to have stimuli and adrenaline to make new maps? :belly

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Of course, take it as a joke
I appreciate your work and contribution to the development of OG
Haha, I hope I don't trick myself into making new maps for a while :D
I still struggle to finish the Vyazma map. Only the roads are missing and it took me some weeks to finaly start with adding roads. No painted mud roads, that was too exhausting :( Just copy/past standard roads. I hope i finish it by the end of the year :ihope
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If you want to have more scenarios to play you can reduce your choice/prototype scenarios.
Currently you use a choice scenario and 3 or 4 scenarios for protos. This can be achieved with one scenario by doing it th "old way" like I did in AAW campaign.
One map with different hexes taking different paths but your hexes can be trigger hexes giving specific proto's and going to the same path.
This could potentially free up 10 scenario slots.
It won't be as pretty as the current choice scenario but it does work :dunno
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Puma wrote: 2024-11-25 20:11, Monday If you want to have more scenarios to play you can reduce your choice/prototype scenarios.
Currently you use a choice scenario and 3 or 4 scenarios for protos. This can be achieved with one scenario by doing it th "old way" like I did in AAW campaign.
One map with different hexes taking different paths but your hexes can be trigger hexes giving specific proto's and going to the same path.
This could potentially free up 10 scenario slots.
It won't be as pretty as the current choice scenario but it does work :dunno
I know it's a bit excessive and eats up a lot of scenario slots, but i want something beautiful and special that no other campaign has to offer. I also imagine something like this would be done in an commercial game, where you head to the General's office, sit down at the desk and analyse the various documents presented and choose one of the prototypes for testing in the field.
Like in other war games, where you head to the hangar or locker room before a mission. Or you read documents about the latest torpedo development. Things like that. With nice graphics or animations.

It's okay and maybe a relief that i can not add scenarios indefinitely :lol
I'll add the aforementioned proto choice and scenarios to Weltkrieg and call it a day :yes
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